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Should be a wild four years.

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Like I said before, out of the wider context, it is no problem. It's a good thing and I follow groups that do this sort of thing like HRANA. When you have Carlson saying things like I will not ask the president of Iran any questions that will be hard because I will not get an honest answer out of them, this doesn't show a commitment to truth but a pushing of ideology.

I do not understand how you cannot comprehend this. There is a difference between having a softball interview that's meant to promote someone who is the whipping boy of the Supreme council and the supreme leader and having an actual interview that asks difficult questions.
Half your posts in this thread is complaining about things Tucker never said and completely misrepresenting the whole conversations he has to spout some groyper pro Isreal shit. Then you have the audacity to act like you are the thread's ultimate authority on if Tucker's interviews are dangerous to the American people's worldview or if he's not mean enough to people Isreali's hate.

These interviews aren't about pwning Putin or the president of Iran, it's about letting them speak their mind and their point of view. Tucker will step in if they say something he knows is unquestionably false, if you watch enough of his interviews you notice that, but he isn't always trying to debate these people, that's why it's called an interview and not a debate. What you want is a political hit job, the kind that Trump has to deal with any time he does an interview with the MSM, which is what your kind of people specialize in.
 
Im still not fully over when our president declared a ceasefire via twitter without the consent of the 2 nations involved then told all the news channels to cut footage of the 2 areas in question.

For all we know the 2 places could be bombing each other daily but because we dont have AP or Reuters to confirm it how would we know its not just people on twitter making up shit?

I think we full live in a "post truth" era where there is no such thing as objectivity anymore and people will believe whatever is most expeditious or advantageous or easy in the moment without any consideration for the past or future to inform the action.

Whats objective fact now? a peer reviwed paper? you trust that acedimia isent beholden to the grant distributors and funding allocaters? Major news sources? All have been compromised. The consensus off the masses? its all manufactured, people dont meet and communicate en mass in real life so all online communication can be monitored and manipulated or even silenced.

take the trump tweet or the CNN article, either way you get the lie you wish to believe without anyway to verify yourself..
"actually, we don't know anything, because the media hasn't told us what to think about it. it's a post truth world!"

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Nigga seriously, do you think we live in China or some shit? Do you think Israel would stay quiet about being bombed by Iran just to "make trump look good", or some shit? Do you think Iran would just shut up if they were being bombed? Look, I don't disagree with your stance on institutions being captured, but you need to learn to read between the lines instead of just throwing up your arms and going "everything is a constructed matrix! there is no way to verify anything unless you see it yourself or the media tells you!" I'm hazing you a bit because this take comes off as retarded, but to be fair, most people that start to understand this sound retarded at first.

either way you get the lie you wish to believe without anyway to verify yourself..

Correct, now what do you do about it? The truth isn't gone, it's hidden in the lies. Learn how to find the truth in the lies. Learn why they say what they say, learn to recognize it when the entire media apparatus takes a singular stance all at once, and learn who is in control of the media. It's just that simple. Yeah, we're all being lied to, but not to the point that we can't determine the truth with a certain degree of certainty. At least for now.

Don't take it too hard bud, you're on the right path, but your current stance is kinda retarded.
 
He in no way gave him a softball interview, he let the man talk. I expect him to do the same with this goatfucker in Iran, and that's why i'm interested in it. Hell, it reminds me a lot of Bin Laden's letter to america that made the rounds last year on tiktok. I want to hear someone's reasoning behind their actions.
I expect something like this:


Tucker asks a fake "hard hitting question" that normies wouldn't know like "Why are you hosting Hamas in your country?" and the PM responds explaining that the reason that Hamas is in Qatar is because the US asked Qatar to host Hamas for negotiations. The PM stresses that just because Hamas is being hosted in their country doesn't mean that they support Hamas.

Now to the average consumer, this is a great answer because it deflects responsiblity from Qatar to the US. However, people who know the dynamics of the region can instantly call bullshit. Qatar doesn't just host Hamas, they fund Hamas and the greater Muslim Brotherhood. They're openly claiming to not support Hamas while giving them 1.8 billion dollars since 2007.

Tucker doesn't call him out on this, he lets it slide.

it's about letting them speak their mind and their point of view. Tucker will step in if they say something he knows is unquestionably false,
he clearly doesn't like in the example I just cited.

Tucker's platform is mainly to slowly introduce anti American ideals. Look at his recent interview with MTG where she openly stated that Iran sponsored terrorism against the US and killed our military but "we never belonged there in the first place" removing all agency from Iran

 
Is anyone else here just kinda... scared? Like it doesn't seem things will get better in the slighest. I'm scared and ashamed of what my country is doing but I am powerless to stop it.
If you're going to sit on your ass and wait for the gubmint to do something to make your life better I got bad news for you chief. If the strategy is "god I hope the government does something that makes my life easier" then you would've had a shit life in the 1950s, 1800s, and 1500s.

Also, wtf are you "ashamed" about? What reddit tier shitlib take is this? Are you ashamed of America's past? If so let me present to you the list of countries where you can freely live in that don't have troubling history:

Huh, that's strange....Nothing's there.

