Perception Of Things That Have Completely Changed Due To Media - Try to keep modern politics to a minimum

[Thiletonomics]

Jocks and cheerleaders being all evil bullies and the nerds are innocent good people. Someone made a thread on twitter some time ago about it and people responded that the popular kids were in fact the nicest because that's why they were popular in first place.

This has been so common place in media, to the point that it was refreshing to see a nice guy jock character. Tyler from Total Drama and Kevin Thompson from Daria were my standout examples of that.

Also, people tend to overworship Goth/Alternative characters in media, while ignoring those that are actually assholes IRL.

Melee combat, sword fights, even brawls being these long bouts of parry, riposte, block, jump, feint, quip, etc.

Sure it makes for fancy action scenes but strenuous combat quickly tires people out. Especially in medieval combat of knights with the weight of heavy armor and weapons.

Those combat scenes and the ways they are choreographed do seem like long drawn-out dance routines. It's probably the Jackie Chan movies that set that mindset for me, since he himself said exactly that about his fight scenes.

 

[Autistic Racist Hambone]

Honestly, the operation of bullets in general. Prime choice: the idea that shooting an explosive barrel or really anything flammable would cause it to spontaneously explode or catch fire rather than just punching a hole through it. Probably the most retarded example of it I've noticed personally was how Fallout 3 actually  does get that fact right with the likes of oil spills and gas leaks only catching fire when exposed to muzzle flare, only to muck it all up in 4 by having oil spills magically catch fire if you shoot them.

 

[Everyone i hate is a pedo]

"Hey, man, what if we made the villainous character drink milk? It's like... contrasting something associated with innocence with wickedness, or purity being corrupted. Very subversive and artistic."

Milk is now evil.

people are too old to realize that this is basically true to zoomers. another big one is how playing all those pop songs over murder or torture scenes to create dissonance now just has zoomers associating classic pop songs with torture

 

[Squanto Airi]

Bullies being from broken homes and being dumb and hated by everyone.

During my time at school, I noticed the bullies tended to be the teacher pets and doing relatively well gradewise.

 

[God of Nothing]

Sure it makes for fancy action scenes but strenuous combat quickly tires people out. Especially in medieval combat of knights with the weight of heavy armor and weapons.

that in of itself is another mediaism, albeit far older

keep in mind, armies had to march a lot and fight for the better part of a day

if it was that exhaustive, armor wouldn't be worn at all or would be dragged around in wagons for the vast majority of conflicts and only pulled out when battle was about to begin, which is ridiculous because it could begin at any moment

Melee combat, sword fights, even brawls being these long bouts of parry, riposte, block, jump, feint, quip, etc.

this is still true though
it's because most writers haven't been in fight in their entire lives

 

[The Nothingness]

Loading and unloading a revolver. Having shot one at a gun range, the cartridges don't always come out when emptying the cylinder. So reloading in the middle of a gun fight would be more intense than what is depicted in media.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

if it was that exhaustive, armor wouldn't be worn at all or would be dragged around in wagons for the vast majority of conflicts and only pulled out when battle was about to begin, which is ridiculous because it could begin at any moment

Great point! I think I fell for the fantasy gaming take of heavy armor = slower movement. The basic infantryman’s kit today probably weighs more than a knight’s suit of armor and they are able to run with that.

One thing that I think both real life and fiction bring up is the challenge of fighting with an enclosed helmet as field of view can be limited in some capacity.

 

[God of Nothing]

One thing that I think both real life and fiction bring up is the challenge of fighting with an enclosed helmet as field of view can be limited in some capacity.

You can't fully see your sides, but that's a small trade off for vital protection.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

Loading and unloading a revolver. Having shot one at a gun range, the cartridges don't always come out when emptying the cylinder. So reloading in the middle of a gun fight would be more intense than what is depicted in media.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

I'm pretty sure the trope originally came from A Clockwork Orange, in which the milk Alex DeLarge and his gang drinks is literally laced with drugs so the symbolism was about the youth being tainted (Malcom McDowell was almost thirty during the filming, but his character is supposed to be a teen). ACO is of course an iconic Kubrick classic, so over the years other filmmakers have also used milk with their antagonists (Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men, Hans Landa in Inglourious Basterds, Homelander in The Boys) , so now we have retards in social media saying shit like "if I see you drinking milk, I just know you evil". Just goes to show how much strength the power of association has, no matter how small of a thing we're talking about.

Further reinforced by a large part of the global population being lactose intolerant

 

[Meat Target]

The spergs over at TV Tropes have whole sections dedicated to this topic.

As a little kid, I used to think spaceflight works like in Star Wars. Like WWII dogfighting physics, having a rocket on all the time to maintain constant velocity, etc. Took me awhile to learn that force is applied to change velocity, and that some way to radiate excess heat away is needed because there's no conduction or convection in a vacuum.

Spacecraft also wouldn't all be flying on the same plane or axes as if they were aircraft or watercraft. Since there's no true "up" or "down" in space, vessels would be topsy-turvy to each other.

A map like that of the Imperium in 40k, for example, isn't really accurate because it is flat. It would have to be a globe of the galaxy instead.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It would have to be a globe of the galaxy instead.

If it were an elliptical galaxy, yep. If it were an irregular galaxy, it'd be a 3D blob. But a spiral galaxy like the WH40K one is rather flat, except for the central bulge.

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This time, not a photo, but a screencap of Space Engine. It's this galaxy from "close" by in intergalactic space. The fuzzy blobs on the right are the LMC and SMC galaxies.

(thumbnail of large pic)

(This galaxy is around 100,000 light years wide, but "only" around 1000 light years thick outside of the central part.)

 

[Meat Target]

Melee combat, sword fights, even brawls being these long bouts of parry, riposte, block, jump, feint, quip, etc.

