Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

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01169 dijo:
That was a decent statement but I don't understand how anyone would still cling to this notion of "being left". Like I get it I used to be in the same boat and for me the 2015 sex attacks in Cologne were THE eye opener. But if these morons are wrong about so many things why would they then be right about economical stuff etc.?
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I am "Left" because I believe Marx's interpretation of history is correct. I believe his explanation of how value is created, flows, is expropriated, etc is correct. I believe his theory on base/superstructure is correct. I don't believe in "democracy" as the formal concept we all practice in the West.

I am "Left" because I believe in strengthening workers rights and advocating for workers autonomy, free association, and socialization of productive industry.

None of the modern "Left" believe in any of that. The modern "Left" is just a new Caesarism but for the socially and sexually malcontent.

That said, I don't actively "identify" as Left in social or online spaces. If someone wants to talk to me about politics then I will discuss topic by topic. I won't advertise "I'm a Leftist" as a blanket term.

Marx and Lenin and Orwell each pointed out that the narcissists of the world, the authoritarians, etc will call themselves "Marxists" or "Socialists" because of the cache it grants them in spite of not being either.
 
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byron dijo:
I'm curious how you get into a university carrying - not just a generic gun - a giant-ass WWII long rifle. It's not like you can collapse the stock. It's not like it fits in a backpack.

And on a university, if anyone sees even a glimpse of a rifle like that, they flip the fuck out. How was he not seen before the shooting?
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From what I read on various sources, the rifle was wrapped in a towel, and he came from the back and climbed on the roof. He could've been spotted while doing that, but he apparently wasn't, so I can only assume there was no one out there.
 
Argos dijo:
Someone in the old thread wanted to know why Kirk's death is perceived to be a turning point. I think it's because he wasn't a politician or Hollywood A-list celebrity, for whom the threat of violence comes with the territory. He was political, yes, but lots of people are. He said provocative things, but again, lots of people do. In the end, he was just a guy who went around talking to people and having debates. Theoretically, anyone can do that.

Which means anyone can be killed like him.

And that can really strike home for folks.
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It's different than Richard Spencer getting punched or James Fields gettting railroaded, because with those guys, the best reaction you could get from the normie-right is, "Yeah, they sure got treated unfairly, but they were also total disphits who loved Hitler, played stupid games and won stupid prizes." Charlie Kirk, by contrast, is just like the average normiecon. He didn't sperg out about Jews, he made a lot of arguments for capitalism and traditional marriage, he didn't give quarter to trannies, and he was willing to hit the race, immigration, and crime problems slightly more directly than normies felt safe saying in public, but said what they were thinking. When he took a bullet in the throat, and the left cheered in response, tens of millions of Americans thought, "Holy shit, they want me dead, too!"
 
johnny johnny yes papa dijo:
Did you forget the guy who livestreamed himself shooting up the mosques in Australia?
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Except that guy was trying to draw attention to himself. This guy clearly wasn't. I can't see someone being smart enough to avoid leaving prints, wear a disguise, somehow get the rifle on the roof, and make this kind of one in a million shot but then be stupid enough to act like a lolcow once it's all over.
 
Book Thief dijo:
I have been informed by many on your side of the aisle that "Freedom of Speech is not Freedom From Consequences."



I got you, fren.
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>the best outcome would be the killer getting away with it
kind of crazy the things you can and can't just get away with saying on that shitty ass platform.
 
GlupShitto dijo:
Except that guy was trying to draw attention to himself. This guy clearly wasn't. I can't see someone being smart enough to avoid leaving prints, wear a disguise, somehow get the rifle on the roof, and make this kind of one in a million shot but then be stupid enough to act like a lolcow once it's all over.
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Because trannies are mentally ill, it's really as simple as that. Even if it's not a troon no sane person does this.
 
The shirts ultimate source may be DVNF.org, which is a charity for disabled veterans. Archived here is a donation link where you can get a similar one. This one is white and has a different pattern, but generally resembles the shooter's shirt- and I didnt thoroughly scrub the website for a black counterpart. This doesn't mean he got the shirt from there, he probably just as likley thrifted it or bought it off ebay.
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Furthermore on this, different sellers of the same shirt on ebay have DNVF stickers on them.
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byron dijo:
I'm curious how you get into a university carrying - not just a generic gun - a giant-ass WWII long rifle. It's not like you can collapse the stock. It's not like it fits in a backpack.

And on a university, if anyone sees even a glimpse of a rifle like that, they flip the fuck out. How was he not seen before the shooting?
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My money's on him planting it up there the night beforehand or maybe even having someone plant it there for him. I'm really starting to think it's a Mossad agent because Charlie was seemingly at risk of turning the normies against Israel.
 
Orange_Juiche dijo:
One thing I noticed on those roll-up lists of all the grave dancers: they’re ~70% college girlies, 20% non-white men, and the remainder are almost all that creepy safe sleazy male feminist type or gay. Like a drunk paraplegic at the bar demanding you take this outside so he can kick your ass after he spits on you.

Even after years of being exposed to this shit, it still mind fucks me to see just how many of these people cheering death are themselves wildly unable to project any personal physical force. Most of our civilizational structures were ultimately designed as a way to avoid men using violence as a way to settle disputes over governance - and yet somehow we find ourselves in a situation where all the ones capable of violence are on one side being hamstrung by opponents who can’t open a pickle jar but are adept at abusing the “violence alternative” systems that increasingly have no purpose. Why play along with voting and get overruled by Lilith the troon, Akshit the anchor baby, Madea from HR, and Issac the gay Jew when you could just kick their asses and say “lol no”? I think a lot of younger men will be wondering this soon if nothing changes.
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Because they literally think that it's going to be North VS South again but with more DeShawns and Miguels and that farmer or laborer from Michigan or Indiana is going to pick up a rifle to shoot the farmer or laborer from Louisiana or Georgia.
 
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