Unpopular opinions about books

I think a lot of people only disparage audiobooks because they're avid listeners of audiobooks, on top of being readers. You listen to enough audiobooks and you quicklly begin to realise most of them aren't worth the meager storage they take up on your phone. Narrators who don't seem to follow what they're reading, horribly mispronounced character names, sometimes fully abridged chapters. I listened to Howl's Moving Castle before I ever read it, and was shocked at how much was in the book that wasn't in the copy I listened to on Audible, and that particular audiobook was one of the better ones! The narration was very engaging, the characters all had clear and distinct voices, and yet there were just chunks of the book gone completely absent.
That's disappointing. I think I actually have the audiobook of Howl's... downloaded. I'll have to check if it's abridged or not.

And I agree. I have given up on lots of audiobooks because of bad narration. I wish I had read A Confederacy of Dunces first, instead of listening to the audio version. The narration on that is absolute dogshit. The narrator's accents are irritatingly bad.
 
Audiobooks are fine. You're still getting the information but on a longer timeline. Unless, you're a psycho who listens at triple or quadruple speed.

I agree with Huddy that who the narrator is can make or break a book. Too many terrible narrators out there reading otherwise fantastic books.
 
Fast Cars by Paul Sheldon wasn't very good actually, and Annie Wilkes was both 100% correct in her assessment of it and entirely justified in making him burn it on that big barbecue.

Paul Sheldon created a character and a series in the Misery Chastain romance novels that clearly resonated with a great many people, and were a great commercial success, amassing him considerable wealth and paying for his daughter's braces and college tuition. However, he was too much of a hack to value or respect his audience (probably because a great deal of them were women), so he arrogantly spurned them by spitefully and ignominiously killing off his most beloved character in a pompous attempt to pivot to writing what he snobbishly considered proper literature, something he was never clever or talented enough to actually do, as the lurid, gratuitously expletive-laden class tourism on display in Fast Cars made evident.

While hobbling him and holding him prisoner might have been a bit extreme, I can't argue with Annie's critique of Sheldon's work. She was bang on the money. It was absolute cockadoodey/10.

And I'm not just saying that because I played her in a radio play once.
 
I don't mind chatting about it, but it's one of those things where nerds/performative people overdo it and don't get why.
All nerds want to be seen as intellectuals. They want to be seen as classy and smart, so many read certified smart guy books and watch certified smart guy shows and consume certified smart guy news. Now as it turns out, reading The Corrections, and watching Bill Maher while professing your intellectual superiority at being an atheist does not make you Fraser Crane. It makes you an idiot.

There are companies like Books by the Foot, that sell used books of socially acceptable literary novels and non-fiction to put on a shelf to impress people.
 
All nerds want to be seen as intellectuals. They want to be seen as classy and smart, so many read certified smart guy books and watch certified smart guy shows and consume certified smart guy news. Now as it turns out, reading The Corrections, and watching Bill Maher while professing your intellectual superiority at being an atheist does not make you Fraser Crane. It makes you an idiot.

There are companies like Books by the Foot, that sell used books of socially acceptable literary novels and non-fiction to put on a shelf to impress people.
I get weird condescension from people for my reading taste. I like a lot of older stuff, mostly genre fiction. Hammett, Chandler, Lovecraft, Bradbury, Robert E. Howard, Asimov, Heinlein, Leiber, PKD, etc. I've gotten flak from really fucking pretentious people for this and the recommendations they give are just kinda shitty. It's never anything good, with a lot of it turning out to be "diaspora fiction", political commentary, or pseudo-intellectual shit that gets outdated within 5 years.

I had someone tell me to educate myself "because it wasn't their job to do it" . I legitimately don't get why they lack self-awareness. I'll meet lefties and a LOT of those are surface level tryhards that won't shut up about how XYZ is problematic instead of just talking about what they love. Right-winged ones are just as bad, with me getting recommended Evola and etc. but never anything that's fun. I'm not discussion books for a college course or scholarly bullshit. We're at a party. Can you talk about shit that isn't pretentious?

By the way, my post got eaten so I should clarify that I was saying that these people don't get why other people don't like them.
 
nerds/performative people overdo it and don't get why.
They're doing it for attention. The worst are the book influencers -- BookTokers and BookTubers -- who know they can build an audience by recording videos of themselves reading, thrifting, and otherwise living an "idyllic" life.
 
