Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

[AnOminous]

It's smart. It's the same thing when Liberals tell you you should be more empathetic while also sticking a knife in your back.

We know what all that "empathy" bullshit means while blood is dripping off their filthy fucking faces while they devour their enemies.

 

[Lip Glossary]

We know what all that "empathy" bullshit means while blood is dripping off their filthy fucking faces while they devour their enemies.

Empathy to a tranny means " I should be able to do whatever I want with no fear of any repercussions, consequences, recompense for those we've hurt, accountability, blame or even being ignored by you"
However actual empathy which is what people who aren't nutters are asking for is their definition of fascism.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

For fuck's sake, dude, it's not a matter of not caring, it's a matter of people ACTIVELY CELEBRATING THE GUY BEING MURDERED IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE AND KIDS.

What the fuck is so hard about this to understand? Anyone who actively celebrates something like this (not just, not caring, but actively celebrating) the murder of a man in front of his wife and kids with a social media account with their real name on it deserves to lose their job for it.

And no, there will be no significant backlash from doing this, because nobody sympathizes with someone who murders another person over something so trivial, nor do they sympathize with people who dance on the grave of a man who's worst offense was publicly disagreeing with the left/liberals on something.

The left will always be disingenuous as fuck over this, because its always about the narrative to push then ever being truthful. If you're a professor, a public servant, a doctor, nurse, caregiver, or in any profession where people rely on you and you're out there gleefully cheering on the murder of what is the Ned Flanders of the right, then people have every right to be concerned on why you hold that position. What are you teaching our children? Will you sabotage my health when I'm at the hospital? Are you going to spit in my food? Ect ect.
And I think the worst is how they try and act like George Floyd is not a false equivalence. A man with a lengthy criminal record that spanned from the mid 90's up until his death in 2020. A man who along with 5 other criminals pretended to be water department workers, and proceeded to break into a woman's home and held her at gunpoint. Yet despite this, the Left tried to turn him into a messiah of peace, as if he was MLK/Gandi reincarnated. To where he had a mural painted for him half way across the world in Kabul, Afghanistan. And then proceeded to get people fired who were even remotely outspoken about the intent of BLM, the riots, or using Floyd of all people as a mascot for a cause.

 

[GhaeicSD]

Obviously Rachel Gilmore here isn't pro-charlie, but this is an incredibly tepid take to be front-and-center on a site called "Charlie's Murderers", regardless of if the site owners intended a logical order or not.

This is semi-unrelated to your analysis, but also probably the reason she's the first result on that list. Rachel Gilmore is one of the biggest, most vile, and most disingenuous cunts in all of Canadian politics and has actively pushed to ruin the lives of hundreds of Canadian conservatives on national television for simply being unhappy with Canada. As a result, there are people who have made it their mission to ruin her life in any way possible, which also resulted in her being doxed and losing her job (deserved). It was probably one of them who submitted her to that site since there were lots of Canadians in those circles who were discussing Charlie's assassination. Trust me when I say, regardless of how mild her posts were, she deserves it all and then some.

 

[SirThomasMaloryII]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5u-TtQo6slk
More dumbasses again

Gotta point out that in the first few seconds, he pulls up some page from somewhere that says "Transgender people ONLY make up 1% of the US population!!1!!1!"

Guess what faggot, that is still over 3 million people in the US.

 

[Lip Glossary]

not really, their overly sensitive HR Depts. are getting them fired, they created an entire ecosystem of behavior that they deem unacceptable and they themselves crossed it and now their own are cutting ties because they are legal liabilities in the worst cases or just breaking HR guidelines in the least.
If Leftoids didn't make speech akin to violence, this wouldn't even be possible, they are almost 100% to blame.

It's almost as if they made their bed, and now they have to lie in it.

 

[Yakubian_Insurgent]

Honestly, glad I stopped watching him. Not because I didn't like him but cause I got bored of his content overtime. Now I have the utmost just reason to officially "do not recommend this channel to me". I couldn't handle through five minutes, man.

Go back to whining about your country or something. He would probably be the type of European to accept immigrants flooding the streets of Europe.

