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Getting women into the workforce was only ever about generating dual-income families so they could rape the average household twice as hard

you also have to look at it this way:
woman at home - everything she does, all the value she creates stays with her and her family
woman at workplace - company profits from her labor, state takes a cut from her salary (tax)

cook meals at home - low expenses, just ingredients from the store
buy takeout or eat out because work leaves no time to cook - much more expensive, and all that money generates taxable revenue for restaurants

raise your kids yourself - no money changes hands at all
pay a nanny or daycare to handle your kjds becaue you need to be at work - big taxable revenue for daycare, or taxable income for nanny

clean your house yourself - zero cost
hire a cleaning lady cause you're working all the time - that's taxable income for her

mow your own lawn - free
hire a gardener - business transaction, taxable income for him


a houswife generates ton of value, but it's not taxable because it's not in the form of monetary transactions, so the state has a strong financial incentive in dismantling that whole lifestyle and replacing it with a bunch of commercial transactions that are all subject to taxation.
and on the business side, tapping into that part of the population means a big increase in the labor supply, which means a big decline in wages. big $$$ for the companys bottom line.
 
Yeah. Nature provided everything they needed. They didn't need to expand out nearly as much. Food is everywhere, and so is shelter. It doesn't snow or anything, so shelter doesn't have to be that sophisticated. Its a lazy lifestyle.
the video i posted does go into that. he discusses how africans think that it's fine to throw garbage on the ground because the animals will eat the plastic bags and water bottles and it's food for them.

the average african literally does not have the level of intellect required to understand that plastic is not a source of nutrition for animals. there is no drive in the african people to advance humanity or even their own race, even when you take them out of africa (with small outliers not withstanding of course.)
 
Getting women into the workforce was only ever about generating dual-income families so they could rape the average household twice as hard
Plus with two working parents, the children could be put into government funded preschools and daycares, preventing family bonding and maximizing chances for indoctrination.
 
Why do you think that the US Government just gave them a turbo boost?
I'm curious what this will be long term. What does 10% of Intel mean? Sure they gave them cash now, but does the president or some appointed official get a seat at board? If Intel continues to falter because they won't put CEOs in place that are passionate about engineering and their products, how much tax payer money does Intel get access to?
 
there is something keeping africans from actually making a continent the way other races did, and i literally cannot tell you what it is, just notice that it's missing.
Oh, I can tell you right now. I brought up geography earlier. Sub-Saharan Africa has basically no way to get out of the continent and travelling it in any significant degree without a lot of technology is exceedingly difficult. You can't navigate the rivers, there's very little natural harbors, there's no native pack animals, and the disease barrier kept everyone else out of the area on top of it all. So when Ancient Rome invents and perfects things like "concrete," "plowing," or "basic infrastructure," Africa stays pretty much ignorant of it all through isolation, and this impediment just stacks on top of itself over and over and over again until Shaka Zulu's getting his troops perforated by the Maxim gun fielded by soldiers with effectively centuries of tactical and equipment development and quinine to not die from malaria.

In short, let's plop down prehistoric man. He's got nothing and knows nothing. Let's see what he can do in... *throws dart at dartboard* ... France.

He can farm.
He can yoke cattle.
Trade is relatively plentiful and he can go a lot of places between walking or sailing.
If Germany invents something, he'll find out about it relatively quickly whether because Germans trade with him or elect to come over and conquer him.

Meanwhile in Sub-Saharan Africa...

You can't farm between steppes that need tools and jungles that aren't farmable without removal with tools you don't have.
You can't get cattle to carry your shit around.
You can't leave.
You can't get any news about anything anyone's developing.
You can't really do anything about the geography limiting you.
You pretty much have the options of hunt and gather or die.

