/r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

I take back (most of) the stuff I said about Millennium Dawn. This puppet system is ASS. It's so fucking ass, like holy shit, I can't play as Russia without tag switching over to Canada, Zimbabwe, or whatever other shithole just so I can get the fucking US's or PRC's influence under 80, and if I don't notice? Fuck you, they get puppeted + a civil war. Mindboggling how there isn't a gamerule to make puppeting player specific.
Other than that, I don't know if it's a mod I'm using or base MD but there's this fucking rageinducing national spirit called "very high interest rates" that just fucking TANKS your stability and economy. That's not mentioning bullshit like Gaddafi using his family system to get himself into a civil war by the early 2000's, which was so annoying that I went into the mod files and made it so he got the BEST outcome for every family-related decision and he still got into a civil war because of the interest rate stability debuff.
Then there's the mindboggling stuff like AI America not having the invasion of Afghanistan decision despite having the option to invade Iraq, like... It's so retarded. To put it simply, I have no Sneed, and I must MATI.

The worst part is, an MD multiplayer game sounds so fun because noone would be randomly puppeting and doing autistic AI shit but it's HOI4 MP, so at the end of the day you'll still have to deal with bullshit like desync. I don't even remember it being THIS bad last time I played MD earlier this year.
I've never been very active in the HOI4 modding community, so I don't know if this is the usual opinion, but Millenium Dawn is probably one of the worst mods I've played in my entire life, especially given how popular it is.

Also, has anyone played 'A Very British Civil War'? I played as Ulster and it was very fun despite some unfinished paths.
 
I've never been very active in the HOI4 modding community, so I don't know if this is the usual opinion, but Millenium Dawn is probably one of the worst mods I've played in my entire life, especially given how popular it is.
I ENJOYED playing MD, because I like sitting around and watching Green Line Go UpTM, but when historical AI isn't even historical (Right wing populist Netherlands leaving NATO in a test run), it's not fun. When I say I want historical AI, I want to play The Water Falls up until I want to blow shit up, not the poor man's version of The Fire Rises. There should be a hard-historical and a soft-historical mode, where the latter makes the AI follow historical focuses but lets election results depend on popularity, and the former makes it so every election ends with the historical result.
 
I take back (most of) the stuff I said about Millennium Dawn. This puppet system is ASS. It's so fucking ass, like holy shit, I can't play as Russia without tag switching over to Canada, Zimbabwe, or whatever other shithole just so I can get the fucking US's or PRC's influence under 80, and if I don't notice? Fuck you, they get puppeted + a civil war. Mindboggling how there isn't a gamerule to make puppeting player specific.
In CW:IC, there’s an influence mechanic, but I have never seen the AI make use of it. There is a lot of room for shenanigans, like making the majority of your economy leeching from other countries, or straight up colonialism.
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Like a lot of things in CW:IC, it is very underbaked, so it’ll be reworked into something less broken. (:optimistic: for any updates at all really)
 
In CW:IC, there’s an influence mechanic, but I have never seen the AI make use of it. There is a lot of room for shenanigans, like making the majority of your economy leeching from other countries, or straight up colonialism.
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Like a lot of things in CW:IC, it is very underbaked, so it’ll be reworked into something less broken.
Gibsist economics.
(:optimistic: for any updates at all really)
I think that the China update is out already, but only on their git or something like that and not on Steam, idk why
 
This is mainly because the NSM is the least fleshed out tag in the mod. They will get a total overhaul (which devs have gone on record to say is most likely coming after 1.1).
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The NSM are dull to play, but boy, can they pump out equipment once they secure their position. They have a lovely setup with their mix of mils and civs.
I always thought it would be an interesting idea if they were the industrial base of the National Front, and PF were the manpower. The power struggle of supply vs. material could be interesting if you implemented it into the power struggle mechanic within NF.

Personally I am very much looking forward to the Cascadian update, whenever it comes out, looks like it will be fun. I’m a little sad that they don’t seem too interested in fleshing Deseret out though, I want my Lockheed sponsored Mormon supersoldiers dammit!
 
I've never been very active in the HOI4 modding community, so I don't know if this is the usual opinion, but Millenium Dawn is probably one of the worst mods I've played in my entire life, especially given how popular it is.

