Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

As much as I hate the FCC and nearly everything it does, I find it hard to get that upset about people with more money than anyone in the town I live in will ever see in their lifetimes getting fined the equivalent of a speeding ticket or having to go to cable where they can say whatever the fuck they like.

Kimmel will either apologize and go back to his failshow or refuse and go to cable as a "free speech hero" instead of a painfully unfunny jerk. At least Stern and Carlin before him were actually funny at the time (Carlin haters can blow me).
These people aren't funny nor entertaining enough to exist without constant corpo synergistic manipulation. And they don't have the conviction to rough it independently. It's a perfect recipe for failure, I love it.

Look at the big late night lefty host's failed podcast together, Strike Force Five. They had so many huge monied different masters so no one wanted to do the same level of manipulation hype due to many different corpo interests. It was so much less than the sum of its parts, it was proof the books are cooked, the game is rigged, etc.
 
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Sorry to derail but I had to tell some people who’d understand as I left social media when I left the left in 2021..

My Dad is a boomer lib. Considers himself a centrist but is becoming more of an angry MSM consuming shit lib in old age. He works in PHARMA and eats up all the DEI training. He came to visit this week and he knows my views have changed dramatically. He brought up the assassination and we got pretty heated about it. I told him all the media he watches is incredibly biased if not outright lies and he said he was so disappointed that I’d become far right.

This is the kicker. I could not get my Dad to admit that people (democrats) celebrating the death are wrong. I thought surely he would concede on this. He conceded nothing but just went on with whataboutisms and muh both sides.

I honestly don’t know how to continue our relationship. I will for the sake of my kids having grandparents and being civil, but it all feels so hollow knowing I cannot be honest about myself and my family with my own father without provoking liberal rage.

I’m so bummed and angry. I fucking hate feeling so isolated.

He's your dad. Just agree that there are some political subjects you don't talk about, and move forward like that. If he won't stop bringing shit up, just laugh and shrug or feign ignorance ("Charlie Kirk? Never heard of him. DEI? Is that one of those new Korean rock bands? Anyway, crazy weather we're getting these days, huh?")

Model to your own kids that family bonds are more important than disagreements about stupid shit.
 
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Come on! You guys used to love this comic!
In case anyone thinks this is new: this is #1357 from 2014 (I'd know if it was new, the xkcd feed is on my desktop).

The alt text is good though:
I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
Except in this case, the things they're saying ARE (borderline) illegal, so it isn't even a 100% valid concern.
 
Free speech assures you are not punished by the government for speaking openly and brazenly. You cannot be jailed, imprisoned, or killed by government actors for speaking your mind.. Free Speech does not stop people from choosing to, or not to associate with you. We saw the Left use this constantly against other people. Publically ostracizing them and getting them fired from their jobs. They are now feeling the edge of their own sword stabbing them. Holding them to their own words that these filthy monsters spew out. And they oft forget regardless if you are on or off your shift; you are a representative of your company or business and can be removed for WHATEVER reason they deem appropriate.

I will not defend the rights of people who actively would see mine removed and demolished at the drop of a hat. I've done that, and they now killed Charlie Kirk; who was a free speech advocate and was assassinated for it. They can say whatever the fuck they want now. But don't expect to have no consequences for the shit you say in return of the public's disgust. You might not rot in prison for your shitty opinions; but I can at least assure you suffer for your foulness in other ways that won't end in your life being taken, or rotted away in a jail cell.
Remember when the lefties went after Provorov of the Flyers for not participating in warm up on NHL pride night because he wouldn't wear a pride flag jersey? He doesn't say shit about it until the press asks him post game and he says “I respect everyone. I respect everybody's choices. My choice is to stay true to myself and my religion.”.

Basically saying I have nothing against pride, I just don't want to wear the fucking flag on my body and celebrate it.

The left tries to get him fired from the team, contacts his sponsors, combs over all his socials/private life to point out where he's been hypocritical to his religion (Orthodox Christian). They find he lived with a girlfriend while not being married and used it to label him a homophobe, transphobe, and bigot.

He didn't even speak up against pride.....all for refusing to celebrate pride. Then these people wanna preach about free speech now after glorifying a political assassination and attacking his widow/kids online.

Honestly get fucked because if they end up back in power it will go right back to trampling free speech for their ideology regardless of what conservatives do.
 
The left is seething over Kimmel's cancelation.

"REEEEE it was just jokes! Welcome to North Korea!"

Between their Charlie Kirk jokes and the time they defended James Gunn out of cancelation, take notice over how the left gets offended by every single possible joke under the sun ... Unless it's about death or pedophilia. Only then will they defend jokes.

Kimmel canceled, ANTIFA finally labeled as a terrorist organization ... Wonderful night of news. I just wish that these great pieces of news had not come at the cost of Charlie Kirk's life.
 
Hey, being unfunny is not illegal. Kimmel outright lied, it wasn't even like speculative. They can be on TV, not be watched by anyone and bleed money forever for all I care. If they want to kill their own show by turning it into an eternal politisperg, they are free to do so.
No, fuck that gay shit. Make being unfunny illegal.
 
I will give him a small amount of credit because he treads carefully on the line of gravedancing by saying that Charlie was a father with kids and friends and to give people grace while they're mourning without uttering the words "he didn't deserve it" and "political violence is reprehensible no matter the target" and then immediately proceeds to seethe over some of Charlie's quotes.

I distinctly remember John McCain being a complete gentleman when dealing with Obama; he went out of his way to quash rumors that Obama was Muslim, that Obama was going to ruin this country, and on, and on.

No, ma'am. No, ma'am. He's a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that's what this campaign is all about.

The right has been trying to ride the high road with these sycophants for years. Obama, in his twilight years, can’t even look in a mirror long enough to admit that decades of portraying one side of the political argument as white supremacist fascists is in anyway responsible for what happened to Charlie. Of course Charlie didn’t deserve it, but didn’t you hear some of the terrible things he said?????????

These people have never intended to engage in any good faith compromise or debate. Ever. They are evil and do not deserve our time of day. I’ve seen personal friends go on social media and post about how Charlie Kirk was a white supremacist for having some of the most milquetoast opinions possible.

These people should go fuck themselves and none of us should engage any further than making sure they know they can go fuck themselves. If they can’t see the life snatched out of an innocent family man in 4K Turbo HD and not sit back and question themselves, there’s no magical combination of words I or any of you can say or type to persuade them otherwise.

These niggers and troons sat back and laughed at a young girl spending her last few moments on this earth terrified and alone; they laughed at a wife trying to keep herself together. Fuck them and they deserve the Hell they’ve opened up for themselves. I’ve warned my liberal ex-friends (because I’m not a white supremacist, you see, I’m a ‘good one’ - it’s just those fascists on TV, I’m just misguided.) that their actions would steel the political center and right into the fascism they so fear.

Fuck ‘em.
 
$200 dolphin steaks at Dorsia
You were able to get a reservation to DORSIA???
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You know a point that often gets repeated is that the reason why right wingers are going so hard on leftists is because they're cheering for the death of a good man with non-extremist, even moderate politics which they could relate to (fair assessment, and this is the actual motivation I'd agree), but would there really be any right-wing American politician a radical could get away with killing that would make people not care? And instead make them go "Oh yeah you can cheer for that guy dying no one really cares dude". I'd say generally people are always going to react poorly to political violence outside of extreme autocratic instances, so I don't really think so 🤔
 
Sorry to derail but I had to tell some people who’d understand as I left social media when I left the left in 2021..

My Dad is a boomer lib. Considers himself a centrist but is becoming more of an angry MSM consuming shit lib in old age. He works in PHARMA and eats up all the DEI training. He came to visit this week and he knows my views have changed dramatically. He brought up the assassination and we got pretty heated about it. I told him all the media he watches is incredibly biased if not outright lies and he said he was so disappointed that I’d become far right.

This is the kicker. I could not get my Dad to admit that people (democrats) celebrating the death are wrong. I thought surely he would concede on this. He conceded nothing but just went on with whataboutisms and muh both sides.

I honestly don’t know how to continue our relationship. I will for the sake of my kids having grandparents and being civil, but it all feels so hollow knowing I cannot be honest about myself and my family with my own father without provoking liberal rage.

I’m so bummed and angry. I fucking hate feeling so isolated.
Here is my advice, for family. For good or for ill will be there. Unless this circumstance cannot be avoided; and your Father continues to bring up politics, or god forbid; starts pushing it onto your children. You just tell your dad that we don't discuss politics with eachother for the sake of our relationship. He's still your dad, he's still your children's grandfather. You draw the line that if he starts preaching to them.. you might have to consider distancing them until they can decide what is more important to them.

My sister in law (My brother's wife) and I oft speak politics and disagree a lot. I'm moderate right, she's moderate left. We can be cordial and disagree. But we know that if we start butting heads, especially around her children. We drop it and leave it there. There's too much shit out of our control to let it divide us. Her children love their uncle and I am always there for them in spite of our disagreements. If we can RESPECTFULLY disagree. Then the relationship remains strong and true.
 
The FCC literally demanding Disney tow the line is censorship you bootlicker.
Except they didn't. Every ABC affiliate said 'fuck this noise' and canceled their airings which led to Disney/ABC suspending the show. The FCC didn't do anything except say they were going to look into whether what he said rose to the level of a crime
 
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