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Should be a wild four years.

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Good thing Trump has a camera crew film him signing every document with a big sharpie, or else this kind of legalistic concern might arise elsewhere.
Honestly, and I doubt it will happen, but I hope other presidents, especially Republican ones, learn from him in this regard with regard to pardons and Executive Orders. If you do it live on TV they can't say you didn't do it.
 
I swear to god you motherfuckers are retarded.

RETARD, STUPID FUCKING RETARD.. TRUMP DOESN'T USE AN AUTOPEN RETARD, TRUMP SIGNED THE PARDONS ON LIVE TV RETARD, PARDON AUTHORITY ISN'T THE PROBLEM HERE, RETARD. BIDEN DIDN'T SIGN THEM, RETARD!! THAT'S THE ISSUE AT HAND HERE YOU FUCKIGN MONGOLOID!!

Jesus christ, what don't you brain damaged faggots get? I get some of you are fuckign dem shills, but jesus christ, at least hide it better, you dumb fucks.
The Supreme Court has ruled that pardons can't be revoked. Who's the retard?
 
I think the 4d chess is real to some extent but I think you're giving Trump way too much credit for this one. It's a stupid move no matter how you cut it and Dems aren't going to suddenly realize their pardons are immoral—they already knew that. They're going to attack Trump for going after the Constitution, which he quite literally is this time around.

Even in the event that Biden was this rotting corpse who had no idea what he signed, there's no way you can convince me that he didn't agree with these pardons.

I'm repeating what has already been said in this thread. This action is not an attack on the Constitution nor a overreach of presidential powers. What's being called into question is not if Biden would have 'agreed' to the pardons but wether he was even aware of them. The allegations are that his staff were writing and signing these pardons and EO's without his knowledge or input, not that he didn't agree or didn't physically sign it. The autopen is the tool they would have used to put Biden's 'signature' on it.

If anyone is guilty of "going after the Constitution" it's Biden's admin, by allegedly writing and signing these documents via autopen playing pretend president by proxy.
 
People focusing on the autopen shit are missing the point. The real question is was Biden sufficiently mentally competent to understand what he was authorising? The mechanics of how his signature made it to the paper are irrelevant.

The issue is whether Biden did it at all. If Biden sat there, staring blankly into space, while he pushed the "Sign" button, well, he still issued the pardons, the final authority on the President's fitness to serve is Congress, and the Democratic Congress decided they'd rather have Biden shitting his pants in the Oval Office than endure Kamala Harris's mindless cackling. But if he was sleeping off another "senior moment" while aides drafted and signed pardons without his knowledge, then there is a legitimate question as to whether pardons even technically happened.
 
Uh sweatie they were done at the end of Biden's presidency. Not sure why you're saying they were never issued. Biden even made an announcement about it.
You spelled Sweetie wrong.

Also the argument is Biden didn't know about them when they were signed and was only told about them during his press conference about it. The man literally reads anything off a teleprompter so It wouldn't surprise me if they used that to get him to say he did it.
 
border enforcement and going after dementia joe are two different things. ones actual law being enforced and the other is political theatre for retards like you. no better than the left trannies whining that the worlds going to end every other day
>”NOTHING EVER HAPPENS”
>here’s something that happened
>”T-THAT DOESN’T COUNT”
 
Autopens have been used by presidents for a long time. Obama famously used an autopen to extend the Bush tax cuts. There is long precedent for autopens to be valid. Not sure why Trump is being a retard about this.
Again it's not the Autopen it's the fact that someone else could have been signing the Pardons instead of Joe, and that Joe may not have even known about them at the time of signing.
 
You spelled Sweetie wrong.

Also the argument is Biden didn't know about them when they were signed and was only told about them during his press conference about it. The man literally reads anything off a teleprompter so It wouldn't surprise me if they used that to get him to say he did it.
How would the president not remember signing something? Are you retarded?
 
But if the pardons were issued without Biden's knowing or approval then they are pretty much a forgery. The President has the power of pardon, not random staffers with an autopen.
How could you prove that? Braindead biden and his family can simply lie and say he was aware of these pardons and come with some excuse in the courts, the trump administration just has to push harder and force biden into cognitive test.
 
Claiming a president’s signature doesn’t count because he autosigned it is Darrell Brooks tier legal reasoning.
I’m not a big Biden fan but this is ridiculous. It’s like claiming a court is not legitimate because the American flag has yellow trim, making it an admiralty court.
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I'm sorry but it's been declared you are now legally required to wear a burger suit.

Proof? Joe Biden did an executive order declaring it forever ago, we just found it, here's the signature.
Joe_Biden_Presidential_Signature.png
Yes I could have just forged his signature with a machine thousands of miles away from him but that doesn't matter, it's his signature, so by your logic: Get in the suit.
 
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