Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

[Meursault's gun]

And they've probably never watched a single one of Charlie's videos. Or if they have, it's only been short out-of-context clips within a video aimed at attacking Charlie from a creator they are ideologically aligned with.

Whether it's in context or out of it, the process you describe is the exact same. You can see in this video of Charlie debating a bunch of liberal students how context doesn't matter whatsoever to them (the abortion and tranny segments show this in particular).

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They are there to ask him to clarify things, to dismantle what they see as a thoroughly and intrinsically flawed and immoral worldview, but they can't move him one goddamn inch, because his stances are (for the most part) very consistent. They sneer at him, laugh at him, and mock him whenever they encounter positions that seem inherently false within their minds, and yet they can't knock down any of them. Making weird faces and sighing is all they can do at a certain point, because their own positions were installed without any real frameworks, so they just do the whole "oh, look at how inherently wrong this dude is, amirite guys?" dance.

The "context" is literally sitting there in front of them and it doesn't matter one bit. This idea that "if they only encountered the right information, they'd change their minds!" is so wonderfully optimistic but doesn't work whatsoever with people who have been conditioned to yearn to win off of bad faith arguments against those they deem to be ontologically evil.

The bottom line is they aren't arguing to learn, or be convinced, or really even to convince YOU that you are wrong. Any argument merely serves to make them feel more correct, moral, just, and empathetic because they can point at YOU and your beliefs to feel better about themselves and their own beliefs. Then never engage in a way that is constructive because they can't and critically don't want to.

This user said basically the same thing in different words, which I didn't see before I typed all of that out, but the video above is a good example of this happening live and without a crowd hyping Charlie up.

 

[Tin Foil Hatter]

We now know two known phenotypes and general psychological profiles for the Leftist.

White Leftists
-Dysgenic looking
-Constantly screeches about Trump or Right-wing with little op-sec
-Some kind of sexual pervert

Latino
-Waves a foreign flag
-Is in on the riot
-Committed more than one crime to be this afraid of getting deported. Most likely violent felony on top to not use the legal system.

That they happen to be wearing a proper uniform makes it easier to identify them on sight. The major weakness of the Right is its natural deference to due process. While Rittenhouse or Daniel Perry are American heroes, they were isolated by the legal system. Therefore, we must recognize the legal system is not a fair system and not subject heroes to it in the first place. First is basic on-the-ground opsec. What Antifa gets right is that they wear masks, therefore wearing masks foils most facial recognition systems. Second is I'm unaware of the Right-wing legal guild for people like Rittenhouse. I've heard of self-defense insurance, but I can't vouch for their ability to represent their clients. Therefore, having a proper legal infrastructure based solely around defending vigilantes is necessary. By corollary, we do know the National Lawyer's Guild wear green hats like commanders on the field. Therefore, sniping them will cause greater chaos than hitting one black shirt. To use a chess analogy, pawns are not inherently sacrificial, they simply need support from other pieces to be effective.

Here's the good news about PR wars v. Real wars. PR war never matters if you're winning the real war.

The leftists are the first to go AFTER a revolution, because they are parasites who serve nothing more than to destroy the host. Yuri Bezemov warned us on this. Now i am going to bring up Smedly Butler. They never teach people about Smedly Butler, A man with the stupidest name who saved this country from corporate fascism. A veteran of the banana wars. Yes, you read that correctly, Go ask chat gpt to tell you about that or even better find an older pre 1970s book on it. Anyway the cycle continues and the world refuses to change.

I think we are in the midst of a new business plot. things exploded after occupy wallstreet. 80 years after the business plot and during a significant downtime that generation of ruthless businessman realized that they have a chance to have their own business plot again, only there is an entire MIC and Trippel Canopy network to help them out. They broke occupy wallstreet up with troons and weaponized retards, and when they saw how successful it was they then proceeded to expand it out and use the communist tactics by funding the useful idiots to overthrow the system that tolerates the useful idiots. That's where we are at.

