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check almost any of these “catholic charities” it’s Jews and Muslims running it while skin walking
Nah man, some of them are Christian/Catholic ran. It's a real issue that should be addressed, and trying to diminish it as not true doesn't really help. personally, i think they should have their 501(c) status revoked for this shit. that will sort it out quickly.

ETA: yeah, my bad you said as much after that post. I swear we've had this discussion like three times lol.
 
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If there are less bowns in the Middle East but in the west they pose no threat to Israel short term, and your leadership is short sighted and retarded.

Many of your politicians basically openly was as much
We literally have prominent Israelis saying that all the Gazans can be deported to the West. I'm sure there's some way for our resident JIDF minder to pilpul that fact to death.
 
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Nah man, some of them are Christian/Catholic ran. It's a real issue that should be addressed, and trying to diminish it as not true doesn't really help. personally, i think they should have their 501(c) status revoked for this shit. that will sort it out quickly.
I’m not diminishing it, these charities are funded by Christian’s but you look at the staff and it’s Somalis and reform Jews

We can walk and chew gum at the same time

We can put the vast majority of blame on the Catholic Church for actually funding it.

That doesn’t change the fact the staff lists of these charities I’ve literally never seen one without majority muzzles and steins and bergs as the actually rank and file grunts.

The real issue is the church and our government funding this, not the people staffing it, tho it is funny that these charities are like super minority Catholic at best

for actual like normal Americans staffing these orgs its usually Episcopalian, Methodist, preysbertarian filled with libtards whites

I’d call them Christian but most mainlines are agnostic at best
 
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If there are less bowns in the Middle East but in the west they pose no threat to Israel short term, and your leadership is short sighted and retarded.
Retarded. Most of them were Syrians who were no threat to Israel. Lebanese or Iraqis would have been a bigger threat.

The stupidest person can see an immediate problem with the plan but you're suggesting the Israelis who waited 16 years to attack Iran and set up the pager bombs are "short sighted".

We literally have prominent Israelis saying that all the Gazans can be deported to the West. I'm sure there's some way for our resident JIDF minder pilpul that fact to death.
Sarcastically saying that the Gazans should be deported to European nations like Ireland who simp for them isn't policy.

I think it’s more productive to have them shut down instead of sperging about who makes up the rank and file (they should all be prosecuted anyways).
It's impossible to shut them down without having Vatican lawyers ruining everything. Europe and America have a problem where freedom of religion lets you get away with almost anything.
 
That makes sense considering that Catholicism in America was and is built off of immigration.
Not really, the Irish and Italians sure, but Catholics in the US fought for Independence against the orders of Rome. The Carroll’s helped bankroll and get France involved, the Father of the Navy was an Irish Catholic, and a good amount of Valley Forge soldiers were Catholic. They were over represented compared to their population size. A few of them tried getting Quebec to join.

The issue is that Catholicism is an international and global movement. It also has individuals in it who use its reach and authority for their own ends. We have moral and ethical codes. Laity and clergy have different goals. The Pope can give his opinion, but honestly I have not been impressed with the opinion of clergy on a lot of modern issues.
 
Third world brown immigrants and "dual citizens" calling you a third worlder for not wanting to import third worlders or subsidize them overseas in their own third world shit holes is peak pilpul/taqiyya.
 
Retarded. Most of them were Syrians who were no threat to Israel. Lebanese or Iraqis would have been a bigger threat.

The stupidest person can see an immediate problem with the plan but you're suggesting the Israelis who waited 16 years to attack Iran and set up the pager bombs are "short sighted".


Sarcastically saying that the Gazans should be deported to European nations like Ireland who simp for them isn't policy.


It's impossible to shut them down without having Vatican lawyers ruining everything. Europe and America have a problem where freedom of religion lets you get away with almost anything.
Why don't you use your Jewish powers for good and import hot models instead of terrorists.
 
A silly little article from The Hill: "Democrats win momentum over GOP in shutdown fight" (archive).
As the shutdown fight stretches into its second week, the winds have shifted in favor of the Democrats — at least for the moment.

Early polls say voters are more likely to blame President Trump and the Republicans for the lengthy impasse. The president and his congressional allies are publicly at odds over compensation for furloughed workers. Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is sending mixed messages on whether to protect military pay. And prominent cracks are emerging in the GOP’s resistance to extending ObamaCare subsidies.

The combination has put Republican leaders on the defensive, even as they’re faulting Democrats for the long impasse. And the developments have boosted the Democrats’ confidence that they’ll be able to maintain their unified front, both in opposing the GOP’s short-term spending bill and demanding an extension of ObamaCare tax credits, which remains the issue at the center of the deadlock.


“Democrats have been consistent. Our position remains the same, we’ve been saying it for months,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday on the chamber floor. “Republicans are shutting down the government because they refuse to address the crisis in American health care.”

A short time later, Schumer joined 43 other Senate Democrats in opposing the Republicans’ continuing resolution (CR). The 54-45 tally fell shy of the 60 votes needed to defeat a filibuster, marking the sixth time the bill has failed in the upper chamber.

Two Democrats and one independent crossed the aisle to support the bill. But all three of those senators — John Fetterman (D-Pa.), Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) and Angus King, a Maine independent who caucuses with the Democrats — have supported the bill during the last five rounds of votes. The fact no new Democrats are defecting has denied GOP leaders any momentum they were hoping to generate with their strategy of bringing the legislation to the floor almost every day of the shutdown so far.

House Democrats, meanwhile, are taking long steps to highlight Johnson’s decision to cancel all House votes since two days before the shutdown began.

