Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Trump has got to be at the end of his patience by now. If the apprentice has taught me anything it's that he can be very forgiving and give people more then one chance to succeed if you show potential and energy. Things zelensky actually does have. But if you keep fucking up and repeatedly do stupid shit he'll drop you like a hot potato. I can't imagine trump putting up with him indirectly threatening to kill xi and Putin.

He's not going to live a long and rich life that's for sure.
 
Michael Wade dijo:
I can't imagine trump putting up with him indirectly threatening to kill xi and Putin.
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Or worse, imagine they lope over a drone or two and force Xi to evacuate. Of course, I'm sure that in Z's head, he's thinking "Ah yes this will damage Chinese relations and push the allies apart" instead of cementing a position with China of "Ukraine is insane" and the following support Putin would get. You can't really claim "Oops, we didn't know your leader would be there" after pointing out that he'll be there, and when it comes to playing the game of pushing allegiances, killing the neutral parties leader fell out of favor somewhere in the Iron Age due to its dismal outcomes.
 
Gondolindrim dijo:
It's kind of disturbing that multiple militaries around the world are using Ukraine as a training ground and sending their guys in under cover to see how they do.
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The Spanish Civil War actually served in a similar capacity before WW2. A lot of those who took part or observed the war would go on to command armies or influence doctrine based on lessons learnt there.
 
UPDATE: Article is from 2022

An article in the Grayzone. It is very critical of the corruption.


Some choice quotes:
"Last month, Ukraine’s parliamentarians voted to give themselves a 70% salary increase. Filings indicate the raise was enabled and encouraged by the billions of dollars and euros of aid that have poured in from the US and Europe."

"Samantha Morris*, a doctor from Maine, went to Ukraine in May to try to help provide medical training for soldiers. “The first time I crossed the border from Poland, I had to hide my medical supplies under mattresses and diapers to prevent them from being stolen,” she said. “The border guards on the Ukrainian side will just take things, and tell you, ‘we need this for our war,’ but then, they just steal the items and resell them. Honestly, if you don’t hand-deliver donations to the intended recipients, the items will never reach them.”"

“The Sumy governor had a friend, a local businessman, and he demanded that this businessman be added to the contract as a ‘liaison’ between us and the city of Sumy. And as a liaison, he would get a percentage fee of the contract. Our lawyers tried to negotiate the businessman out of the contract, but the governor of Sumy wouldn’t budge. We ultimately just signed the contract so we could hold our trainings.”

“I got a call from a nurse at a military hospital in [the Ukrainian city of] Dnipro,” Morris recalled. “She said the president of the hospital had stolen all the pain medications to resell them, and that the wounded soldiers being treated there had no pain relief. She begged us to hand-deliver pain medications to her. She said she would hide them from the hospital president so that they’d reach the soldiers. But who can you trust? Was the hospital president really stealing the medications, or was she trying to con us into giving her pain medications for her to sell or use? Who knows. Everyone is lying.”

"I’d say 80% of the civilians who have stayed in Donbas support Russia and leak all of our location information to them."



UPDATE: Article is from 2022, sorry for posting such an old article. I let the post stand anyway.
 
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Trump has got to be at the end of his patience by now. If the apprentice has taught me anything it's that he can be very forgiving and give people more then one chance to succeed if you show potential and energy. Things zelensky actually does have. But if you keep fucking up and repeatedly do stupid shit he'll drop you like a hot potato. I can't imagine trump putting up with him indirectly threatening to kill xi and Putin.

He's not going to live a long and rich life that's for sure.
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Do you think this has anything to do with EU officials "forbiding" EU members - at least the compliant ones - to take part in the parade? Some large scale terrorist attack?
 
Meh123 dijo:
Do you think this has anything to do with EU officials "forbiding" EU members - at least the compliant ones - to take part in the parade? Some large scale terrorist attack?
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Probably not, it is probably more a "Putin will get mad and will start crying if we boycott his parade".

But an attack while both Putin and Xi are present? That would be insanely suicidal. Crazy enough that he might actually try it.
What on earth does he think that would lead to aside from legitimizing russia targeting unkranian leaders as well as any visiting western leaders in ukraine.

Do an attack while Xi is present. See what happens. You want china to be involved? This is how you get china involved.
 
Cuckoman dijo:
Probably not, it is probably more a "Putin will get mad and will start crying if we boycott his parade".

But an attack while both Putin and Xi are present? That would be insanely suicidal. Crazy enough that he might actually try it.
What on earth does he think that would lead to aside from legitimizing russia targeting unkranian leaders as well as any visiting western leaders in ukraine.

Do an attack while Xi is present. See what happens. You want china to be involved? This is how you get china involved.
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If they are retarded enough to attack the parade make sure to take screenshots of anyone who celebrates it, be it a hoholistani banderite or special needs NAFOID, because it is as guaranteed that night will follow day that a attack while Xi is present will in just a matter of days result in the same people who cheered it on and were euphoric at the news doing a 180, don a tinfoil hat, and accuse Russia of pulling off a false flag to justify whatever extreme punishment they get (The best case scenario would be China pours in several times the amount of military aid NATO did).
 
Cuckoman dijo:
Do an attack while Xi is present. See what happens. You want china to be involved? This is how you get china involved
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I think there is a method to this madness; the EU and UK want WW3, as do retards in the US. In their twisted and coked out minds they believe killing Xi and Putin would bring about the demise of both nations, they would easily roll over them with the they/them armies equipped with expensive/inadequate mil toys and they finally get to take over Russia and China. They prompted their equally coked out puppet Zelya to say it as he's too high to understand THD applies to him too.
 
Feline Supremacist dijo:
I think there is a method to this madness; the EU and UK want WW3, as do retards in the US. In their twisted and coked out minds they believe killing Xi and Putin would bring about the demise of both nations,
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I think you overestimate the idiots running the EU.
The neocons in US might have such grandiose plans in mind, and possibly the means to execute them.

The EU leadership? lol. nah. They just hope the neocons will win the battle against Trump and thus be able to have a few more decades of rich kickbacks, underage whores, international grandstanding. most EU leaders are midwits incapable of anything except 2 dimes political shenanigans to survive another election cycle.
 
The Dnipro region on that past mineral map is the only place that Ukraine has left that is worth trillions of dollars and they are already beginning to evacuate people from some areas in that region. That must mean that half a trillion dollar mine deposits in Lviv or elsewhere is what is being signed because I can't imagine trying to extract minerals in a region that is about to be turned into a war zone.
 
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If you don't think Western Leftists/Bureaucrats/NGOs won't conscript Rightists/Labourers/Skinheads to go contribute to some conflict in the world, perhaps you should look a little closer at what Ukraine has been doing this entire time.

I don't know if it will happen in this decade, but I do know the white collar class will do everything within their power to make sure I go into the trench, because they want to stay safe and warm in the office.
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If I ever get conscripted, I'll frag as many officers as possible.
Y'know, I'd rather die on my own terms.
 
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