Now, we are NOT playing chess. WE are playing multi faction apoclypse where one wargames table is the troop movements, another is battle fleet gothic, and the third is normal 40k. Some of the other factions on the board have caught wind of what is going on and are trying to tip the outcome. Knocking out USAID really shifted things around and now youtube is admitting that the Biden admin forced them to censor channels. This is going to piss off alot more people.

Shits weird and i am going crazy trying to keep up with how weird it is.

 

[McMitch]

Democracy only cares about the next four years.

This is entirely because retards like you only ever focus on presidential elections, rather than have any involvement in politics on a level that actually impacts you.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Kirk's wife makes me angry. Telling people she forgives the man who just took her kid's father away disgusts me on a fundamental level. If someone ever kills your family member and you tell people you forgive them and to turn the other cheek they killed the wrong family member. Those kids are going to have to live without a father and you can bet when they grow up someone will bully them with footage of their Dad expiring. We live in a sick society where the response to a family member being killed is forgiveness instead of swift and brutal revenge.

Settle down. You're completely misinterpreting her words and the meaning behind them. As a Christian, her forgiveness is between her and God. It's releasing that anger you may have toward the one who wronged you and giving it to God. It has nothing to do with her forgoing justice, man. Many Christian's believe that justice for a capital offense is the state ending your life. She wasn't blowing off the crime, my dude.

The "context" is literally sitting there in front of them and it doesn't matter one bit. This idea that "if they only encountered the right information, they'd change their minds!" is so wonderfully optimistic but doesn't work whatsoever with people who have been conditioned to yearn to win off of bad faith arguments against those they deem to be ontologically evil.

The only time he appeared to not know something and get moved is when that Mason clown completely bricked "bimodal distribution." He asked Charlie if he knew of it (super condescendingly, I might add). Charlie acknowledged he was unfamiliar and I think said he'd look into it. Mason has no idea what it is, either, because if he did, he'd know how stupid he sounds.

Yeah, I've seen some of it but not examined it in depth. It's kind of crazy to think that so many of my opinions and values have been deliberately shaped by the media since my childhood.

I was just talking about this here.

This is entirely because retards like you only ever focus on presidential elections, rather than have any involvement in politics on a level that actually impacts you.

I am admittedly ignorant on this topic and I've been trying to change that. I wonder if there's a thread for us to get involved on local councils and/or school boards and such.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Settle down. You're completely misinterpreting her words and the meaning behind them. As a Christian, her forgiveness is between her and God. It's releasing that anger you may have toward the one who wronged you and giving it to God. It has nothing to do with her forgoing justice, man. Many Christian's believe that justice for a capital offense is the state ending your life. She wasn't blowing off the crime, my dude.

She knows how her words will be used and she said them.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Right, but you've failed to identify what's problematic about them. "I am unwilling to give this poor kid any satisfaction of hating him. He didn't cause me to lose my faith, my humanity, or my sense of justice. He strengthened them."

Sorry, what's the issue other than people misinterpreting it and spazzing? He'll still get the needle and it showed the insane difference between left and right.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Right, but you've failed to identify what's problematic about them. "I am unwilling to give this poor kid any satisfaction of hating him. He didn't cause me to lose my faith, my humanity, or my sense of justice. He strengthened them."

Sorry, what's the issue other than people misinterpreting it and spazzing? He'll still get the needle and it showed the insane difference between left and right.

It's not human and not justice. That's the problem. It's warped modern christian ideals that don't work in the real world and lead us to this point. Justice and humanity means cleaning up the scum, not letting them run riot and destroy everything.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

 

[The Dude]

The biggest flaw with autocracies is their haste creates waste. I would rather live under a system that's concerned with playing the long game and filtering out shitty policy than some retard that fervently insists on killing all the sparrows.

Anyone who holds up China of all places as an example of "how things should be done" is a fucking moron. The CCP's social engineering has absolutely fucked that country. Virtually all of China's water, including the ground water, is so polluted that it is unfit for any kind of human use, including bathing and washing dishes. They have buildings and infrastructure collapse so regularly that they had to make up a term for it "Tofu Dreg Construction". The One Child Policy ruined their birth rates for generations, to where there will soon be more elderly people who cannot work than there are young people working and caring for the elderly. Their economy is entirely fabricated by the CCP. They went all-in on manufacturing and real estate, and both those sectors are in free fall. There have been countless factories set on fire this year by disgruntled workers because the workers are not getting paid. The CCP has been responsible for more deaths through their incompetence, literally tens of millions of people, than the Nazi regime.