He recently made a video about about the protests in the UK and he is the type of European that will gladly defend gang rapes commited by his new jeets overlords because "muh colonisation". I couldn't even watch 5 minutes because that fag was constatly bitching about Israel (in a video about the UK) and even talked about Spanish colonisation (In the first 5 minutes mind you). The consequences of wanting to be a Hasan Piker concubine.

 

[Molag Bal]

Would it? Which is more likely to resonate with, and be shared by, your conserva-boomer parents, evangelical relatives, suburban housewives, or normie-centrist coworkers?

I am sick of seeing people giving others room to rationalize things away. I am sick of people going full denial and pretending like the left is peaceful and the right is violent. They shouldn't have room to do that. For you, one Ukrainian woman gets murdered by niggers and it makes headlines on right-wing news outlets. In Europe, that's just Tuesday. It happens all the time and nobody cares.
So no, no more pictures of happy White families. No more enabling ostrich behaviour. The murders of White innocents and rightwingers need to be plastered everywhere. No tragedy can go unused, make both of them see the writing on the wall. They can't have any room to pretend like this isn't a war of extinction waged against them. They need to live in fear and know that no amount of running and hiding will save them.

Case in point this post. We're on what? Tranny shooting numero 7 or 8 within the span of two years and STILL, STILL people with a following are pretending like the tranny menace isn't a problem and can just do that without their own audience immediately turning on them.

 

[Rolex]

Will you sabotage my health when I'm at the hospital?

Scary to think that there are 100%, without a doubt, people who have died or were left with permanent disability from a lack of proper treatment due to their politics.

You may say we have no proof of that, but when we see untold tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of nurses, teachers, psychologists, etc. all actively happy, excited even, about the graphic murder of a bog standard young Christian republican who was, by all accounts, a decent and reasonable man, I'd say we have plenty of proof. It has absolutely happened, and probably at a scale we'd be horrified to learn of.

None of these people should be trusted to even put fries in a bag. Honestly they shouldn't even be here at all. Ship them to Gaza or India or something.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Scary to think that there are 100%, without a doubt, people who have died or left with permanent disability from a lack of proper treatment due to their politics.

You may say we have no proof of that, but when we see untold tens of thousands of nurses, teachers, psychologists, etc. all actively happy, excited even, about the graphic murder of a bog standard young Christian republican who was, by all accounts, a decent and reasonable man, I'd say we have plenty of proof. It has absolutely happened, and probably at a scale we'd be horrified to learn of.

None of these people should be trusted to even put fries in a bag. Honestly they shouldn't even be here at all. Ship them to Gaza or India or something.

During Covid plenty of nurses, doctors, talking heads on the news gleefully fantasized and joked about "unvaxed" people dying in the hospital and made up scenarios about them begging for the shot and all sorts of weird ideation.
anyone who DID die and was unvaxxed they shit over, this was the first big tell to the normies that Leftwing people do not tolerate any deviation, even when its simply "not" doing something.
the point is submission simple as that, everything else is pretext, they want you to SUBMIT, and they want you to do it under increasingly farcical lies, the more outlandish lie that you submit to them under, the more they enjoy it, and the more it breaks the submitter in the process.
With Kirk, the facade is dropped, they just want you dead if you don't submit, the PROBLEM the left has is that they still aren't capable of out and out violence in any real way, they spent too much time harvesting people afflicted with Slave-Morality to ever have a standing force capable of doing some Blackshirt shit.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I like the Dennis Hopper reading.
If.mp4

God, I miss when poetry - art - could be part of a national broadcast, part of common culture. Not ironically or comedically or to Make a Political Point, just a real actor reciting a real poem, hosted by a real musician. Two edgy and somewhat counter-cultural artists being serious about something beautiful, and both choosing and being allowed to choose to have quiet air for 8 minutes. ...and imagine: an audience not distractedly half-listening and multi-tasking, just paying attention and having a few minutes for quiet appreciation and even inspiration.