No one's developing any intellectual capital here except at an extremely low rate simply because any piece of tech Africa could want, THEY need to invent. Meanwhile a British colonial soldier has clothes made with the intellectual contributions of innumerable people, anti-malarials with a litany of medical science behind them with contributions from a lot of people, gunpowder invented in China and perfected by Americans and Europeans of all stripes, tactics honed by history written on by all sorts of cultures and generals, so on and so forth. Northern Africa and the coastal areas of the Middle East largely benefit from a few trade routes and being attached to the Mediterranean, a source of both an excellent diet and many trade opportunities and general exposure to other nations from whence lessons can be learned. So when you say this...
you don't even need to be that modern. when africans were discovered by european colonial powers, they had no empires, they had no sprawling territories, they had no real weapons beyond the basic spears and bow and arrow implements they used (slings and other similar tech too of course) and they had no idea how to fight any kind of mid or large-scale war, or even any idea of long-term betterment of their natural surroundings for the easement of their day to day activities.
... my first thought is, "Well no shit. If no one's going to be able to get to Sub-Saharan Africa to let them know something like a plow exists, where are they gonna learn it from?" Shaka Zulu doesn't even have a concept of what a firearm is, to such a degree dum-dum bullets needed to be invented just to make it clear that getting shot is a very bad thing, and you should stop charging when you get shot.
this came up in a conversation with a friend of mine recently. africans have no word to describe the concept of maintenance. the very basic idea doesn't exist in african societies.
My simple answer is that African culture has progressed at such a snail's pace due to being locked away from the rest of the world for so long, being utterly unaware of basically anything going on beyond their immediate surroundings, there genuinely has not been enough cultural progress to have anything that warrants such a concept. Normally, when you have such a sheer gap of development, the better developed culture conquers the other. Think like Ancient Rome going after the ancient Britons. For a time, Britain was doing this in Africa, and it was working. Colonial troops quashed tribal rivalries and instituted British legal norms overriding any native culture there. But then WWII happened, the empire had to start setting just because there weren't enough bodies anymore, and no one should be surprised that if you give a bunch of highly tribal people who didn't have much more than a bow AK-47's... they go on a bit of a tear to say the least... lest we forget the genocides in Rwanda were done with machetes.
the average african literally does not have the level of intellect required to understand that plastic is not a source of nutrition for animals. there is no drive in the african people to advance humanity or even their own race, even when you take them out of africa (with small outliers not withstanding of course.)
Here's a pop quiz question. Do they even know what plastic is? I don't mean if you hand them a bottle, could they tell you it's plastic, I mean if you asked them to describe what a plastic item fundamentally is, do you think they could even begin to answer the question? Given Rhodesia and South Africa have fallen decades ago, while we live in a 21st century understand, I'd be generous in saying Africa's in a 17th century understanding at best.
 
I'm curious what this will be long term. What does 10% of Intel mean? Sure they gave them cash now, but does the president or some appointed official get a seat at board? If Intel continues to falter because they won't put CEOs in place that are passionate about engineering and their products, how much tax payer money does Intel get access to?
It ensures 10% of stability. 10% will not jump off a cliff if they dare innovate.
 
The west gives them everything. Food, clothes, everything. And nature provides pretty much everything. They don't need to adapt. Besides, the smart ones end up leaving.
People forget that Africa did have empires with significant wealth like Mali, Songhai, and Mutapa. They may seem small on a map, but Africa is ridiculously large and these empires did control vast territories. The problem is they were wiped out by European conquest and subsequent colonialism has had lasting negative effects. I know the easy response is to denigrate Africans, and their modern leadership has had plenty of chances and aid to improve, but remember that Africa is huge. There are people living in the northern part of the Congo who don't even speak the same language group as people in the southern Congo, and may not have ever had any direct interaction due to the geographical barriers. Europe is roughly a third the size of Africa and not even the Romans managed to fully conquer Europe.

I'm sure people will disagree with what I'm saying here but the reality is it's a huge place with a bazillion different ethnic groups, languages, and motives.
 
there is something keeping africans from actually making a continent the way other races did, and i literally cannot tell you what it is, just notice that it's missing.
Climate. It didn't keep them from advancing so much as it allowed them not to advance. The harsher the climate the smarter you have to be to survive. Stupid people freeze to death before the smarter ones do allowing the smarter people a better chance to reproduce and pass on those beneficial traits. Science coined a phrase for this 150 years ago: evolution. Milder climates don't require higher intelligence to survive, only violence is needed to compete for available resources and so the more violent traits pass on due to the same evolutionary forces. Skin color is irrelevant.
 
