Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

You either hand him over alive, or you hand over his body. Father chose alive. A rough choice either way, but seeing as how he's Mormon, he didn't want his kid to be damned for taking his own life (murder aside), most likely.
Fun fact: Even though the church itself has said they neither promote nor oppose capital punishment, in Doctrine & Covenants, it's actually commanded to lawfully enforce the death penalty on those who murder.
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the family wasn't huge, they were like 3 kids right?
Yeah, I think so. The family didn't look that big.

I was just saying most people think of Utah being a certain way. They stereotype people who live in Utah as being a strict Mormon and every family being huge with 30 kids and 4 wives.

Which is why I think most mainstream outlets are trying to go with "he was actually right-wing, Bazinga!!" bc of that preconceived idea about Utah most Americans have.

I dont think we haven't seen explicit evidence about the family's faith.

Personally, I think the family were at least Protestant, since I've been reading stuff about the father being in contact with a pastor(?)

From what I understand, Mormons don't have a role that's referred to as a pastor. A possibly similar(?) role is a bishop or an elder.

Obviously I'll eat crow if I'm wrong. The pictures that were on the mom's Facebook didn't seem too religious or anything either.
What accent even is this? I hate it. Sounds like some sort of multicultural Youtuber English I've heard from others before.

It's like there is a Reddit region in the Midlands or north west of London or something.
The profile says he's from Birmingham so he's probably some ethnic mix.
 
What accent even is this? I hate it. Sounds like some sort of multicultural Youtuber English I've heard from others before.
Who knows with these britfags. All this guy talks about are problems in countries, and mentioning epstein in his videos. His videos just feel like literal slop from the 2 I've seen.
 
This thread is full of people saying things they wouldn't utter in real life, I don't see your point. I also don't believe Robinson's father immediately went to the authorities for prize money, he called in a pastor who (I assume) advised him the only sensible thing to do is to turn his son in and face justice. Especially if Robinson was truly expressing suicidal thoughts, which poses a more immediate threat than whatever torture awaits him in the penal system.

If you found out someone you loved committed some crime and immediately think "Hell yeah I would turn that cunt in", I don't know what to think about you.
I would turn them in. Would it be a difficult thing to do? Absolutely, my entire family would be torn by it. But ultimately you have to, because the last thing you want is to be tossed into jail for a vile act of murder (which isn't just "some crime") that your child had committed. But go ahead and keep larping on your moral high ground though.
 
3 is lyrics to an anti-fascist song from WW2, and the arrows in 2 are a reference to the sci-fi video game Helldivers 2.

The insectoid faction known as "Termanids" are described as fascist in the setting, and the arrow commands are the keys you press to call down an airstrike in-game.
3 is lyrics to an anti-fascist song from WW2, and the arrows in 2 are a reference to the sci-fi video game Helldivers 2.

The insectoid faction known as "Termanids" are described as fascist in the setting, and the arrow commands are the keys you press to call down an airstrike in-game.

I know it's been posted to death, but it's the stratagem input for the 500kg bomb in helldivers 2.
Thanks guys for clearing that up, I was like 100 pages behind and the highlights are pretty sparse on details, so I appreciate it
 
Personally, I think the family were at least Protestant, since I've been reading stuff about the father being in contact with a pastor(?)
Could still be Mormon. Your average joe doesn't know the difference between Catholic and Christian, so I don't expect them to remember all the technicalities of another one of the Christianity forks.
 
Do you think that now that all these people are getting fired for the comments they're starting to get reality checks because now that they're unemployed they're forced to interact more with the major issues in the country that they've otherwise been ignoring?
 
Remember when they tried to act like the Butler shooter was a Trump supporter, somehow? How do these people pull of these kinds of mental gymnastics?
Straight white male. Conservative, Republican family. Gun enthusiasts. Posted in right wing forums, wore MAGA clothes, law enforcement father, Mormon. Is Trump going to declare war on the right now?
 
I dunno about you, but I don't want some guy who will murder someone at the drop of a hat out in the streets.
I actually care about being alive and living in a world where we try not to let mentally ill killers have the freedom to kill more people.

And it's pretty obvious but murder is bad. If I had a family member that went out and murdered someone regardless of the reasoning and it wasn't in self defense, I'd be on the phone with 911 too.

Lastly, I prefer not giving dangerous killers second chances. Second chances lead to more deaths. Don't give them a second chance to kill someone else. I don't know how this is so hard to understand.
You missed the context about a father turning in his own son. My remark wasn't about letting some rando go free, but about trusting one's own family.
 
Woah based! Can’t believe they got that fascist Charlie Kirk! I’m celebrating his death he deserved it for being a Nazi! That’s what spreading hate gets you!

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Heh. Sorry MAGA. He was one of you this whole time! You guys are so bloodthirsty and violent you kill your own for not being Nazi enough. Why can’t you be more empathetic and understanding and compassionate like me a leftist?
David Shyster.
 
Do you think that now that all these people are getting fired for the comments they're starting to get reality checks because now that they're unemployed they're forced to interact more with the major issues in the country that they've otherwise been ignoring?
I've only seen 2 or 3 instances of any of these people actually getting fired.
 
Fun fact: Even though the church itself has said they neither promote nor oppose capital punishment, in Doctrine & Covenants, it's actually commanded to lawfully enforce the death penalty on those who murder.
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Post-Vatican II churches are a disgrace. Its almost dogma that Catholics should support the capital punishment as means to protect the innocent from those who are beyond recovery.
 
Literally why? He KILLED someone. Would you turn a family member in if you found out they were fucking children? Because what that man did was pretty much just as evil. He ended a innocent mans life.
they're not 'just as evil'.
a murderer can in theory have reasonable or at least understandable motives. a child rapist can't.

So you would protect your family if one of them shot a person in the throat but would throw their asses in the slammer if they raped a woman?
depending on the context and details of the case, i would help and defend my son if he had committed murder. hide him, help him evade arrest, lie to the cops, etc.
in this particular case i would probably give him up though, because killing a man who did nothing wrong and didn't derserve to die is not justifiable to me.

So is rape to you like way worse than murder?
depends on the murder.
the thing with rape is, it's always wrong, there's never an excuse or justification for it.
with murder it's different, i can easily think of situations where i would consider murder justified.
 
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