US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Mister Fister]

Of course the petty and full nobility of clownworld are going to defend the servants.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Of course the petty and full nobility of clownworld are going to defend the servants.

Which servants? The disgusting chinks?

 

[Mister Fister]

China is currently the source of

• Nearly all electric motors
• Most lower-grade steel
• Most PCBs
• Assembly of many intermediate and finished components
• A pretty broad range of auto parts

That doesn't mean it has to be the source of things things forever. But it is now, and until there are economical alternatives, thinking companies will just bleed red ink is silly. The obliteration of the American PCB and electric motor industries won't be reversed overnight. Fixing our economic imbalance isn't going to be painless.

https://www.calumetelectronics.com/

American PCBs.

 

[Al Qaedurr]

Because the tarrifs are temporary. They can eat the costs for a bit to retain their customers, or they can raise the price immediately and lose current and potential customers to other competitors. If it was a permanent change, then yes, the last one to raise prices will probably lose the most, but that's not the case here.

I mean as far as him saying the consumer is not eating the tariffs, he's 100% objectively wrong, which was the entire point of my post. Also, virtually all companies are eating some of the cost while also raising prices. They're balancing it out.

My question is what the point of the tariffs are if Trump is now backtracking on taxes when China's made no concessions? Or were they a failure?

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I mean as far as him saying the consumer is not eating the tariffs, he's 100% objectively wrong, which was the entire point of my post. Also, virtually all companies are eating some of the cost while also raising prices. They're balancing it out.

My question is what the point of the tariffs are if Trump is now backtracking on taxes when China's made no concessions? Or were they a failure?

Are the tariffs still there? Yes? Then Chinese factories are still closing.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Commiefornia has decided to release an illegal alien who killed 2 teens while driving drunk, high and at over 100mph after just 2 years even thought he was sentenced to 10 years.

He has a long record of DUI's and has been deported twice already. Commiefornia Department of Corrections "has no comment on the subject of parolee's".

Superman Tom Homan has pledges that "ICE agents will be there waiting for him to be released no matter what Governor Newsome pledges" as Newsome promised to "not hand over anyone to ICE, California is a sanctuary state."

Again the Democrats are trying to defend this shit. A twice deported criminal who has now killed 2 teens by driving drunk and Newsome will just release him on parole after a mere 2 years.

PS Homan is pissed and ranting a bit about democrat judges.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9HeGvpzDLKo

I unironically hope someone lynches this faggot and the judge that let him loose.

Hopefully they end up killing each other. A man can dream

the only thing a communist is good for is killing other communists.

 

[Al Qaedurr]

Are the tariffs still there? Yes? Then Chinese factories are still closing.

But he's backtracking without China having made a concession, which Trump definitely would've made public. Also, it's curious how people who are for these tariffs concede China is more self-reliant than the US yet want to act like a war of attrition caused by this cold turkey approach to trade will have the US come out on top. Doesn't it make more sense that the country with a head start on the US as far as manufacturing will benefit more from this "strategy" than the US? Not saying incentivizing manufacturing is wrong, but maybe this is just a shitty play.

 

[LouBoots]

Why is the comic in your post an mp4?

I've noticed that is the standard now between reddit and X when I rip the images from their pages. Without a plugin or tool I download the entire page and grab the image out of the archive. Animated .gif and .webp are actually stored in .mp4 in that context.

 

[The Ugly One]

https://www.calumetelectronics.com/

American PCBs.

....are not even 3.6% of the global PCB export market. That global market is worth $48 billion. The largest PCB manufacturer in the USA is TTM technologies, with revenues of just $600m.

https://www.power-and-beyond.com/pcb-manufacturing-these-are-the-biggest-players-a-c38499760ae9053b34d796adf3d0746f/

The USA isn't even a big player in the PCB market compared to Canada.

https://www.cognitivemarketresearch.com/regional-analysis/north-america-printed-circuit-boards-pcb-market-report

It's nice that the little company you linked exists and all, but the US PCB industry is just a blip on the radar right now.

 

[Fellen]

I’m afraid that a world where only Africa experiences population growth is just untenable.