They're doing it for attention. The worst are the book influencers -- BookTokers and BookTubers -- who know they can build an audience by recording videos of themselves reading, thrifting, and otherwise living an "idyllic" life.
I feel like the only good book influencers are the old guys who just like babbling about the book/author. I can't stand most of the women and metrosexuals. I just wanna hear about the books, authors, and what they like/dislike. Maybe a cool cover or history bit. The old guys will often do this. Maybe 3-4 other non-old guys. Haven't encountered a woman or homosexual that didn't sound vapid and breadtube-y as fuck.

I like sperging and sharing book hauls in the right circles. But I do genuinely love this stuff.
 
Can you talk about shit that isn't pretentious?
They can’t; they have no taste and therefore no personality.
Haven't encountered a woman or homosexual that didn't sound vapid and breadtube-y as fuck.
The competent female reviewers are on goodreads, I think, but are generally buried under a deluge of pretentious liberal arts majors who’re trying to break into the New Yorker’s book review. That is to say, no reviews can be so incisively and hilariously critical as a woman’s one sentence line for her own memory.

Opinion: I don’t trust people who primarily read non-fiction (excluding history). Their unwillingness to, even subconsciously, explore theme or character or symbolism makes me think they lack introspection. As a rule, though, I don’t care what other people read as long as they are reading.

Also, and I know this isn’t an unpopular opinion on the Farms, but… Modern fiction is making people intellectually lazy which then makes them actively dumber as they’re no longer practicing critical thought.

If all you’re reading is ACOTAR or Harlen Coben, I challenge you to swap every fifth book to an actual literary tome. I read My Cousin Rachel a couple weeks ago, and I didn’t enjoy it because the main character is a douchebag, but I could actively appreciate the consistency of the narrative voice and the beauty of the syntax and descriptive passages. Such writing is almost a lost art; I’m concerned.
 
Also, and I know this isn’t an unpopular opinion on the Farms, but… Modern fiction is making people intellectually lazy which then makes them actively dumber as they’re no longer practicing critical thought.
I've given up on reading books by people who are still alive. Everyone currently alive is fucking retarded because anyone writing books for a living is a goddamn idiot and on top of that, approved of by capital, "sensitivity readers," and nothing is allowed between covers other than utter mind poison.
 
They can’t; they have no taste and therefore no personality.
the only personality they seem to have is to go on and on about why I'm problematic for having most of my favorite authors be dead white men. but the instant i mention a woman writer they haven't heard of, it's like they get selective amnesia and try to forget it.

it's weird.
The competent female reviewers are on goodreads, I think, but are generally buried under a deluge of pretentious liberal arts majors who’re trying to break into the New Yorker’s book review. That is to say, no reviews can be so incisively and hilariously critical as a woman’s one sentence line for her own memory.
Yeah I've met a handful that aren't making me want to tune them out.
Opinion: I don’t trust people who primarily read non-fiction (excluding history). Their unwillingness to, even subconsciously, explore theme or character or symbolism makes me think they lack introspection. As a rule, though, I don’t care what other people read as long as they are reading.
I'm largely indifferent to this. I don't trust someone who reads bullshit self-help or nonfictional political books as a primary thing. But history, cooking, hobby, etc? Sure. Economics/Philosophy? Sure, odd, but they're at least able to have something intriguing.

Also, and I know this isn’t an unpopular opinion on the Farms, but… Modern fiction is making people intellectually lazy which then makes them actively dumber as they’re no longer practicing critical thought.
There's like this move to sanitize everything but also make sure everything is what fits the vision of the powers that be.

I think looking at the mainstream is kinda dead now. I gotta look to reviews and personal recs. I picked up the first Malazan book and Three-Body Problem for like 2 bucks each on recommendation. Almost everything else that I do own is old or written by someone who'd been writing for like 40+ years.
If all you’re reading is ACOTAR or Harlen Coben, I challenge you to swap every fifth book to an actual literary tome. I read My Cousin Rachel a couple weeks ago, and I didn’t enjoy it because the main character is a douchebag, but I could actively appreciate the consistency of the narrative voice and the beauty of the syntax and descriptive passages. Such writing is almost a lost art; I’m concerned.
I don't know what either of those references are. ACOTAR? Harlen Coben?

I don't mind reading something challenging once in a while. Roger Zelazny's "Call me Conrad/This Immortal" and "Lord of Light" were slow burners that I enjoyed. Not for everyone, but they were pretty vivid and dream-like.
 
I feel like the only good book influencers are the old guys who just like babbling about the book/author.
I agree. They're not without their issues, though. There are a few I follow who like to put out 40- to 60-minute videos listing their "top" or "favorite" books of the week, month, year, or decade, without any sections or text lists with the selections. Any summarizations in the comments are removed, and you're stuck scrubbing through the videos to see the covers. It's beyond annoying.
 