Sure it makes for fancy action scenes but strenuous combat quickly tires people out. Especially in medieval combat of knights with the weight of heavy armor and weapons.

I've also read that large-scale medieval battles were rarely dramatic clashes of armies like the Rohirrim intervening at Minas Tirith. Many of them were skirmishes and one-sided routs, where a side chickened out or just got roflstomped.

Speaking of the Middle Ages, the idea that they were these horrible, bleak, grimdark Before Times of superstition and stupidity are exaggerated. Much of that comes from the Black Legends that the English cooked up to throw shade at France and Spain.

Yes, the Church had its bad actors and unsavory practices, but it also did a lot of good. It was there to pick up the pieces after the Fall of Rome. Benedictine monks transcribed works of antiquity and saved them from oblivion. Universities like Oxford and Cambridge were established. It gave us saintly artists, philosophers, and scientists, like Thomas Aquinas, Albertus Magnus, and Hildegard of Bingen.

I'm not saying it was all sunshine and rainbows, but it wasn't all depression, corruption, and human feces, either.

 

[Shek$il]

Melee combat

Doubling up on this. Any movie, even a poorly directed one is a better watch than a real life street fight. Fights are the least clean, graceful, or cool thing to witness. It's actually infuriating how uncoordinated and gay humans look duking it out.

There's no real blocking or sounds when someone takes a hit, and their head doesn't snap back cleanly. It's always a dull, depressing kind of event to view where punches sound indistinguishable from slaps, everyone moves like a nervous chicken-ape hybrid, and falling wrong isn't a slide on your back with a cool knockout, but having a disgraceful seizure or dying if you bump the back of your head.

Coupled with the fact our Best Street Fighters/MMA guys spend 80% of a match sniffing each other's assholes and straddling I'm filled with a disgust at how different fights in media are vs real life.

Fighting should fall under public indecency laws if it doesn't involve cool sequences.

If a fight doesn't look like this both of you can continue your gay sex in a jail cell.

 

[millais]

Thanks to films, there is a distinctive "Abraham Lincoln" voice and accent, even though it's impossible to exactly know what he sounded like because there was no phonograph recording technology during his lifetime.

Same for some other historical figures that lived before the advent of audio recording, although I think it is more egregious in the case of Abraham Lincoln because it's not just a basic extrapolation of the regional accent and dialect of the era. The modern voice used in films gives him a specific cadence and everything.

 

[Pale Empress]

Thanks to films, there is a distinctive "Abraham Lincoln" voice and accent, even though it's impossible to exactly know what he sounded like because there was no phonograph recording technology during his lifetime.

Same for some other historical figures that lived before the advent of audio recording, although I think it is more egregious in the case of Abraham Lincoln because it's not just a basic extrapolation of the regional accent and dialect of the era. The modern voice used in films gives him a specific cadence and everything.

Iirc, contemporary accounts described Lincoln's voice as pretty thin and reedy. Daniel Day-Lewis' portrayal of Lincoln is probably the most accurate that I've seen in that regard, but there's obviously no way of knowing for certain.

 

[Whatisgoingon]

Thanks to films, there is a distinctive "Abraham Lincoln" voice and accent, even though it's impossible to exactly know what he sounded like because there was no phonograph recording technology during his lifetime.

Same for some other historical figures that lived before the advent of audio recording, although I think it is more egregious in the case of Abraham Lincoln because it's not just a basic extrapolation of the regional accent and dialect of the era. The modern voice used in films gives him a specific cadence and everything.

Iirc, contemporary accounts described Lincoln's voice as pretty thin and reedy. Daniel Day-Lewis' portrayal of Lincoln is probably the most accurate that I've seen in that regard, but there's obviously no way of knowing for certain.

That's a great example that I've never given much thought to. Thin and reedy is definitely not the stereotypical way they portray his voice in media. I wonder what show or movie was the first to do the booming "four score and seven years ago" voice, because clearly it must've been popular enough for everyone to copy. Every cartoon I watched as a kid that had him or a character parodying him had the same voice, so it clearly had to come from somewhere.

 

[UnKillFill]

Thanks to films, there is a distinctive "Abraham Lincoln" voice and accent, even though it's impossible to exactly know what he sounded like because there was no phonograph recording technology during his lifetime.

Same for some other historical figures that lived before the advent of audio recording, although I think it is more egregious in the case of Abraham Lincoln because it's not just a basic extrapolation of the regional accent and dialect of the era. The modern voice used in films gives him a specific cadence and everything.

Next, you're gonna tell me that Mark Twain didn't really sound like this...

 

[mlanguishi]

Going way back but still 'media', Jesus being long blonde haired and blue eyed.

 

[Squanto Airi]

I've also read that large-scale medieval battles were rarely dramatic clashes of armies like the Rohirrim intervening at Minas Tirith. Many of them were skirmishes and one-sided routs, where a side chickened out or just got roflstomped.

Speaking of the Middle Ages, the idea that they were these horrible, bleak, grimdark Before Times of superstition and stupidity are exaggerated. Much of that comes from the Black Legends that the English cooked up to throw shade at France and Spain.

Yes, the Church had its bad actors and unsavory practices, but it also did a lot of good. It was there to pick up the pieces after the Fall of Rome. Benedictine monks transcribed works of antiquity and saved them from oblivion. Universities like Oxford and Cambridge were established. It gave us saintly artists, philosophers, and scientists, like Thomas Aquinas, Albertus Magnus, and Hildegard of Bingen.

I'm not saying it was all sunshine and rainbows, but it wasn't all depression, corruption, and human feces, either.

To be fair, the media depiction did give us this sweet Suffocation/History Channel commercial: