Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Imagine being a tranny-chasing reddit-using antifa furry, being told by your fellow leftoids that Kirk is an evil nazi bigotphobe who MUST BE STOPPED, then going out and shooting le ebil nootzi, only for those same leftoids to spin on a dime and accuse you of being a nazi right wing chud yourself (right after celebrating the assassination itself ofc).

You threw your life away to please these people, and they try to throw you under the bus and label you as the enemy anyway.

 

[strange creature]

My theory for why tyler wrote the "notices bulge owo what's this" and "if you read this you are gay" is not because he is a groyper, but because that's the maximum amount of trolling and edginess a leftist could muster up because wrong-think is so deeply embedded in their ideology.

I'm confident he did want to cause confusion with these messages, but he didn't wanna go "too far" (ie calling kirk a faggot or referencing something jewish), because even writing something like that even if he didn't believe it, all with the intention to frame the right, according to leftist creed, would still make him a nazi. There are certain words or phrases they can never ever say, and even in this scheme he couldn't break free of that.

Unfortunately for him they do actually think he's a groyper for writing that and even if he calls to kill trump and glory to antifa right now, they'll never re-claim him back for writing that and are parading him as a far-right trump supporter. There is nobody who will accept him now.

edit: I wanna add that leftists have the 180° version of this theory, they think Tyler is a groyper who is *pretending* to be a leftist where the rest of the messages are red-herrings all because of one of the casings saying "if you read this you are gay" due to purity politics. The discussion therefore is a retarded fight on who Tyler was larping as, relying on normie ignorance of how groypers operate and controlling the narrative, which I'm sure people realized.

 

[AnOminous]

Am I a psychopath for feeling so fucking happy at the suffering that kid must be experiencing right now?

If it helps solve the case, that's a good thing.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

The madness will continue until you agree to be a decent human being, CHUD!\

Teacher allegedly showed Charlie Kirk assassination video to 10- and 11-year-olds, told students he deserved to be killed​

(Kiwi Link)

 

[parody]

Realistically? I expect college campuses will quietly start dismantling their mechanisms for hosting/facilitating public debates (to avoid this kind of thing happening again, they'll just stop hosting events like this), "in-person" events like this one will be phased out in favor of virtual debates, social media to tighten their moderation policies across the board (to explicitly punish gravedancing, etc.) in desperate bids to avoid federal oversight, congress will kick off a misguided modern internet censorship effort that will fail in a year, and a fuckton more liberals will get their dumb asses fired for running their mouths, refuse to learn from the experience, and radicalize further.

As for your "six months" deadline? At least one more shooting at a public political event of a milquetoast conservative pundit by then, and for my wild-card guess I'll throw out "we'll probably have a few RWDS form up naturally at that point in response too." Because I love a long shot

Doesn't really sound like much of a victory.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

My theory for why tyler wrote the "notices bulge owo what's this" and "if you read this you are gay" is not because he is a groyper, but because that's the maximum amount of trolling and edginess a leftist could muster up because wrong-think is so deeply embedded in their ideology.

To a leftist, being edgy means being a degenerate who parades his filth in front of others, because that does get a negative reaction. And also because making fun of "oppressed" minority groups is a no no.

 

[Ted's Cabin]

Obviously no one thinks he was aiming for the neck and the carotid artery, that was just a lucky shot.

You would think so because that would be fucking retarded, but we had a guy just a few pages back writing huge essays about how only an elite sniper could have hit the neck in a single shot.

Crazy question: How do I block sites from ever showing up in my search history? Like just delete them entirely from my internet experience.

I use a paid search engine called kagi which has that built in. I'm sure it's possible with some browser extension, but google has gotten so unbelievably unusable that I'm finally willing to pay for a subscription. I have it block HN, reddit, wikihow, and ycombinator while boosting archive sites like archive.org or library genesis. It seems to do a decent job of filtering out AI, and the optional AI results are more usable than whatever garbage google is putting out there.

The real irony is that most trannies are pretty tech-savvy. We love to pretend otherwise but they're not exactly ignorant in that domain; look at how many troons run critical internet infrastructure. They CHOOSE to be this retarded, God only knows why.

This is half true. Generally, they travel in polycules where one of them will have a high paying tech job and supports the others who work shit jobs part time or are complete freeloaders. There's no guarantee that any other than the primary breadwinner is good at computers.

"Yes a one party state is the best idea and would NEVER EVER backfire!!!!". I support this and the removal of the Democratic Party and the destruction of the left. As a non-American, I look forward to watching it.

Not that I disagree, but as a non-American, you don't have any control over your own country and are relegated to watching what we do anyway.

simply enforcing the Communist Control Act

This would immediately get picked up by the supreme court if it was actually enforced and I don't think a single judge would allow it. The liberal judges would be against it because it targets them, and conservative judges would be against it because the first amendment very clearly states this can't be done in the US. Even after all of this, the US considers protection of speech from the government far more sacred than we did shortly following the war.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Vaclav]

Makes perfect sense when you realize long term they've completely lost control of leftists and the goal wasn't so much discrediting pro Palestine ( let's be honest they do a good enough job of that themselves) so much as taking out the one guy who could have damaged their last remaining powerbase in evangelicals.

The number one thing I see people talk about that is suspicious, is how sloppy the medical care was for Kirk and the way they immediately got him in the car without bracing his neck. Id like to see a medical experts opinion on this.

The Israeli theory that makes the most sense to me is that this was not about anything Charlie Kirk said or did. The goal was to drive a wedge between right and left and head off the left-right alliance that's started to form against Zionism. This act has inflamed left and right factions against each other and it could be more difficult for figures like MTG, Ilhan Omar, Tucker Carlson and Cenk Uyghur to work together after this point. Charlie was simply a convenient target.

Not doing anything to associate the shooter with pro-Palestine activism makes sense if the goal of the act was to divert people's attention away from the conflict and make them focus on left-right tribalism. Israel would much rather people don't know and don't discuss what's going on over there, they're probably resigned to the fact that there's no way to put a positive spin on it. Tons of people are already saying it was an Israeli op, if they scribbled "Free Palestine" on the ammo the net effect may be to increase suspicion toward Israel rather than discrediting the Palestinian cause.

Still, I find it pretty unlikely the above is the case since Kirk was one of the most effective salesmen of Zionism to the under-30 demographic in the US, and talent like that isn't easy to come by. I doubt he would ever truly go off the reservation either. If he was starting to say slightly spicy things, it's likely his handlers gave him permission for that, knowing that if he didn't he would lose credibility with his audience. The same as the Jordan Peterson strategy. Charlie made several million dollars and bought three houses with the money he made selling the establishment line, all that could just as easily be taken away if he went off script.

 

[Fetid Queef]

He was assassinated in broad daylight in front of over a thousand people including his wife and children and almost the entirety of one of the nation's two dominant political parties immediately praised the assassin and called for additional killings.

Would that not qualify as news over in Kangaroo fucker land?

It does but the amount of coverage it got here was a surprise.

Cheers for the explaination.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

The last person to debate Charlie is a "father" too.

*Pic not related* LMAO.

 

[not william stenchever]

It's going to be hilarious when war actually breaks out, they'll cry tears of a broken will when faced against any other enemy other than neoconservatives and neoliberals.

If we reach that point think of renewable solutions that can persist in the face of widespread societal chaos and logistic chain breakdowns such as knives and paracord instead of zip-ties and ammunition. I hear YA dystopian novel series The Hunger Games has also made bows pretty popular.

 

[BigMan13]

I think that the detransitioners that the right elevates are not necessarily tools to promote detransition, but instead disrupt the pipeline to transition by waking up the right, middle, and profoundly out of touch liberals that the MSM narrative that trans medical experimentation on children and vulnerable adults is settled science, medically necessary, super rare (and therefore NBD, "why do you care so much, huh?"), and 100% effective is complete made up bullshit and always has been. [...]

I also get what you're saying. That it's ultimately smarter to take a more gradual approach in platforming detransitioners.

We can do both, we can platform poons --> TERFS (though, don't forget, they are "radical feminists"), we can also platform detransitioners and detransitioning on mass. So much so that, as you mentioned, the cultists who know of the heresy will always have it in their faces. It's far easier to dismiss detransitioning right now because, as you describe, even the right treats it with disgust and suspicion, that's not appealing to a questioning trannie. Yes, it will be "imperfect", but we aren't looking for perfection, you need numbers, not messaging or the "perfect message".

And on the numbers, I believe it was some 1% of Americans that are trans by some definition, so, many pfp troons and poons, even then, I recall that ~15%, give or take, of transitioners detransition. Doesn't sound like much, but, considering that 1% model is only for a given year, and not absolute numbers, there could be 500k+ detransitioned in the United States alone, even conservative estimates would put it at over 100k. Pfp troons and poons would be even better, because, often, they know the ideology front to back, without any action taken. These are perfect people to be represented and platform, they just need to be allowed to.

I wouldn't say that this analysis is moralistic, though I appreciate the complement. This is strategy, and the right's current strategy of messaging (a usually Democrat thing by the way) is one that makes them a protest movement when it comes to combatting transgenderism.


Also, on the thing about the Cluster B and Autism, you'd be surprised at how dynamic "Autistic" people and people with like labels can be, especially when they are given a functional option, rather than just more "sides". Even just saying "well we can't do anything because DSM-5 says so" is just resigning to, well, the DSM, asssociatively the broader left, and, of course, transgenderism.

 

[Observotron]

My theory for why tyler wrote the "notices bulge owo what's this" and "if you read this you are gay" is not because he is a groyper, but because that's the maximum amount of trolling and edginess a leftist could muster up because wrong-think is so deeply embedded in their ideology.

I'm confident he did want to cause confusion with these messages, but he didn't wanna go "too far" (ie calling kirk a faggot or referencing something jewish), because even writing something like that even if he didn't believe it, all with the intention to frame the right, according to leftist creed, would still make him a nazi. There are certain words or phrases they can never ever say, and even in this scheme he couldn't break free of that.

Unfortunately for him they do actually think he's a groyper for writing that and even if he calls to kill trump and glory to antifa right now, they'll never re-claim him back for writing that and are parading him as a far-right trump supporter.

Something im not really seeing talked about much is that the two etchings in question (the bulge and gay ones) are absolutely ancient internet memes (alongside the slav squat costume) that predated a lot of modern politics.

 

[Oulun]

The kneejerk response to the assassination was all centered on the possibility of a right-wing reprisal attack, but I think the odds of leftist copycat killings are much higher in the wake of this. They think it's all accelerating toward revolution, that you have to strike while the iron is hot.

 

[Lime]

Freedom of expression is freedom of expression, no matter how disgusting it may be. If you can see how fucked it was when they did it but choose to do the same you only reveal that there was no difference the whole time, only which side had the institutional power at the time

freedom of speech not freedom of consequences right? Why bother with the moral high road with people that are the enemy. They want you dead your women raped and your children turned into freaks. And they loudly proclaim it constantly for all to see constantly. There is no point to showing mercy to people who share no values with you. It's like giving Muslims your house and family.

 

[Yet Another Wanker]

Hot leftist socialist take time. I hate people getting fired for their hot takes. If someone has done wrong either you file a civil action or you press charges. I hate this let's get this wagie fired for saying no no words and I apply this equally to all. Lady has a bad day and calls the wagie at McDonalds a nigger not great but for the love of God does firing her prevent racism. Some CEO donates to trannies I hate you hate it but I hate cancel culture more.

Rich fucks already have way too much power to corrupts our laws and our minds why should they have the right to make us beggars for what we say.

 

[Rimanah]

The madness will continue until you agree to be a decent human being, CHUD!\

Teacher allegedly showed Charlie Kirk assassination video to 10- and 11-year-olds, told students he deserved to be killed​

(Kiwi Link)

Good God almighty, what the fuck.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Imagine being a tranny-chasing reddit-using antifa furry, being told by your fellow leftoids that Kirk is an evil nazi bigotphobe who MUST BE STOPPED, then going out and shooting le ebil nootzi, only for those same leftoids to spin on a dime and accuse you of being a nazi right wing chud yourself (right after celebrating the assassination itself ofc).

You threw your life away to please these people, and they try to throw you under the bus and label you as the enemy anyway.

Hopefully we can find out the motive more clearly. If it really goes deep into an Antifa conspiracy, pleasing his buddies might have been a big part.

My guess is that he was trying to "protect" his troon-bf from rising anti-troon sentiment by taking out the most popular chud he could get his hands on.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I say well why not take it a step farther and allow AI to generate child porn then, maybe it can help those "in need" and he fucking agrees and says it would help the MAP community. I didnt even know what the fuck a MAP was before now.

This is the real harms of the whole gay rights movement.

20 years ago it was pushed "they can't help it" which implies their actions CANNOT be controlled

This later evolved to trannies with the same logic....

And now pedophiles with the same logic.

Despite PLENTY of proof otherwise. Plenty of "gays" who refuse to act on it, "eggs" who refuse to crack, and YES, I bet you there's even some who have pedo feelings to a degree and refuse to act on it, even if JUST out of fear. I know that last one might rub kiwis the wrong way, but we've already seen shit like cuties where people admit being "non offending" maps, you seriously think theres not more? We saw this with gays, saw it with trans...

But if the standard is changed to "they can't help it" they now have an excuse, and can be open about it.

Behavior we tolerate is behavior that will increase. But the left doesn't think this.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Yeah for a mormon boomer he has a surprising understanding of the toxic underbelly of the internet.

"Man, I love working in Mitt Romney's office. Hmm, that's odd, he left his computer tabs open....what's 'yiffing'com'?"