Give me more beaner ladies, I’ll fix it

If we stop feeding them, that number will drop quickly.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

But he's backtracking without China having made a concession, which Trump definitely would've made public. Also, it's curious how people who are for these tariffs concede China is more self-reliant than the US yet want to act like a war of attrition caused by this cold turkey approach to trade will have the US come out on top. Doesn't it make more sense that the country with a head start on the US as far as manufacturing will benefit more from this "strategy" than the US? Not saying incentivizing manufacturing is wrong, but maybe this is just a shitty play. A cold turkey approach to something as complex as global trade is rarely the optimal strategy.

He’s replacing Chinese supply lines with their regional rivals who are least likely to serve as pass throughs, and stringing people along to give the process time.

What happened when the South Korean president realized he was surrounded by Chinese infiltrators and hit the panic button? Oh yeah, he was essentially overthrown

People need to get used to the idea that we’re China’s ENEMY. Not competitor, not adversary, their ENEMY

And no, China does not benefit. They’re geared for obscene overproduction to the exclusion of domestics consumption, so no other market can absorbs their exports. They are fucked over a barrel without a condom and are now pregnant with African aids babies

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

But he's backtracking without China having made a concession, which Trump definitely would've made public. Also, it's curious how people who are for these tariffs concede China is more self-reliant than the US yet want to act like a war of attrition caused by this cold turkey approach to trade will have the US come out on top. Doesn't it make more sense that the country with a head start on the US as far as manufacturing will benefit more from this "strategy" than the US? Not saying incentivizing manufacturing is wrong, but maybe this is just a shitty play.

The tariffs haven't even been in effect for a full month. Also, it is highly questionable if China can survive without the US consumer market. The US, on the other hand, can survive without buying shit from China. Will your cheap Chinese crap cost more? Yes, but all that means is people will buy less cheap Chinese crap they don't need.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

I'm more involved the international market than you will ever be in your life. We'll see how long that lasts because I have feeling your bosses are going to watch sales and growth plummet because companies that adapt and eat the cost will maintain sales. The ones that don't will suffer. On the final leg of the S&P, they're going to see sales suffer. They won't survive suffering sales. The companies that try to shove higher prices are all getting told "Fuck you, we'll go somewhere else". I'm seeing that far more from much larger companies.

What companies are these exactly? I'm not sure who is poised to ride out the tariffs (be it the uncertainty or a +100% tariff on overseas goods) without any concerns.

 

[northstar747]

The tariffs haven't even been in effect for a full month. Also, it is highly questionable if China can survive without the US consumer market. The US, on the other hand, can survive without buying shit from China. Will your cheap Chinese crap cost more? Yes, but all that means is people will buy less cheap Chinese crap they don't need.

It's my understanding all the tariffs are paused

 

[SpergioLeonne]

It's my understanding all the tariffs are paused

All the tariffs except the ones against China, are at 10%

Our baseline tariff for China remains 145%

 

[Mister Fister]

....are not even 3.6% of the global PCB export market. That global market is worth $48 billion. The largest PCB manufacturer in the USA is TTM technologies, with revenues of just $600m.

Ver archivo adjunto 7266844

https://www.power-and-beyond.com/pcb-manufacturing-these-are-the-biggest-players-a-c38499760ae9053b34d796adf3d0746f/

The USA isn't even a big player in the PCB market compared to Canada.

Ver archivo adjunto 7266911

https://www.cognitivemarketresearch.com/regional-analysis/north-america-printed-circuit-boards-pcb-market-report

It's nice that the little company you linked exists and all, but the US PCB industry is just a blip on the radar right now.

True but it's easier to go from 1-10 than from 0-1.

 

[Pelican Bones]

Null should put a tariff on any of you retards that are ching chong posting on the site

 

[grocerygoblin]

m'alright.

I think i'm about 2 weeks from flipping to anti-trump.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

If anyone wants to see a Chinese language source, probably Taiwanese in origin, for the kind of shit China is experiencing, check out this guy

https://x.com/yesterdaybigcat/status/1914504555750154605

The entire timeline is a documentation of small protests, like workers not getting paid and homeowners whose building is falling apart, etc.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

WSJ is reporting that china tariff is going to be 45-65%? What the fuck?

TRUMP FUCKED US.