Oh, wait you mean you're ashamed about what the country is currently doing. Can you kindly tell me what the current administration is doing that's more shameful than getting stuck into a forever war with a casus belli that's an outright lie (WMDS), or leaving the border wide open letting millions of unknown people come into this nation, some of whom are undoubtedly terrorists and gangsters.

Now of course other presidents acting retarded isn't an excuse for Trump, but compared to the last few admins we've had Trump definitely has a overall better track record than most within the previous 40 years. Not starting any new wars is a big one, since having our own countrymen being killed over bullshit is one of the most disgraceful sins of modern America.
 
So is the solution to move to the Rust Belt?
The solution to what? The problem seems to be in your head.
I suggest you go outside and touch some grass, then get a job. If you free yourself from being dependent on gibs and government programs then what happens down in DC wont matter so much.
 
Is anyone else here just kinda... scared? Like it doesn't seem things will get better in the slighest. I'm scared and ashamed of what my country is doing but I am powerless to stop it.
Never be ashamed of something you did not do.
I'm assuming you're American, but are you the president, a state representative, a governor, a mayor?
If not, then I doubt anything YOU have done is noticeable on a global scale. Chill.

Think small. Manage your own household, be aware of your neighbors and town.
Until something in your life changes and affects YOU directly, just watch and wait.
 
You know why is it that everytime these people come up with insults for America they just make us sound cooler. Like the name “the great satan” sounds like the name of a 90s heavy metal band.
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Also America is so evil that every single group on the planet wants to migrate here.
 
Now to the average consumer, this is a great answer because it deflects responsiblity from Qatar to the US. However, people who know the dynamics of the region can instantly call bullshit. Qatar doesn't just host Hamas, they fund Hamas and the greater Muslim Brotherhood. They're openly claiming to not support Hamas while giving them 1.8 billion dollars since 2007.
I agree, he should have pushed him to explain why Israel was so permissive of this transfer, and how much came directly from Israel. It's a known fact that bibi and his party funded hamas, but exactly how is sort of iffy.


We are retreading the same ground here, and I don't want to derail this even further though.
 
Tucker asks a fake "hard hitting question" that normies wouldn't know

Tucker's platform is mainly to slowly introduce anti American ideals.
I'm so glad he's being called out on all this bullshit, i sensed it 10 year ago when he started popping up but couldn't quite put into words what he was doing.

There's a very real right wing "isolationist > disarm ourselves" pipeline that i think is going to be the next big subversion approach of the west now that raw leftism is finally getting the axe. Tulsi Gabbard is in a similar boat and one reason i've never liked her.

The answer to many of tucker's bullshit questions is "because we can and they can't do shit about it". Or more specifically "by killing those towelheads with a drone there's a .0001% chance it makes us safer and it costs us absolutely nothing to do. And there's a 100% chance it prevented many children from being raped so that's an added bonus". Any actual pro american should be okay with that, but he will dance around with all sorts of logical fallacies

"Well but what if it invokes a counter attack?"
Bullshit. The turd world respects fear and consequences, nothing else. Islam wants the world to submit, if we appease them now we will appease them to the moment the caliphate beheads us. China believes they're the middle kingdom, indians are the most self righteous people on earth, africans are africans and so on.

"But the cost?"
Most of this shit is already built and is slowly becoming outdated for war against a conventional foe like the chinese.

"What gives us the right?"
Because we can lumpface.

"look at this other country that benefits"
Good for them.

"What if it does lead to boots on the ground?"
This is the only valid concern but he always packages it in with "LEAVE THE MOSLEMS ALOOONE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!". No, the answer to this question is "if we are forced to put boots on the ground we will do so in a warlike fashion, no mercy, no concern for civilian casualties, no holds barred, the safety of our men is our only priority other than achieving the objective. We will go scorched earth in such a way that makes the IDF's actions in Gaza look like a red cross mission". Every US military disaster from mogadishu to afghanistan has been directly the result of trying to hold back and play nice in an attempt at nation building. It has been made explicitly clear that when we treat military action like it's an actual war we can achieve near 0 casualty rates and be done very quickly. I'm still not saying we should run into war just for the fuck of it, but having a military you openly admit you're afraid to use is pointless.

Tucker carlson is a complete coward faggot who would sit in the cuck chair as arabs stormed across europe and chinks rushed into DC. He's one of the only people I actually believe may be a russian shill or more likely a secret muslim convert.
 
Israeli born. If you're an Israeli citizen but live in America, you do not have to do the mandatory service in the IDF. My friends son is going through this process now, you just go to the consulate and get a letter from the Israeli government saying you can avoid service but you cannot spend more than 3 months in Israel at a time or you will be detained.
So if you don't serve, and get a deferment, but later on apply for asylum in Israel as a jew, do you have serve then?

Fatpacks you seem more optimistic than me honestly,
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The best I think Dems will do in the Senate, and they may squeak 220ish seats in the House
Georgia has consistently elected republican senators since 2000 except for 2020...
North Carolina has consistently elected republican senators since 2015, the only democrat to win without incumbency did so in 08

2020 was a fluke (if we're being liberal) and outright theft (if we're being honest). The south east has seen the largest amount of ICE raids. If anywhere is going to go red, and allow GOP retention of the senate, it'll be the two states with a track record of voting red.
 
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