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there is something keeping africans from actually making a continent the way other races did, and i literally cannot tell you what it is, just notice that it's missing.
The history of the evolution of the human species is to gtfo Africa. Whatever happened happened early on with modern ish humans, who did not evolve in Africa. Then later on other humans repopulated Africa and Africa has had metallurgy, agriculture, etc. Africa is both a bounty and a curse; flooded with diseases, only the strong survive, only the strong who care not for the future that is.

The Khoisan and the Australian Aboriginal are possibly the closest you can get to what premodern humans would have looked like and acted like.
 
People forget that Africa did have empires with significant wealth like Mali, Songhai, and Mutapa. They may seem small on a map, but Africa is ridiculously large and these empires did control vast territories. The problem is they were wiped out by European conquest and subsequent colonialism has had lasting negative effects. I know the easy response is to denigrate Africans, and their modern leadership has had plenty of chances and aid to improve, but remember that Africa is huge. There are people living in the northern part of the Congo who don't even speak the same language group as people in the southern Congo, and may not have ever had any direct interaction due to the geographical barriers. Europe is roughly a third the size of Africa and not even the Romans managed to fully conquer Europe.

I'm sure people will disagree with what I'm saying here but the reality is it's a huge place with a bazillion different ethnic groups, languages, and motives.
There were. Many of them sold the slaves to the colonies. Time wasn't kind to them. At all.
 
People forget that Africa did have empires with significant wealth like Mali, Songhai, and Mutapa. They may seem small on a map, but Africa is ridiculously large and these empires did control vast territories. The problem is they were wiped out by European conquest and subsequent colonialism has had lasting negative effects. I know the easy response is to denigrate Africans, and their modern leadership has had plenty of chances and aid to improve, but remember that Africa is huge. There are people living in the northern part of the Congo who don't even speak the same language group as people in the southern Congo, and may not have ever had any direct interaction due to the geographical barriers. Europe is roughly a third the size of Africa and not even the Romans managed to fully conquer Europe.

I'm sure people will disagree with what I'm saying here but the reality is it's a huge place with a bazillion different ethnic groups, languages, and motives.

and once contact was established over the sahara with the caliphates, most civilization in Africa was orientated towards supplying them, including with slaves

the climate sperging is dumb af though, where exactly is chiller and nicer than the mediterranean you dumbasses

like hello I am relaxing on a beautiful adriatic cove, I can cover all my nutritional needs from the sea, why should I go make an empire? and yet, they did

who made states and proto-states in the new world? the haida, who come from a harsh climate. the hawaiians and tongans and maori, who come from an awesome relaxing abundant one. the mayans and incans and aztecs, who possibly were so bad at farming that they had to eat people. it's just a dumb theory that completely falls apart if you look at actual history.
 
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I know the easy response is to denigrate Africans, and their modern leadership has had plenty of chances and aid to improve, but remember that Africa is huge. There are people living in the northern part of the Congo who don't even speak the same language group as people in the southern Congo, and may not have ever had any direct interaction due to the geographical barriers.
Pretty much. If anything you're not selling the issues enough, Africa has geographical barriers, biome barriers, disease barriers... the fact any empires managed to sprout there however small is a lowkey impressive exercise in growing literally anything out of a place dead set on making this the most difficult, tooth-pulling exercise possible.
 
