US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I consider myself a devoted patriot for many reasons and in that regard every single American service member death, in theater or otherwise keeps me up at night
I remember my uncle talking about people melted onto metal. My second cousin still can't sleep a full night after 30 years, for reasons he won't tell anyone. It really is a horrible sad thing.
 
You forgot to mention the sudden widespread acceptance, even trust in, the intelligence community and domestic surveillance.
I only bring that up because it was that particular flip-flop in response to Trump that permanently soured me on the party
Do not forget:
Tariffs are now super bad.
Deportations are now super bad.
Cutting government waste is now super bad.

All of this was fine under Obama.
 
It's very odd to see staunchly anti-capitalist/corporation leftists suddenly get so worried about multi-billion dollar companies losing money.

It's almost as if they have zero independently formed ideals and just want to dunk on Bad Orange Man no matter what he does because the internet told them that's what they are supposed to do.
 
It's very odd to see staunchly anti-capitalist/corporation leftists suddenly get so worried about multi-billion dollar companies losing money.

It's almost as if they have zero interdependently formed ideals and just want to dunk on Bad Orange Man no matter what he does because the internet told them that's what they are supposed to do.
Check out r/news or r/politics every single Communist who claims to hate capitalism is sobbing hysterically over le heckin corpos losing money.
 
We HAVE to stop fighting wars against people with nothing to lose
The problem is that we fight our wars in 'humane' fashion. Nothing short of genocide will defeat these people. If you aren't prepared to go that route then your war will ultimately be fruitless and so you might as well not bother.

Americans Spaniards and Russians defeated their colonized peoples for a reason, and it wasn't because they played fair or humanely. Its because they afforded their enemies all the rights of demons and smote them man woman and child with extreme prejudice whenever the occasion so called for. The American first peoples never recovered and never will

It is our ethics and our need to envision ourselves as 'civilized' that make total and complete victory over other groups of people impossible. But technologically speaking? There's nothing stopping America from firebombing Yemen city-by-city village-by-village or from poisoning their food and water supplies to make the land itself wholely inhospitable. There is nothing material stopping America from doing unto Yemen as Temujin did unto Khorasan or Rome unto Carthage; from Massacring whole population groups and taking the surviving women and children as slaves, or diluting their demographic makeup with imported people who hate them and will in turn do the butchery for us. We CAN defeat them, the only question is how much of our own civility and humanity are we willing to give up to make it happen.
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Personally I'd rather not and just start shipping shit through the arctic circle instead.
 
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You forgot to mention the sudden widespread acceptance, even trust in, the intelligence community and domestic surveillance.
I only bring that up because it was that particular flip-flop in response to Trump that permanently soured me on the party

That flip-flop happened the second Barack Obama became POTUS, and when he renewed and added more stuff to The Patriot Act instead of getting rid of it like he had promised several times in 2007-2008.

Every day during the Bush Administration, I kept hearing about The Patriot Act from Democrats (rightfully so-- The Patriot Act is authoritarian bullshit!). The second Obama became POTUS, The Patriot Act wasn't mentioned by them ever again. Amazing.

There was also the NSA scandal of 2013 during Obama's presidency. Crickets from the left.
 
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I remember my uncle talking about people melted onto metal. My second cousin still can't sleep a full night after 30 years, for reasons he won't tell anyone. It really is a horrible sad thing.
Smedly Butlers War is a Racket (link to PDF of the second highest decorated US marine of all time, read it) opened my eyes and broke my heart at the same time.

Saw the effects of our modern overseas war system take its toll on my own people and for what

How many of us are actually safer at night because of the bombs dropped on a place you cant even point to on a map?

I dont mean to doom, I just care about our people that bear our arms so greatly and I feel we have as deep and obligation to them as they do to us, how dare we send them into these fights without any defined goals other than "fuck em up"

"It is unworthy of a great state to fight in something which does not concern it own interest. Gentlemen, show me and objective worthy of war, and I will go along with you. It is easy enough for the statesman (or forum poster) to ride the popular wave from the comfort of his own fireside, making thunderous speeches (posts) from the rostrum, letting the public sound the trumpets of war, and leaving it to the musketeer, bleeding out his life's blood in the snowy wastes to settle whether polices end in glory, or in failure. Nothing is simpler. But, woe to any statesman, who, at such a time, fails to find a cause of war, which will stand up to the scrutiny, once the fighting is over."

