Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

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shes a nigger

No more than you

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Live interview with Charlie Kirk head of security on the Shawn Ryan show. The comments are almost universally against them.


Edit:
List of claims:

He's never been to Israel and that he isn't Israeli
Charlie never had doubts about risks in regards to Israel
Charlie was undying in his support of Israel
Nobody on the security team is possibly compromised because they know each other and each other kids too well
Their vetting process is "unparalleled"
He says there are a lot of different possibilities of risk, but the probable perpetrator is "the people that are shouting nasty things at him"
He claims that they were forced to have it there at the amphitheater and he didn't like it for the security risk
Charlie did like the location because it would have more random people show up


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About 50 minutes in, the interview gets weird. They're talking about the use of drones. He's describing Utah law as them not being allowed to fly drones. But the university/local law enforcement is allowed to do so, but they made a choice not to do so. He says that he has nothing good to say about them. And that his job is also to protect the reputation of his client.

Why doesn't he have any rancor for them towards that decision that might have saved Charlie's life?

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About 60 minutes in, he now throws the local police chief under the bus. He talks about the risk of that location (where eventually the shot had come from) and the chief responds with "I got you covered."



This reads as him allowing access to the roof. In the interview he says that this meant that the police chief would guard that area to prevent anything from happening from there. A very odd moment.

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More claims:

There was an autopsy done
Charlie had a pulse at the hospital
"Charlie was very cognizant of his health, and he was a strong guy... [..] you can be dead and if you have a strong heart... that's what the OR doctor told me"

 

[GlupShitto]

Charlie Kirk was one of the most effective and "palatable to normies" conservatives ... That's why he was killed, and that's doubly why the leftist demons are still celebrating his assassination.

Also, just putting this out there: I agree with Steven Crowder's blunt assessment of Candace Owens. She is an evil cunt. She's always been a total grifter, but this current grift is especially low, even for her. I currently have less respect for her than I do Nick Fuentes, lol.

I feel really, really bad for Erika Kirk. No matter what she does, she's under ridiculous public scrutiny. People are saying she's responsible for her husband's assassination because she took over TPUSA? TPUSA is literally her husband's legacy, and everyone knows that Charlie Kirk would have wanted his wife to take over, no question. If she had passed TPUSA to someone else, then people would be saying that she's disgracing her husband's wishes and legacy. If she speaks publicly with conviction and strength, then it's performative and fake ... If she spoke publicly being a crying mess, then she's unhinged and unable to lead TPUSA. If she's at home with her kids 24/7, people would have said she took her husband's money and ran ... If she's a working mom, then she's a negligent mother. I've heard people say it all, and it's ghoulish. Poor woman can't fucking win.

My take on Erika Kirk's "motives"? She and her husband knew the risks of his work, and had mapped out a plan together in the event of what ended up tragically happening. I see a woman who is doing everything she can to hold it together for the sake of a movement, for the sake of many employees, for the sake of her children, and for the sake of her murdered husband's legacy. If you are picking apart her every single move, then you are a low quality human. Plain and simple.

Fuck Candace Owens for what she's doing and what she's started in regards to the discourse of all of this.

I think Candace Owens is a blubbering retarded ape, but I also don't think this is some sort of grift. I think she's been spiraling since Charlie died and is desperate for his death to have been part of some huge conspiracy rather than him being knocked off by a random tranny lover.

 

[GlupShitto]

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Oh hey it's the crippled retard who was in Doctor Who. Frankly, somebody should shoot Russel T Davies for associating with a violent freak like him.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

she's been spiraling since Charlie died and is desperate for his death to have been part of some huge conspiracy rather than him being knocked off by a random tranny lover.

This explains her behavior a lot, actually. She isn't processing the grief of losing a friend, she's schizotunneling to find the assholes who "REALLY" killed her friend.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

In the months leading up to the assassination, Tyler was basically playing the role of carer to his barely functionally lover who, presumably, had begun to obsess over Charlie Kirk in the way that schizos do. The rest is obvious.

I think one important factor here is that anyone who've observed these troon / leftie spaces know that they love their histrionics and talk about "genocide" (that never seems to be coming). We know it's bullshit, they know it's bullshit, we know they don't actually believe in it, they know we don't believe in it. However, take a relatively sheltered kid and draw him into it? He might start believing in it and thinking it's actually serious, just like how plenty of men get drawn into BPD Pussy antics.