“Republicans love to advocate for more work requirements for poor people — people on SNAP, people on Medicaid,” Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) said. “Well, I’ve got an idea. Let’s have a work requirement for Republicans to show up to Congress and do your goddamn job.”

GOP leaders are just as confident as Democrats that they’re winning the fight. They haven’t budged from their position of refusing to negotiate on health care — or anything else — until Democrats help to reopen the government.

“The House is done. The ball is now in the Senate’s court,” Johnson said Wednesday during a press conference. “It does us no good to be here dithering on show votes.”

“I know this story’s getting old. You’re trying to find new angles, but it’s the same [thing] — the conversation will happen when we open up the government,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) echoed, adding that nothing has changed.

But there have been some shifts in recent days, and virtually all of them suggest Democrats have the upper hand, at least temporarily.

Public polls, although early, have consistently found voters blaming Republicans more than Democrats for the stalemate.

A YouGov poll conducted in the early days of the shutdown found that 45 percent of voters blame Trump and Republicans, versus 36 percent who hold Democrats responsible.

A new CBS survey released this week also found the gap to be 9 percentage points, with 39 percent of respondents holding Trump and Republicans to account, versus 30 percent who blame Democrats. Other polls have given Democrats a similar edge.

Republicans are also facing challenges surrounding Trump’s threat not to provide back pay to furloughed federal workers. Such compensation has been routine during shutdowns in the past, and Trump had signed a law in 2019 that seemed to codify the trend. But the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) this week cast new doubts on the automatic nature of the payments, saying the government is under no legal obligation to provide them — a message Trump amplified from the White House.

The news sparked a backlash from a number of congressional Republicans, who quickly pushed back in support of the back pay.

“It’s not up to the president,” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said Tuesday. “I mean, his opinion matters, but Congress has got to appropriate the money.

“Read the Constitution.”

As Democrats have dug in, Trump and others have signaled they may be adjusting their stance.

Despite officials saying last week that layoffs were “imminent” and Trump suggesting over the weekend they had already started, such job cuts have yet to come to fruition.

And Trump appeared to hedge on the OMB memo, saying Tuesday, “For the most part, we’re going to take care of our people.”

The fight over military pay is also creating headaches for GOP leaders. Johnson suggested Tuesday he might call the House back to Washington to vote on a stand-alone bill to ensure that military personnel won’t miss any shutdown paychecks, the first of which is due Oct. 15.

“I’m certainly open to that. We’ve done it in the past,” he said. “We want to make sure that our troops are paid.”

But Wednesday, the Speaker walked it back, saying that if Democrats want the troops to be paid, they should support the Republicans’ CR.

“Hakeem Jeffries and the House Democrats are clamoring to get back here and have another vote because some of them want to get on record and say they’re for paying the troops,” he said. “We already had that vote — it’s called the CR.”

Trump was asked Wednesday afternoon whether he would urge Congress to pass a stand-alone bill ensuring troops get paid during the shutdown. The president expressed support but indicated he was in no rush.

“Yeah, that probably will happen. We don’t have to worry about it yet. That’s a long time,” Trump said. “You know what one week is for me? An eternity. … Our military is always going to be taken care of.”

In the health care debate, Republicans are also sending mixed messages.

Conservatives are adamantly opposed to the extension of enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies at the heart of the shutdown debate, and GOP leaders say they won’t negotiate on the issue until the government is reopened. But some front-line GOP lawmakers facing tough reelection contests are pushing for a one-year extension of those tax credits, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a close Trump ally, is also pressing Republican leaders to address it urgently.

“The issues of the subsidies are real,” Greene told NewsNation on Tuesday. “It’s not something that anybody can say is made up.”

White House officials have been adamant that lawmakers must reopen the government, then discussions about health care can take place.

But Trump briefly scrambled that message on Monday when he appeared to open the door to talking with Democrats about health care. He later clarified on social media that he would have those talks after the government is reopened.

“I am happy to work with the Democrats on their Failed Healthcare Policies, or anything else, but first they must allow our Government to re-open,” he posted on Truth Social.

One source close to the White House acknowledged that if the shutdown drags on, concerns about the economy could drive Trump to want to make a deal. But the same source argued those outside the Beltway had to feel the pain of the shutdown, and that any issues with air traffic controller shortages or missed military payments could backfire on Democrats.
How many times are the Democrats going to use "polls" as their augurs and manufactured consent before realizing everyone's onto their shenanigans?
 
Third world brown immigrants "dual citizens" calling you a third worlder for not wanting to import third worlders or subsidize them overseas in their own third world shit holes is peak pilpul/taqiyya.
Good thing I never advocated for importing third worlders or subsidizing them.

That is a feature, not a bug
This only works with civilized religions. There's a reason why Islamic countries have their religious police that quickly get rid of heresies, rural Muslims create a version of Islam that doesn't work with civilization.

Look at the UK for example, they imported backwater Pakistanis and now they're having terrorist attack done by inbreds who follow an insane version of Islam.
 
Third world brown immigrants "dual citizens" calling you a third worlder for not wanting to import third worlders or subsidize them overseas in their own third world shit holes is peak pilpul/taqiyya.
didn’t even have the loyalty to not cheat on his green card wife (bro can’t help but dual loyalty max kek) for a beauty parlor radfem. but don’t worry bro He surely has our best interests in mind. He loves America.

I sure like taking my political advice from the cast of 90 day fiancé
 
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Good thing I never advocated for importing third worlders or subsidizing them.
I'm glad you're in favor of no more US govt spending going towards Israel. I'm happy we agree and that's all cleared up.

Now as I was saying Trump needs to send several billion to Orban so that we can finally occupy Transylvania and oust the gypsies.
Israel unfortunately might have to take in several million roma refugees however but diversity is their strength after all.
 
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