-Otto Von Bismark, Iron Chancellor
 
Anyone who blames anything on boomers, or uses the word boomer in any context, is a fat, ugly, loner with no friends or life or concept of time or basic intelligence to do anything but mash keys and reee.
Kill yourselves, you useless, dumb fucks.

I'm not a 'boomer'. Fucking faggot word used by faggots.
I used to love the word "boomer." Then, I grew up. Cool, I guess.
 
Its been the dream of military strategists since the dawn of aviation to win wars with only bombs dropped yet short of the use of nuclear weapons it has never once happened.
Has it, tho? Or is it just the dream of the MIC so that it can sell even more bombs and make their 3rd quarter profits look nicer?
-openly and shamelessly antisemitic, slurs and all
Reminds me of Ubisoft and how anti-racist/pro nigger they are, only to prove with Assassin's Creed Shadows(a game that did so poorly they sold out to Tencent almost immediately after) that they are more racist towards Japanese than almost anyone else. Left always projects onto the right(and everybody else), whatever they accuse you of, they are guilty more than three times over themselves, no exceptions
Why Chen regards it as “almost the definition of racism” to promote a country’s best interests by defending it from invaders from Venezuela is left unexplained. No doubt if you have to ask then you too are racist.
I really hope somebody is making a list of all these activist judges not doing their jobs. That will look lovely during the re-election season.
It's very odd to see staunchly anti-capitalist/corporation leftists suddenly get so worried about multi-billion dollar companies losing money.

It's almost as if they have zero independently formed ideals and just want to dunk on Bad Orange Man no matter what he does because the internet told them that's what they are supposed to do.
Same as with their love of Elon, only to completely lose their minds and engage in open terrorism against his cars(something the Elon thread claims is "not terrorism" or "even if it is, he deserves it" btw), all over his support of Donald and taking away their Twitter echo chamber.
NPCs getting their regular system updates with no thoughts of their own is the perfect way to describe the entirety of the left at any point in time thru out recent history.
 
That flip-flop happened the second Barack Obama became POTUS, and when he renewed and added more stuff to The Patriot Act instead of getting rid of it like he had promised several times in 2007-2008.

Every day during the Bush Administration, I kept hearing about The Patriot Act from Democrats (rightfully so-- The Patriot Act is authoritarian bullshit!). The second Obama because POTUS, The Patriot Act wasn't mentioned by them ever again. Amazing.

There was also the NSA scandal of 2013 during Obama's presidency. Crickets from the left.
I still think the NSA (millitary intelligence that answers to the president) is the good guy and that Edward Snowden was a CIA operative leaking shit to try to get one sides total internet dragnet shut down because the NSA algorithm was catching and documenting the crimes of the elite in a way any future president could choose to prosecute.
 
Smedly Butlers War is a Racket (link to PDF of the second highest decorated US marine of all time, read it) opened my eyes and broke my heart at the same time.

Saw the effects of our modern overseas war system take its toll on my own people and for what

How many of us are actually safer at night because of the bombs dropped on a place you cant even point to on a map?

I dont mean to doom, I just care about our people that bear our arms so greatly and I feel we have as deep and obligation to them as they do to us, how dare we send them into these fights without any defined goals other than "fuck em up"

"It is unworthy of a great state to fight in something which does not concern it own interest. Gentlemen, show me and objective worthy of war, and I will go along with you. It is easy enough for the statesman (or forum poster) to ride the popular wave from the comfort of his own fireside, making thunderous speeches (posts) from the rostrum, letting the public sound the trumpets of war, and leaving it to the musketeer, bleeding out his life's blood in the snowy wastes to settle whether polices end in glory, or in failure. Nothing is simpler. But, woe to any statesman, who, at such a time, fails to find a cause of war, which will stand up to the scrutiny, once the fighting is over."

-Otto Von Bismark, Iron Chancellor
And that shit was written after WWI! Over 100 years ago.
 
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