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Should be a wild four years.

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By restricting and increasing the wages to a near match of actual citizens, it prevents the pajeets ONLY advantage, cheap labor. This is all it takes.
Easy solution. Just hire them in India, no need to bring them here. (This is called offshoring)
 
"No government or social system is so evil that their people must be considered lacking in virtue"
-John F Kennedy

fuck it, Ill speak on the Jeets defense. Ive worked with many of them over the years and most of what you all have to say is true in a vacuum but I wanna say 2 things in there defense.

1. There is 1 and a half BILLION of them, if you deleted 500 million you still have nearly a billion of ONE billion people. Ive met lots of shitty whites and Americans to and there is only 300 million of them. All that to say odds are when you interact with ANY person by sheer odds they are going to kinda suck and cause there is SO many Indians I feel that "average" feels distorted. Met one playing chess one time ( I know ladies keep your panties on) and guy blew me away, he was younger 20s and finished his masters in engineering and was going for a double master in biology to go into bio engineering, his whole family had saved for his whole life to send him to America, he was soft spoken with decent english, kind (did smell bad, 2/3 aint bad tho) and beat the snot out of everyone there at chess, including me.

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not even 80 years after being a colonial subject they have a larger economy than their former colonial overlord, you can say watever you want, thats damn impressive and worth being proud of your nation, also check out that year over year GDP growth, knocking on the door of double digits.

There are lots of legitimate reasons to criticize India but they are not without merit
GDP does not directly equate to success, or power. Their GDP is a direct result of how many shitrats they have providing slavelabor. GDP just means there's a bunch of transactions happening. Even that screenshot includes their GDP per capita being about 5% of the UK's which is just fucking embarrassing. India as a single political entity only exist because the UK forced them to behave, and it's not certain if that will last indefinitely. It's also much larger.

More than that though, everything about their civilization is dependant on the international system the USA enforces via maritime security and such. Same for china and most of asia really. There's a huge difference between being able to successfully play by the rules, and being able to actually CREATE those rules as britain did, and the US took over on.

The fact that india surpassed the UK in raw gdp is not remarkable whatsoever, what's remarkable is that england managed to colonize them to begin with, while also doing so to damn near the entire world.
not even 80 years after being a colonial subject
Nigger are you really going to act like that's not an enormous amount of time? Have you seen what Japan, Korea, hell the fucking united states was able to accomplish in decades after such?
 
Regardless letting the Jeet flood in at all is bad, it doesn't matter if they get paid more and need actual qualifications and not fakes.
If companies have to pay 2x more to hire a jeet, there won't be a flood of them, and Trump never ran as a racial hygenicist who promised to cleanse the country of all miscegenated individuals. If America can't survive even a single Indian entering the country, then it just can't survive.
 
Uh oh, USPG2... It begins. The rats are jumping ship.

The Hill: "Trump gets unlikely visitors at White House: Democrats" (archive)
President Trump in recent weeks has seen an uptick of unlikely visitors at the White House and his Florida home at Mar-a-Lago: Democrats.

The latest example came last week when Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser appeared in the Oval Office, all but discarding the hard-edged approach she took with Trump during his first administration.

Bowser was the second prominent Democrat in the room in a month.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer appeared at the White House in April, even if she was caught on camera hiding behind a binder.

Earlier this year, Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) traveled to Palm Beach to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

Democrats observing the trend said members of their party have to work with Trump on some issues, even if some — like Whitmer — may not want to be caught on camera at a particular time.

“As odious as Democrats find Trump himself, they still have to navigate the world as it is,” said Democratic strategist Jamal Simmons, who served as an aide to former Vice President Kamala Harris. “Everybody is trying to figure it out in a way that’s best for them.”

“It’s a strange new world, and the normal rules don’t seem to apply,” Simmons added.

It is a delicate dance for Democrats, who are tempted to take the resistance movement to a whole new level but are also mindful about the meaning behind the results of November’s election.

Democrats lost not only the White House but also both chambers of Congress last year.

Since then, Democrats have tried to rebuild their party and have sought to rethink their strategy, including their approach with Trump. The party continues to be split on what the right tack is. And some, like Whitmer — who also appeared alongside the president at a recent event in Michigan — believe it makes some sense for them to work together with Trump on specific policy issues.