I agree. They're not without their issues, though. There are a few I follow who like to put out 40- to 60-minute videos listing their "top" or "favorite" books of the week, month, year, or decade, without any sections or text lists with the selections. Any summarizations in the comments are removed, and you're stuck scrubbing through the videos to see the covers. It's beyond annoying.
I find a certain charm to the sheer unorganized-ness some of these old guys have. It reminds me of like circa 2010 youtube.

But yeah, it can get annoying.

Speaking of which, I've noticed that the more performative someone is about having reading as a "hobby", the more likely they are to just criticize you for your tastes instead of actually talking about the book/author/etc. I just walked away from a convo where the other party was rambling about racism in Lovecraft.
 
I've given up on reading books by people who are still alive.
I was going to say I've enjoyed a lot of Barbara Kingsolver and Pat Conroy, but PC died in 2016, and BK's best work is more than twenty years old.

I read Pachinko (2017) in January, and I really enjoyed that.

I do think modern cookbooks are significantly better than virtually all of the older ones, though I'm partial to vintage BH&G since a lot of my grandma's recipes came out of the '56 version.
 
There's nothing wrong with the heroic ideal in books it's actually a good thing to have a guy who's objectively the hero.
Everything is the shade of grey is not the sign of a good writer it's a sign of someone who doesn't understand basic human morality and it's just a sociopath IE George RR I'm never going to finish my books Martin
 
I don't know if it's unpopular, but you could cut a good 80% of Moby Dick and it would flow a lot better. It starts really well, then once Ahab and is quest is introduced, you have tons of minutiae about whaling which, while interesting, are less interesting than the characters and the journey. And in the end it picks up again.

I will admit the language was too tough and I eventually moved to a Hebrew translation.
the minutiae are the most important part, you see, Moby Dick is the single gayest book ever written
the archaic language masks it a bit, but you should get the gist around the time they're covered in whale cum
 
Ever since I first heard the actual details of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire novels, I've had this thought, and I want to sanity check it with people who've never read 'em, and I'm not sure where else to ask.

Speaking as someone who's never read the novels, never seen the television adaptations, and has no intention of ever doing either*, it's completely obvious how the series is supposed to end, right? Like, the whole premise is that, on the one hand, it's an exploration of the brutal realities of naked power politics, where idealistic heroism and chivalric principles matter much less than Machiavellian cunning and ruthlessness; and on the other hand, relentlessly cold and inimical Others lurk in the background, kept away from civilization only by works wrought through ancient practices no one understands any longer, and the continued efforts of small numbers of valiant men; and also it's an almost comically long and digressive series.

So obviously, obviously, the way it ends is that all the heroic and self-sacrificial characters get taken out one by one by the various rat bastards, and then the rat bastards all stab each other in the back over the course of a self-indulgent half-a-million words or so, until some random rat bastard or other rises to the top of the heap and becomes undisputed King of the Realm, and this takes so long that both characters and readers almost forget about the genuine threat of the relentlessly cold and inimical Others lurking in the background, kept away from civilization by etc. Who are now no longer kept at by by the self-sacrificial efforts of small numbers of valiant men (all of said men having since been brutally murdered by the rat bastards), and who proceed to sweep over the land annihilating everything and everyone and rendering all the efforts of the various rat bastards to achieve their overweening ambitions useless and hollow.

And whether you choose to view this as an environmentalist allegory for climate change, or an atheist's defense of rectitude and morality in the face of nihilism, or a fatalistic reflection upon death as the inevitable conclusion of all life no matter how long and vividly lived, or an appropriately medieval warning upon the vanity of ambition**, it's a thematically rich ending, and one that actually retroactively justifies the length of the stories, as their excessive detail serves to show how easy it was to forget the whole "impending doom" thing.

Like, it's obvious, right? And, I mean, what little I have read of Martin's other works indicates that he's a fine writer of Weird Tales with a lot of knowledge of that genre, and so writing what is essentially a decent Clark Ashton Smith story expanded into the world's longest shaggy dog joke seems actually entirely in character for the man.

Am I crazy, have I wildly misinterpreted the dim rumors of the plot that I've received at second, third and fourth hand, or is this an unoriginal thought that at least twenty other people have had before me?

*life's short enough as it is, and i need to prioritize what things i can read before i die, so i'm not fucking starting another 4,000 page fantasy monstrosity

**or as an allegory for the fall of the eastern roman empire to muslims in the wake of christian infighting, or as a warning about trust in centralized authorities, etc., etc.
 
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