I was a big fan of Trump but listening to his podcasts made him human, and as a result even more impressive, which made me like him more.
I never thought he was dumb, per se, but listening to it made me realize bow smart he is.
My close relative that I use for normie barometer was going off on how all the celebrity endorsements would hurt Kamala (when I told her that they endorsed her) because the celebs are all evil and satanic (esp Beyonce and Jay-Z), even before the Diddy tapes went out. So it seems that having celebrity endorsements is starting to lose its shine. I'm curious to know if this trend continues or is just replaced by e-celebs.