Also, has anyone played 'A Very British Civil War'? I played as Ulster and it was very fun despite some unfinished paths.
I ENJOYED playing MD, because I like sitting around and watching Green Line Go UpTM, but when historical AI isn't even historical (Right wing populist Netherlands leaving NATO in a test run), it's not fun. When I say I want historical AI, I want to play The Water Falls up until I want to blow shit up, not the poor man's version of The Fire Rises. There should be a hard-historical and a soft-historical mode, where the latter makes the AI follow historical focuses but lets election results depend on popularity, and the former makes it so every election ends with the historical result.
MD benefited of beong one of the first even before KR. It was amazing how fast it was made really. It was also one of the first to add several ideologies and proved you could do that. It was passable at the time but many copy-cat mods came out and in order to not have a tard-fightthey combined into one mod. A mistake as nations like the UK and France still have their 2016 on release focus tree while Fiji has a giant updated focus tree. And what is it with faggots and Fiji? TNO also had total Fiji love too.
 
California is a lot redder and New England is a lot bluer than what most people think, just look at the 2024 Presidential map. California content in particular is really reductive in TFR, and it's definitely made by someone who's never lived there and for whom California is just "haha funni gangs and commies." Like think about it, despite being one of the most populated and wealthy states in the Union, California has nothing except a generic democrat faction, a generic republican faction, the commies, and then just dozens of gangs.

There are a lot of extremely interesting factions, many of which are right wing, that can be added to California. Just off the top of my head, Bethel Church (Pentecostal extremism to contrast the Baptist extremism in the South) and the Jefferson 51st State movement (powerful militia even in real life) should all be existing factions.
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If anything The APLA would start in Philly and grow stronger but again this is just for realism. I know you are 100% right since the commies spawn in the cities in Cali especially LA/Hollywood but outright of right-wing masturbation and schizo shit those types are progressive libs who still very much support capitalism. Not the likes of the APLA that range from American nazbols and tankies to "DECOLONIZE NOW YTMAN!" Philly is where Antifa has its biggest support and even where the modern fag flag comes from. If I were to suggest a proposal its that the APLA should have NYC, Philly, and NJ just from being in the crosshairs. The reason they do not do this is you are right next to JOE motherfukcing BIDEN. My own retarded proposal further would then be that the APLA should start in the same faction as Biden's America especially if you decided to side with the anarchists focus. I like that already you can invite certain tags into your faction and realistically that is how it would be. Patriot front and even NSM and League of the South all IRL have both sided with and defended Trump and MAGA while also wanting to be a more radical alternative. Would not be out of order to have a mechanic for influence or a balance of power where after the war where you can either coup or annex one of the other tags or your collation breaks down and the second fight continues for the true soul of Amerikkka.

But I am some idiot online. In reality the set up while not realistic serves good balance. The south basically is its own region of the klan, los, new afrika, attom waffen. The APLA exists to basically eat up the other tags and then open up a second front on Trump and Texas. Patriot Front and the NSM serve as a mirror to this being right wingers on the east coast whom after they take over New England and Detroit will try to distract Biden with a second front. Its actually well balanced for gameplay which I care more about. We've seen what happens when the realism bug bites devs and would rather have fun. For instance if realistic then zigger mongoloid brains would need to be nerfed to what they are IRL as they can't take Ukraine IRL while it only gets lend lease from the west. TFR highly competent washes Dimitri and Russia with its broken ass buffs but its more important for fun.
 
A conversion zooming the entire map in to North America? I’d definitely give it a try.
This was pretty much exactly what BTWH was going to do for its 2ACW, BTW - the final map was just North America, albeit obviously all about the American states with Mexico & Canada as bit players. It was a cool concept, shame it had to be in the hands of such a shit team.
 
Happy (late) 700 pages!
The next TFR webcomic short has dropped, introducing the new characters shown before. At the end it was announced that Chapter 2 will be coming in the next few months, and that there are still a couple more shorts currently being worked on which will be released before that.

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Ok but when does Heydrich hang Himmler from the Eiffel Tower? Cinema ain't what it used to be. Now it's just about nobodies with hurt fee fees and boo boos.
The Charlie Kirk shooter *allegedly* had TNO downloaded on his PC :story:
Deradicalization tool, everyone
It deradicalized by keeping ingrates entertained with the map game. But now it's so boring that it can't distract the proles from murder anymore. :stress:
 
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