So I don't think it was a conscious manipulation to get Tyler to pull the trigger, but rather him actually taking what these people say as 110% serious when it's mostly just shit-talk.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Some articles I came across:

March 21, 2025: The New Yorker (Jay Caspian Kang): What Gavin Newsom’s Embarrassing Podcast Suggests About the Democratic Party (archive)

September 17, 2025: The New Yorker (Jay Caspian Kang): What the Video of Charlie Kirk’s Murder Might Do (archive)

October 3, 2025: The New Yorker (Jay Caspian Kang): Can the Democrats Take Free Speech Back from the Right? (archive)

 

[Lemmingwiser]

This explains her behavior a lot, actually. She isn't processing the grief of losing a friend, she's schizotunneling to find the assholes who "REALLY" killed her friend.

Obviously people think you're schizo when you say the french head of state's wife is actually a dude. People said the same about me when I said it about Michelle Obama on this site. And it's a very natural understandable reaction.

But then when you start looking at the evidence, like the video of birgitte macron sitting down, or the video of michelle obama dancing on ellen with testicles flopping against her pants, and you move to the next stage. You get a bit of doubt but say, okay but what does it matter.

It was a mic pack, it was just a strange moment that you're reading too much into.

And then you have the death of Joan Rivers after she said Michelle was transgender and the strange censorship of the video where she said it, or the the fact that Birgitte lost a court case against journalists that claimed she was her actually her brother jean-michel.

There is no doubt that Candace is not the smartest cookie in the jar. But she isn't a blubbering retard either. When she was fully believing the mainstream about trolls online, she wanted to start social autopsy, essentially a doxing site and got involved a bit with gamergate, but she quickly did figure out that gamergate wasn't what it was portrayed to be. She distanced herself from it quickly.

Eventually she started working for the daily wire and this gave her a lot of first hand experience what organized conservative jews were like and it left a bad taste in her mouth that she couldn't criticize anything about Israel.

She isn't the smartest, but I've yet to see her intentionally lie about something. And it's clear that others in TPUSA have been frequently lying, both about Charlie and about her.

What other conclusion could she come to? Genuinely asking.

You say she's trying to find meaning in it, but there is plenty of meaning to be found in a schizo trannyfucker killing him. So it wasn't a lack of meaning that moved her from one theory to the other.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Obviously people think you're schizo when you say the french head of state's wife is actually a dude. People said the same about me when I said it about Michelle Obama on this site. And it's a very natural understandable reaction.

I'm not implying that Candace is schizo for these beliefs, I am implying that she was hurt by the loss of her friend and instead of processing that grief, she is redirecting it into anger. Whether she is directing that anger at "the wrong target" or a conspiracy theory doesn't matter, my point is that she is letting her anger drive her to dig in to uncover the "truth" as she sees it. People become less rational when driven by emotion.

What other conclusion could she come to? Genuinely asking.

You say she's trying to find meaning in it, but there is plenty of meaning to be found in a schizo trannyfucker killing him. So it wasn't a lack of meaning that moved her from one theory to the other.

I did not say she is trying to find meaning in Charlie's death. I said she rejects the mainstream narrative that a schizotranny fucker (different than a schizo trannyfucker, the tranny is the schizo one) and believes it is someone else who caused the death of her friend. Under that logic, with grief turned to anger, she is digging to find what she believes is evidence that Israel killed Charlie. As I mentioned above, emotion-driven actions tend to ignore logic and rational thought in favor of what "feels" right in the circumstance because that anger will not be sated until she "uncovers who really did this" to her satisfaction.

For her, she sees it as a win-win. She gets to dive into a conspiracy topic she can cover on her shows while also feeling like she is working towards justice for Charlie. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt that she is not just using this opportunity to grift like a piece of shit and that she actually feels immense rage over the death of her friend, and it's clouding her judgement. This is more me psychoanalyzing Candace than discussing the merits of the conspiracy.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

For her, she sees it as a win-win. She gets to dive into a conspiracy topic she can cover on her shows while also feeling like she is working towards justice for Charlie. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt that she is not just using this opportunity to grift like a piece of shit and that she actually feels immense rage over the death of her friend, and it's clouding her judgement. This is more me psychoanalyzing Candace than discussing the merits of the conspiracy.