And I also love Michael Caine's recitation, as his voice is terrific for it. It was better just to listen, though, rather than watching the mountain imagery, because, to my point above, the poem doesn't need motivational photography that (while nice, sure) actually competes with the poem and removes that contemplative aspect of just hearing and honing in on the words.

 

[Taylor Laurenz-Southern]

apologies I haven't been keeping up, but i noticed a few libs online state emphatically that tyler robinson was right-wing.

i understand that this is just pure delusion, but what is the remaining steelman case for the killer being right wing at the point? seems like all the information available on him is pretty clear. is there some obscure piece of information that they're hanging everything on?

 

[DumbDude43]

apologies I haven't been keeping up, but i noticed a few libs online state emphatically that tyler robinson was right-wing.

i understand that this is just pure delusion, but what is the remaining steelman case for the killed being right wing at the point? seems like all the information available on him is pretty clear. is there some obscure piece of information that they're hanging everything on?

>he had conservative parents, that's right wing!
>he knows how to shoot a gun, that's right wing!
>he did a gun violence, that's right wing!

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

apologies I haven't been keeping up, but i noticed a few libs online state emphatically that tyler robinson was right-wing.

i understand that this is just pure delusion, but what is the remaining steelman case for the killed being right wing at the point? seems like all the information available on him is pretty clear. is there some obscure piece of information that they're hanging everything on?

It's just cope, but "he grew up MAGA and his grandma said he was MAGA (likely because she hasn't seen him in years) SO HE'S MAGA OK??"

The grandma testimony is the only thing they have, I believe.

 

[babyDunk]

steelman case for the killer being right wing at the point?

Their entire argument is this

1. He was raised in a conservative, christian household and has "MAGA Parents"
2. His grandma said "The family is conservative"
3. He wrote "If you are reading this, you are gay" on the bullet. That is homophobic.

That's it. That's what they have as evidence that renders the police reports,FBI analysis and evidence presented by the prosecution as wrong.

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

Apparently, there was a channel called The Comments Section.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

but what is the remaining steelman case for the killer being right wing at the point?

There is none, lmao.

They're coping for the fact that their narrative of the right being violent and evil, and the left being peaceful and good, is being disproven before normies' eyes.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

it's the same reason why to a lesser degree the Karens from the Evangelical right in the 2000s are the strongest proponents of cancel culture today; they aren't high enough to directly profit off of it but it gives them some kind of holier than thou platform to be "better" than other people.

This 1000%. The behaviors are the same it’s just whatever social-political force reigns supreme do they use as a bludgeon against others. They are flying monkeys helping to silence any dissent to whatever social norm is ascendant in their particular social milieu.

It’s just weird to see the type of women who wanted Ozzy Osborne banned in 1990’s now scream about protecting their queer neurodivergent kids from bigots and transphobes. I will at least say the older generation just told you you were going to hell and refused to socialize, today’s version tries to round up a lynch mob and wants to hurt and punish you for bad opinions.

All these women believe they are enforcing the correct societal norms of their day, whatever they may be. They are the hall monitors of society, many of whom are on social power trips or fearful of the mob turning on them.

It was just bizarre to me to see this flipped from right-wing conservative beliefs, to weird LGBTQ woke beliefs in one generation.

Charlie Kirk’s views to me seemed just like every normie Young Republican in the 1990’s. Calling him a Nazi and hate monger is deranged and just demonstrates the pendulum had gone way too far.

They wanted you to think CK was a dangerous gayeway drug to “hard stuff”

And that is emblematic of the left itself. Same shit on a larger scale. As for how we reached this point I think it mostly just comes down to people naturally being irresponsible with power. The right sucked ass in the 90s and especially the 2000s, anyone pretending otherwise is coping or wasn't born yet. It was extremely easy for the left to grab power. But they made all the exact same mistakes and let the radical voices take over their side and so now the inmates are running the asylum so to speak (literally in this case seeing as we're dealing people who unironically think cutting off your cock makes you a biological woman.)

The left also idealizes and over romanticizes “revolutionaries” so the reasonable voices eventually get trampled and drowned out once reasonable goals are met and new goals needed.

It’s always easier to criticize and heckle than to govern. The right wing media always did much better when they had a democrat in office to be angry about and mock. Bush was terrible for their ratings, Obama a blessing.