“Her second meeting with Trump proved that these encounters are intentional,” one Democratic strategist said. “She knows exactly what she’s doing by going to the White House and also appearing on stage with him a short time later.

“That’s not coincidental,” the strategist said. “She’s fully aware of the pitfalls and the criticism she’ll receive for doing so, but she’s doing it anyway.”

Whitmer isn’t the only Democrat who has indicated a willingness — however slight — to work with Trump.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom met the president at the airport in January to ask for his help on the wildfires that ravaged the Golden State. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul and New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy also have met with the president and dialed him up on certain issues.

Rep. Jared Golden (D-Maine), who represents a Republican-leaning district, has also defended Trump’s tariff policies, becoming one of the few House Democrats to support the president on the issue.

But some Democrats have taken the polar opposite tack with Trump. They say his first administration was bad enough. Now, they find the way he’s governing as detestable and horrifying and they refuse to work with him.

In a speech late last month, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, for example, urged Democrats to take on Trump in mass protests.

“Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption. But I am now,” he said in the speech in New Hampshire. “These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace. They have to understand that we will fight their cruelty with every megaphone and microphone that we have.

“We must castigate them on the soapbox and then punish them at the ballot box,” he added.

As Democrats search for answers on how to deal with Trump, Democratic strategist Eddie Vale said the best approach is anybody’s guess.

“It is a known unknown as Donald Rumsfeld would say,” Vale said. “The Democratic base — along with quite a few independents and Republicans — are virulently anti-Trump, and there are many examples of people thinking they could get something from Trump and it blowing back on them.”

Still, Vale added that “the next presidential primary is going to be a never-ending obsession with electability and by then, many Democratic primary voters may feel differently about what is best for winning back Biden/Trump voters.”

At the same time, some Democratic strategists warn that aligning with Trump, even in the smallest ways, will come back to haunt those like Whitmer with bigger political aspirations.

“I would encourage these Democrats to reflect a fighting posture to keep credibility,” one top strategist said. “You cannot be seen as an appeaser. That’s not going to age well.

“Mark my words: Down the road, it ain’t going to be a good look,” the strategist added.
Can you imagine if Trump deals with all the lolbertarians in the GOP by courting enough Democrats to get whatever he wants in Congress?

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US debt is a tad shy of $37 TRILLION. We'll be lucky to clear it in 3 or 4 or 5 decades. All the tariffs and remittances in the world will hardly put a dent in it.
It's not about paying it off, the goal should never be to pay it off entirely. The government being indebted to its own citizens is one of the checks and balances that keeps the fed in line, and it also solves a more practical logistical problem:

All money is an "i owe you" from the government, and debt is also an "i owe you" from the government, so when the US fed is buying things from its own citizens (remember 70% of the national debt is owed to US citizens and companies) giving them a dollar and calling it done the way you and I can with each other, doesn't really cut it. You have to make a small piece of your actual power dependent on them, like selling stock, so the "i owe you" actually has merit.

For the fed, money and debt is the same thing.
 
The powers that be will nuke the world before Trump gets a Nobel Peace Prize.
I suppose that's true. But I was also supposed to be a clown shaped stain on the ground days ago! I had a funny group pose prepared with the circus gang and everything. We decided on imitating the Pulitzer prize winning photo of Don holding his fist in the air! We held the pose for hours!

Can you imagine if Trump deals with all the lolbertarians in the GOP by courting enough Democrats to get whatever he wants in Congress?
I can see it so clearly now, Johnny.

"Okay so we saw you light up the Middle East with the American Flag, we know we've had our DIFFERENCES, but how-" Then Melania pulls the lever to drop them into the moat full of gold armored Floridian crocodiles. If they can escape with their lives THEN they can have their audience.
 
"Okay so we saw you light up the Middle East with the American Flag, we know we've had our DIFFERENCES, but how-" Then Melania pulls the lever to drop them into the moat full of gold armored Floridian crocodiles. If they can escape with their lives THEN they can have their audience.
I thought Florida has alligators, not crocodiles?
 
I have noticed an inversion of past presidents. Carter the peanut farmer seems to be venerated by the youngins for a while now while Reagan is being treated more like the devil, even by younger rightists. If you ask an old timer there would probably be nothing but venom being spat out while they spoke of Carter but praise of Reagan.
You can also throw FDR and Obama into that mix, they seem to be getting more critics as the times change.
 
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