It's funny, she just did an interview reflecting on her motives right in the last 2 minutes:

( 1:05:32 if it doesn't take you to that moment automatically)

Here's what she says transcribed:

I'm not going to stop investigating this until we're told something that makes rational sense. You're not going to tell me like you do with Israel, that I'll get into heaven if I just ignore how Charlie Kirk was killed. We're not going to play that game. So, say something that makes sense or you'll have an enemy in me. If you didn't want people prying into this narrative maybe you shouldn't have executed him publicly. Maybe you should have pretended he choked on an egg, or something. Like you did with that rapper a while back when he started having questions about things. Not a good idea to get everyone emotionally invested the story and then tell them to shut off their emotions.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

When they mock Charlie they always say that this is just a "dark joke" so when ppl respond with the japanese that was raped they start crying and hyperventilating like they have any morals and justify it by saying that Charlie was racist while Japan and Japanese are extremely xenophobic and racist , I am not a fan of making fun of this poor girl but they better stick to their principles if they think this is just a joke and laugh at her too.

The issue with the "Umm dude this meme of Charlie Kirk getting his head blown open is just edgy humor dude don't you like edgy jokes?" is that they aren't even slightly joking. The memes are a celebration of his murder and when you're actively celebrating that it's not a joke anymore it's something you just believe. The leftists who post them believe if you openly speak thoughts they disagree with and deem "violent" you should be shot to death. It's not just a meme or an attempt at being shocking.

"Ermm okay but didn't you guys celebrate Floyd dying and meant it?" George Floyd was a career criminal drug addict who died resisting the police. Charlie Kirk was a family man, Christian and just overall good person. It's fine to think a piece of shit like Floyd dying was good. To celebrate a young fathers murder is just sick.

 

[GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG]

I bought a Freedom shirt for myself and my mother, and it's great to wear to piss off all the right people. I've gotten a lot of thumbs up about it too. Mine has a mural on the back "Great American Patriot" with his name. I wanted something more obvious.

 

[Big Lick]

The issue with the "Umm dude this meme of Charlie Kirk getting his head blown open is just edgy humor dude don't you like edgy jokes?" is that they aren't even slightly joking. The memes are a celebration of his murder and when you're actively celebrating that it's not a joke anymore it's something you just believe. The leftists who post them believe if you openly speak thoughts they disagree with and deem "violent" you should be shot to death. It's not just a meme or an attempt at being shocking.

"Ermm okay but didn't you guys celebrate Floyd dying and meant it?" George Floyd was a career criminal drug addict who died resisting the police. Charlie Kirk was a family man, Christian and just overall good person. It's fine to think a piece of shit like Floyd dying was good. To celebrate a young fathers murder is just sick.

Still seeing chumps parroting that it's ironic that Kirk was shot, accompanied with his quote about sacrifices for the 2nd Amendment. It's so painfully far from ironic that it shows either how stupid or how ignorant someone truly is. It would have been ironic if gun control measures were passed in honor of Kirk.

They really believe we should outlaw guns then no one would get shot, but sometimes it's good to shoot the guys on the other team.
Hypocritical with some cognitive dissonance

 

[Lemmingwiser]

1 of Rob McCoy sermons got privated. While it was being watched by a conspiracy minded lawyer who was streaming it.

This is the youtube url of the privated video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcwzWKk2Q0

The title of the one he was watching was "has god cast away its people"


There was another one gone from the playlist, but that one was removed by youtube for not meeting guidelins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6i_LiEDbQA

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

And to paraphrase Crowder, how interesting that conservative/right-leaning/centrist people have to protect themselves going to public spaces like colleges but the left doesn't need to. And you still don't hear of far-right extremists shooting up places despite MSM trying to propagandize them into doing it. Was talking to a friend yesterday and this got brought up briefly, and I told him the left is real mad that no one on the right rioted over Charlie's death. The only time someone on the right snapped and committed an actual hate crime was when some veteran shot up and burned down an LDS church near the end of September because of the false narrative the Mormons were behind the assassination due to the fact it happened in Utah, and even then that's still a weak thread to link and could've just been a terribly-timed coincidence. Also it's since gotten memory-holed because things got resolved on that end, although some LDS church attendance has dropped because there're members scared they could be next.