I know we can’t undo history but I’m so curious what the American left wing would look like today if it didn’t have the troon menace or had not totally bowed to their complete insanity. Something else would have filled the void, but hard to say what.

I like the phrase “weaponized empathy” and it really does capture the primary tactic the left has used the past decade. A particular subset of women have turbo-charged the insanity, attempting to use empathy as a both a bludgeon and censor. I think it’s more effective in women’s social circles because many are raising small children, so all that empathy and emotion is dialed up a lot higher than normal. They seem to want to keep pre-school rules about feelings and kind behavior into the adult world.

This is also why the really unhinged BPD people have held such sway, they are ready to throw a mentally unhinged fit and if something hurts their feelings or makes them feel unsafe…and that’s basically anything and everything.

Spoiler

I watched a large FB mom’s (red state, blue city) group in the wake of CK murder because it’s such a trainwreck of overwrought lefty moms. CK murder wasn’t even explicitly mentioned, I think they deleted any posts mentioning it because it was going to be such a lightening rod and also they couldn’t be victims. Many wrong thinkers had already been purged or left the group after Trump’s election to form another not-insane lefty mom’s group. Even so ludicrous proxy wars took place in the wake until finally one woman had the audacity to say it’s ok to disagree with political opinions, politics shouldn’t cloud moms helping each other. She was met with lukewarm warm support, until the loons declaring it’s ok unless your political opinions make them and their children “feel unsafe” and endanger their lives! They really do insist feelings are a metric and somehow people must cater to them in the political arena.

I’m curious how steadfast this group will be in the face of societal opinions shifting. These women are group think enjoyers and conformists at heart, it’s just recently conformity tried a big rebrand as “non-conformity” via terrible fashion choices and psychiatric labels for everyone

 

[draggs]

https://archive.ph/DL8BLThis

This Is the Feeling of Losing a Country. I Know It Well.

When your country strips you of rights and protections, it tells you that it no longer recognizes you. Other times, you realize that you no longer recognize your country. People leave; families rupture along political lines; friendships shatter; people and institutions that used to be widely admired are vilified, and yesterday’s villains are sainted; familiar faces disappear from the public sphere; an aggressive conformity takes hold; the material conditions of life change.

The indefinite suspension of Jimmy Kimmel’s show signaled just such a shift in landscape. The news tells us that we are moving from one country to a different, autocratic one. The television shows us: This country looks different, sounds different and feels different. A familiar face and a familiar voice vanish. Some people turned on their televisions on Friday night to see a memorial to Charlie Kirk when they expected to see a comedian welcoming his next guest.

What unites the many actions of the Trump administration, from the sledgehammer it has taken to government programs to the demonstrative cruelty it has built into immigration raids, is that they transform the daily physical, economic and psychic experience of life. President Trump is remaking the country in his image: crude, harsh, gratuitously mean. The ongoing attack on civil society, which his administration plans to intensify in the name of Charlie Kirk, is a part of this program. Civil society makes life more livable. The administration’s message is that the work of civil society no longer belongs in this country.

And neither do trans people. The government’s official policy is that we do not exist — and yet, somehow, we constitute a danger to the country. The fact that Kirk was killed while he was answering a question about the purported prevalence of trans mass shooters (a fiction he had helped promulgate) and the news that the suspect in Kirk’s killing apparently has a romantic partner who is trans have hypercharged this process of disowning.

On Monday morning, before returning from a weekend away, I entered the following words into the search bar on my phone: “famous trans people.” Then I tried “transgender journalists,” “transgender professors” and a few similar queries. My name did not come up. This was my inexact way of measuring the risk that someone would target me. It appeared to be low, even after a weekend of Donald Trump and his prominent allies blaming the left in general and trans people in particular for Kirk’s assassination. OK, I thought, I could go home, for now.

