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Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?

On a recent Saturday night in Austin, Anya Haas went out hoping to meet someone. She planned to grab a bar seat at a trendy restaurant and scope out her options, but when she arrived, it was packed. While waiting, an elderly man offered to buy Haas dinner; she politely declined and left to grab some sushi before heading to a comedy show. There, she figured, it would be easier to mingle with people her own age. But when the 32-year-old hospitality worker arrived at the club, it was mostly empty. She was also the only person who sat in the front row, and the comics singled her out for being alone. Humiliated, Haas then got a ride home from a single, 75-year-old woman who said she drove for Uber in order to meet people. That’s going to be me, Haas thought while petting the driver’s dog.

Once she got home, Haas recorded a videorecapping her mortifying experience. “I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,” she says. “So this is a new one for me.” Haas, who has been single for the past seven years, talks through tears about how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”

Haas had posted on TikTok only three times before, but by the next day, her video had millions of views across the internet. People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024. Many men criticized Haas for having “unrealistic expectations” or seemed confused by her dilemma. “Why are so many 29 yr old boss girls from Tiktok having public meltdowns about failing to find a man?” wrote one dude on X. Meanwhile, legions of women commiserated. “I’m in the same boat,” one 30-year-old wrote, adding that she also hadn’t been in a relationship in almost seven years.

Single people have always griped about trying to meet someone, but lately, it seems heterosexual women have reached a breaking point. Not only are they crying on-camera and swearing off dating apps, they are becomingvoluntarily celibate like Julia Fox or going “boysober.” When Bumble ran an anti-celibacy campaign last month, the company received so much backlash it was forced to pull the ads and apologize. Taken together, it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.

Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?” Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”

Taylor, who asked to go by her first name only, could relate to Spencer’s video even though she’s not angling for a marriage proposal. “She has a solid life but doesn’t have a person to share it with,” the 30-year-old pastry cook says of the TikTok. “It hit me recently: 90 percent of the things I do on a daily basis I do alone.” Taylor, who lives in Brooklyn and wants a partnership of some kind, says so many of the guys she meets suffer from what she calls “porn brain”: They prize performative masculinity over actual connection. During sex, she says, they focus on dominance rather than her pleasure. Her only relationship ended a year and a half ago, and while she has been on a few dates since then, it’s been hard to have meaningful conversations.

All the women I spoke with said they feel apps have turned dates into transactions. Haas swore off Bumble and Hinge more than a year ago, finding that most guys just pretended to want something serious in order to get laid. (Since posting her video, she says two men she previously matched with sent unprompted dick pics.) Anissa, a 31-year-old corporate lawyer who asked to go by a pseudonym, tells me the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.” She describes three male archetypes she has encountered on the apps: “He either wants to have sex with you immediately. Or he’s already in a relationship and is just so obviously noncommittal. Or he’s obsessed with you.” One guy lied to her about his job and where he lived, another confessed last-minute to being in an open relationship, and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”

Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.” Taylor also hasn’t had any luck in the wild after ditching dating apps. She says that in her 20s, it was easy to meet someone every weekend at Union Pool, the notoriously horny Williamsburg club. Now, she finds the bar crowd is more closed off and cliqued up. Watching Haas’s video, she thought, Someone’s sitting alone at a comedy show? Sounds about right. “In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.

Each woman offers different theories on why dating is such a drag right now. Taylor blames technology, and Spencer finds men her age are more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend” than in committing to a relationship, partly because the COVID-19 pandemic derailed their prime sexual years. Another woman in her early 30s tells me she has been on an eight-month break from dating men because she thinks they’ve become more politically conservative. (Some studies show that young women are becoming more liberal than young men, though experts are skeptical that there’s a significant political divide between the sexes.) Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.” The one common thread throughout these conversations, though, is that the women believe their romantic priorities are fundamentally different from those of guys their age. That may not be a new problem (see: Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate and swiping left.

Taylor still feels hopeful that she’ll meet someone even if she has no idea when. But Anissa isn’t so sure. Like Spencer and Haas, the thought of being single long-term terrifies her; she doesn’t want to spend her Friday nights with her cat eating sushi. She also hates it when people tell her a relationship will happen when she stops trying to make it happen. “I think that is the biggest lie that we tell each other and ourselves,” Anissa says. “You have to look.” But where is she supposed to look, exactly? For her part, Haas wants to be more proactive about flirting IRL by complimenting hot men she sees at the grocery store or in a coffee shop. Rather than going to a bar and hoping to get hit on, she’s also forcing herself to get off the couch and hang out with friends she doesn’t normally see. “I’m just going to try and have fun and see if that helps,” she says.