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

My partner

go back to reddit, faggot

 

[VMM_]

Will it be A.I.?

 

[The Dude]

They are there to ask him to clarify things, to dismantle what they see as a thoroughly and intrinsically flawed and immoral worldview, but they can't move him one goddamn inch, because his stances are (for the most part) very consistent. They sneer at him, laugh at him, and mock him whenever they encounter positions that seem inherently false within their minds, and yet they can't knock down any of them. Making weird faces and sighing is all they can do at a certain point, because their own positions were installed without any real frameworks, so they just do the whole "oh, look at how inherently wrong this dude is, amirite guys?" dance.

The "context" is literally sitting there in front of them and it doesn't matter one bit. This idea that "if they only encountered the right information, they'd change their minds!" is so wonderfully optimistic but doesn't work whatsoever with people who have been conditioned to yearn to win off of bad faith arguments against those they deem to be ontologically evil.

They couldn't shake Charlie, move him, or make him doubt his position because his position was based on truth and facts. His beliefs were the same that formed the foundation of our country and built our culture, so he knew that they work. He also knew that their beliefs were built on lies and were the cause of the corrosion of our society. They couldn't move him. They couldn't shake him. They couldn't beat him. They couldn't prove him wrong. So instead they murdered him.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

This is entirely because retards like you only ever focus on presidential elections, rather than have any involvement in politics on a level that actually impacts you.

I tried to get Newsom recalled.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

I had a dream last night. Charlie Kirk appeared in it, glorious, handsome and spectacular. Upon touching my bussy, I, through the new emissary of God, now bear the second coming of Jesus.

 

[babyDunk]

I had a dream last night. Charlie Kirk appeared in it, glorious, handsome and spectacular. Upon touching my bussy, I, through the new emissary of God, now bear the second coming of Jesus.

Meds, now!

In other news

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Meds, now!

You will not speak to the mother of the next messiah in such a manner.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Sorry but I don't think waiting around to be murdered is a good strategy. Caring that much about optics is cringe. Your life is a lot more valuable that the current jobs of a handful of lunatics.

Its not stand down and do nothing its called keep your nose clean, win hearts and minds and make your casualties martyrs.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I wonder if there's a thread for us to get involved on local councils and/or school boards and such.

Here's your thread: you do not need a message board thread to talk about [other people?] getting involved in local politics. Just go do it.

Literally find out when council and board meetings are and show up as a member of the public, so you can observe and learn how they work and what's coming up in your community. Get on the email lists/ show up for zoning meetings. Look for volunteer opportunities - there are often many around elections. If you like a local pol, volunteer to help them put out signs or whatever scrub volunteers do for politicians these days (but don't be the computer guy). Call or go to City Hall or the library and ask about opportunities and meetings and such.

You can also get more involved just by doing civic things for your community - when they're looking for volunteers to help remove some invasive weed that's spreading, go. Go to the police open house night. Talk to people, get curious, learn - and you'll likely find plenty of ways to do something good, be involved in your world, get to know people with local input/ influence, and potentially become one of those yourself.

 

[Perfectly Innocent]

As a Christian, her forgiveness is between her and God. It's releasing that anger you may have toward the one who wronged you and giving it to God.

It's warped modern christian ideals that don't work in the real world and lead us to this point. Justice and humanity means cleaning up the scum, not letting them run riot and destroy everything.

If she truly believes, then she knows the entity which wronged her is the god she worships, not the boy who shot Charlie Kirk, as everything which happened would be the will of the lord and saviour. Which means she knows that forgiveness towards the shooter is very much a meaningless gesture, so why bother with it at all, other than to play it up to the cameras?

 

[Welfare Bum]

Its not stand down and do nothing its called keep your nose clean, win hearts and minds and make your casualties martyrs.

Cuck warfare. Demographics has already decided that hearts and minds have nothing but contempt for you, and it will only get worse.