The feeling that I am on borrowed time in my own home is a familiar one. Twelve years ago, I was forced to leave Russia to protect my family from a campaign to take children away from L.G.B.T. parents. In the years since, Russia has been adding L.G.B.T. people to a list of “terrorists and extremists.” Other lists — of “foreign agents,” “undesirable organizations” — are for journalists, academics, media outlets and universities. For a while after Russia issued the arrest warrant that resulted in my being sentenced in absentia to prison, I had a recurrent nightmare: I am on a plane to Moscow, which is exciting, until I remember that I will be arrested as soon as I land.

Ece Temelkuran, the prominent Turkish political columnist, who now lives in exile, described a moment of realization: “I was standing at a gate in Tunis airport after talking to my lawyer, who had said: ‘They’re arresting journalists by the dozen today. Take a vacation or something. I don’t know, go away somewhere.’ I looked at the passengers boarding the plane to Istanbul, then down at my boarding pass. While trying to change my ticket from home to somewhere else, it was the first time I felt that Turkey was hardly my country.” This quote is from a book called “How to Lose a Country.”

The price of admission to Trump’s America is aggressive compliance, the sort demonstrated by more and more universities. Columbia and Williams College, for example, have been voluntarily flying flags at half-staff in honor of Kirk. Meanwhile, the University of California, Berkeley, has notified about 160 students, faculty members and staff that it has given their names to the federal government in connection with “alleged antisemitic incidents.” The philosopher Judith Butler and the Middle East historian Ussama Makdisi are perhaps the only two notified people who have spoken publicly about the email they received. Butler sees the silence of the others as a sign of fear.

These people have good reasons to be frightened. Over the last eight months, we have all learned how such lists are used: to exile students and professors from the university or from the country — and to put others on notice that they are living or working on borrowed time. That they are, to borrow a term from a previous era of lists, un-American.

​

A friend of mine is in the cross hairs of the administration. I asked her if her world had gotten smaller. Not exactly, she said. “It’s like what happens when somebody dies. There will always be people who will disappoint you. And other people show themselves, having been through what you’ve been through.”

Something is dying: the sense that we know our country. Butler told me that when they got the email notification from U.C. Berkeley, they had trouble believing the university would so badly violate its own procedure and fail in its obligation to protect academic freedom. They had trouble believing it even though they have studied autocracies. Even though they are currently writing a book on Franz Kafka and the law. In Kafka’s novel “The Trial,” the protagonist is arrested but never learns what his crime was. The letter Butler received from the university counsel did not specify for what offense, if any, they might be investigated.

I have been thinking of historical, rather than fictional, antecedents, in particular the assassination in 1938 of a Nazi diplomat in Paris by a Polish-German Jewish teenager named Herschel Grynszpan. I’ve been thinking about it because it’s an assassination; because, like most public violence, it was committed by a young man; and because it was an act of despair. Grynszpan’s family, rejected by both Germany and Poland, was stuck in borderland hell between those two countries, along with some 12,000 other people. Staying with an uncle in Paris, Grynszpan was unable to help them. He decided to kill someone he saw as a representative of the force that was immiserating his loved ones. If the information released by the Utah investigators so far proves accurate, Tyler Robinson might have felt a similar desperate fury.

Grynszpan’s action served as a pretext for Kristallnacht, “the Night of Broken Glass,” a two-day state-sponsored pogrom in Nazi Germany. During the course of it, authorities rounded up nearly 30,000 Jews, marking the first time the regime conducted mass arrests and put people in concentration camps because of who they were and not what they had ostensibly done.
But what makes this parallel feel most apt is how nervous I am about drawing it. The comparison seems straightforward: The person who was murdered was a representative of a hateful ideology, the person thought to have killed him was a deluded young man who may have tried to oppose that hatred in the most destructive manner imaginable. And yet something in the transformed landscape of this country tells me I’m not supposed to say so.

Whittaker Chambers, in his famous review of Atlas Shrugged, wrote:

From almost any page of Atlas Shrugged, a voice can be heard, from painful necessity, commanding: “To a gas chamber — go!”

I hear a voice shouting the same thing when I read left opinions, for a long time now

 

[Taylor Laurenz-Southern]

Thanks for the answers guys. Thought there was something I'm missing. Turns out they really have lost their fucking minds over this.