Plus with two working parents, the children could be put into government funded preschools and daycares, preventing family bonding and maximizing chances for indoctrination.
Reminder that the Soviets were the first ones to figure this out and propagate it to the rest of the world. International Women's Day is unironically and unapologetically a communist invention
 
No one's developing any intellectual capital here except at an extremely low rate simply because any piece of tech Africa could want, THEY need to invent. Meanwhile a British colonial soldier has clothes made with the intellectual contributions of innumerable people, anti-malarials with a litany of medical science behind them with contributions from a lot of people, gunpowder invented in China and perfected by Americans and Europeans of all stripes, tactics honed by history written on by all sorts of cultures and generals, so on and so forth. Northern Africa and the coastal areas of the Middle East largely benefit from a few trade routes and being attached to the Mediterranean, a source of both an excellent diet and many trade opportunities and general exposure to other nations from whence lessons can be learned. So when you say this...
i can understand where you're coming from here, but native americans also have this same issue despite not having any of those issues. they simply never developed the things the Eurasian continents did. south americans had reached roughly ancient egyptian levels of tech, with considerably less metallurgical skill, and north american natives were on par with african natives. prior to worldwide trade, and in other european island nations, these things still evolved. the norse built massive boats and traveled to the new world before anyone else.

a motivated society can complete almost any project. africa's horrifically bad living conditions even compared to other places in the world during the colonial era and prior should have been a HUGE motivator to try and find new land, it certainly was for people in the north, even when they hadn't yet seen evidence of that existing. the drive to see what's out there is also consistently found within european and asian societies. exploration for exploration's sake. the desire to discover what else is out there, the desire to grow your group and expand out. how can one explain this lack of african empirical drive, when even compared to the native americans who were also plentifully provided for by nature they were completely sedentary?


... my first thought is, "Well no shit. If no one's going to be able to get to Sub-Saharan Africa to let them know something like a plow exists, where are they gonna learn it from?"
at some point, you'd imagine that a society would figure out irrigation, since every other society on earth seems to have intuited it at the dawn of history... except most of africa, where they had access to the NILE RIVER in the southeast, which is the most shithole part of the continent.


Shaka Zulu doesn't even have a concept of what a firearm is, to such a degree dum-dum bullets needed to be invented just to make it clear that getting shot is a very bad thing, and you should stop charging when you get shot.
the very fact that they could not comprehend the idea of being hurt from a distance even though they already had spears is not a positive indicator of inherent intelligence.


My simple answer is that African culture has progressed at such a snail's pace due to being locked away from the rest of the world for so long, being utterly unaware of basically anything going on beyond their immediate surroundings, there genuinely has not been enough cultural progress to have anything that warrants such a concept.
japan was basically completely isolated from the entire world before the last 400 years, only really being invaded. they did not have trouble with almost all of these concepts, up to and including having invented their own ranged weaponry and advancing it. it wasn't a gun, certainly, but they also immediately understood the concept of guns when introduced to them, and there are no records of the japanese thinking about guns as the africans did.


Colonial troops quashed tribal rivalries and instituted British legal norms overriding any native culture there. But then WWII happened, the empire had to start setting just because there weren't enough bodies anymore, and no one should be surprised that if you give a bunch of highly tribal people who didn't have much more than a bow AK-47's... they go on a bit of a tear to say the least... lest we forget the genocides in Rwanda were done with machetes.
india managed to maintain and utilize the british infrastructure given to them. as much as i hate giving credit to pajeets, they did at least manage to keep most of their raj infrastructure in working order until they knew how to build new ones. india is now a country capable of firing a nuclear weapon. south africa's white people were the only ones capable of that, and they denuclearized specifically so there would not be a black nation with nukes, and now the south africans cannot renuclearize because they don't know how, and can't afford to buy nukes from a nation that does.


lest we forget the genocides in Rwanda were done with machetes.
not to mention there are still places in africa that are UNDERGOING active civil war genocides between internal populations who hate their land borders, and every time any new group gets into power, it becomes a laughable mirror of the previous regime. for shit sake, niger is currently trying to litigate a piece of martian rock that they legally let leave the country, but now that it's valued at a high cost, they're suing to get it back saying it was smuggled out.


Do they even know what plastic is?
no. none of them could even describe grass or dirt or mud to me in that way. they do not care what things are made of, so they never learn. this stymies their learning in the future.

i wonder if the rumors of intel getting split up will be more or less likely now after this. does the government usually force companies it takes shares in this way to become some kind of subsidiary or something?
 
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