The reason the right doesn't just start shooting random people because random people don't have political power. Even after we won the Spanish Civil War due to the liberals and the communists trying to rip each others throats out along with the anarchists, we only shot all of the radical. Types. Even Hitler really didn't shoot that many people over political reasons. The centrists ultimately left alone. Communists, however, not so much.
The reason the right doesn't engage in petty terrorism because we ultimately realize it has no real effect unless it is done on a wide scale. We simply will use the left's inability to. Not go off a pan short against them. Hell, even Hitler was a master of doing this.

What I'm trying to say is if there was right wing terrorism, it would be very obvious. It would be very coordinated and surgical. And it wouldn't just be one or two people getting killed, it would be in the hundreds.


Most of the most pivotal political assassinations weren't done by skill. They were literally dumb luck. How Arch do you, Cran's Ferdinand, survive the initial assassination but went to the Police Department to complain where the guy got another shot at him? Quit it with the conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[Lucille Austero]

It's a few days old, but what do you guys think about the 73 times, a pair of Egyptian military planes, have been in the same location as Erika Kirk? Sorry if not the right thread. I searched Egypt, Egyptian and Plane, and didn't see anyone talking about this particular info. There is some earlier chat on these planes.

I find it quite odd. Candace Owens discusses it here. Initially Candace believed they were tracking Charlie, as they are in his known location 29 times. However now she believes they are tracking Erika.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQjCAsfoXEE

Any theory on why that might be, or is this easily debunked, eg could you pick any two planes and overlap them 20-70 times with people who travel a lot, over a few years?

 

[Lemmingwiser]

It's a few days old, but what do you guys think about the 73 times, a pair of Egyptian military planes, have been in the same location as Erika Kirk? Sorry if not the right thread. I searched Egypt, Egyptian and Plane, and didn't see anyone talking about this particular info. There is some earlier chat on these planes.

I find it quite odd. Candace Owens discusses it here. Initially Candace believed they were tracking Charlie, as they are in his known location 29 times. However now she believes they are tracking Erika.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQjCAsfoXEE

Any theory on why that might be, or is this easily debunked, eg could you pick any two planes and overlap them 20-70 times with people who travel a lot, over a few years?

Yeah it hasn't been covered in the thread yet.

I don't think Candace said the planes were tracking Erika, rather that they were in the same location. For example, she could be in communication with them. It's all rather speculative. What isn't speculative is that their movement is connected to US government in some way. Candace covered a government leaker about this and Coleman also followed up with some of the buildings that relate to it.


What's also clear now is that the security guy for CK lied and said that he couldn't fly a drone there, that it would have been illegal. Since it wasn't.

 

[Nimbat Out Of Hell]

Tim Pool brought up an article from earlier this week.

Video included for context. I'm not going to archive it because there's nothing notable about the video itself and if you've seen a Tim Pool video in the last four years, you've seen this one. I don't really watch Tim much anymore, but he's useful occasionally for pointing out something I might have not seen like in this case.

Onto the article itself:
"2News Investigates discovers possible missing evidence in Charlie Kirk murder case" - KUTV

The most notable part is right at the top of the article:

2News filed a public records request with the Washington County Sheriff's Office for video showing Robinson entering the Washington County Jail/holding area and video of Robinson in a holding room.

“We do not have any records responsive to this portion of the request, as Tyler Robinson did not go to or enter the jail area,” wrote a records officer with the Sheriff's Office. Holding room video was denied as part of the investigation.

A few weeks later, 2News reupped the request in a more generalized fashion, inquiring for “surveillance video showing Tyler Robinson walking into Washington County Sheriff’s Office.”

“Our office does not have any applicable records responsive to this request, as the surveillance footage is no longer available after the 30-day retention period,” wrote a records officer.

When asked if the video was shared with any law enforcement or legal agency, the department responded, “It is my understanding it was never sent out to any agency.”

If there is no video evidence of Tyler handing himself in, or at the Sheriff's Office/County Jail, and that evidence was not shared with the case prior to destruction, that is extremely concerning.

The latter half of the article is just retarded and about a lawyer saying that the case is "not a death penalty case" because of the weapon used, and that the charge is "clearly political". You don't hate lawyers enough.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

lmao

He was backstabbing candace earlier.

If there is no video evidence of Tyler handing himself in, or at the Sheriff's Office/County Jail, and that evidence was not shared with the case prior to destruction, that is extremely concerning.

Nothing to see here.