On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages, but the DMs Haas is most excited about have been from other women in Austin asking her to hang out. If the video scores her a few new friends, it will have served a purpose — though she has thought about taking it down. “If I magically do meet somebody,” she says, “I don’t need them to be able to go to my TikTok and see me crying all over the internet.”
 
I have even been quite direct with it, (look I quite like you, would you like to go for a coffee ) and the answer was a polite no or quite harsh rejection.
I don't doubt you in the least, but my brain is having a hard time processing that. You're smart, fun, and funny. Anyone that turned you down was a goddamn mong.

Is this what we're doing now? Null turns off sticker notifications and now motherfuckers are going to reply to every post they see so they get more (You)s? Jesus Christ.
I'm still sticker bombing all of you. IDGAF if you're not notified, I love you all and shall leave you surprise dopamine boosts.
 
YEP, most men cannot afford to go to Asia, S. American, wherever to import a wife.

Many that do get turbo fucked in the divorce 3 years later.
The problem is less about the woman but the homeland the Westerner would take their woman back home to. Women would slowly but surely go native, and in turn, become yet another homewrecker who thinks she has more options than she actually has.

Its the same equivalent of leaving the forest because the trees have become toxic and the fruits are non-existent, get a tree from a different forest but plant it in the same ground as the tainted forest. Only for the new tree to soak up the toxins that created the forest and it becomes barren and toxic itself over time.

And until this taint is removed, the gender relations between men and women cannot go back to normal. The Western man unironically has a better chance of that lasting family if they just became expats and leave the West entirely.

Don't forget gigantic fat asses with shit tattoos and their FUR BABIES
...And ultimately the origin for the plapjack meme. Because dating is so bad, some men have resorted to dating women who would typically be undesirable out of pure desperation. Like an Aussie banging an Abbo woman because that's the only woman available at the time.

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And people who make decisions out of desperation usually wind up making terrible mistakes in the long run.
 
I've been to speed dating events where the guys were 2-3 notches above the women and even they go the cold shoulder.

I did speed dating once, I'm sure in that one time I picked out all the tropes right away. I expected nothing and got negative of nothing, it was basically selling gold subs to a dating app but with extra steps. The organizers got paid and you didn't get laid.
 
Well, certainly not a Muslim but honestly, I haven’t had any of that kind of attention at all. Never have.
I don’t think I look like the back of a bus but honestly, I have never had male attention like that. Maybe some women do, I’m sure very beautiful women do.
It's actually usually the opposite. The really, really beautiful women get only a little attention. Most guys don't bother. The average women actually get the most attention because guys think they have a shot. Those average women often have a lower self esteem and get the whole "ew I'm trash, if you like me, then what's wrong with you?" schtick. That's where I think a lot of these problems start. Young men have a really hard time following and understanding that train of thought. It's one of those things that if you don't have a guy around to teach you about that, then a lot of guys have a hard time understanding that aspect of female nature.

But what Ghostse says below is why we have MGTOW and Red Pill in the first place:
Maybe you don't have the entire office writing sonnets or fist fights for your hand in the street, but I promise you that you had at least one dude who would have committed a felony for you if meant a steady relationship. You have just completely ignored it and didn't even process he was interested because women just expect men to do shit for them.
This is the other thing young men just don't comprehend. They fall in love, do nice things for girl. Girl sees effort and is either reciprocal or not. If they aren't, a young and inexperienced guy might fall into a doubling down loop of trying to hard. A lot of young men don't understand that "trying too hard" is actually counterintuitive to getting a girl to be interested in you. Society and culture we grow up in actively tell them to double down. They don't grasp that this isn't what women want and if it isn't taught to them, it sets them up for women to rip their hearts out over and over again. It's a concept completely against a young man's first instincts. Most guys do actually want to do nice, romantic things for girls but if you're not in a relationship with said girl already, they're actively fucking REPULSED by it. It's completely against our first instincts and it's hard to unlearn and undo.

Once that damage is done, those young men aren't the same ever again.
 
It's hilariously common for a woman who gains a lot of weight to cope by saying, "Oh I was so unhealthy when I was skinny! It was toxic!" But I bet you anything if their husband went from making $120k a year to making $30k a year because his old job was so toxic, she'd go for a jog for the first time in years -- right out the door.
I was a US size 2 when I got married. Twenty one years and five kids later, my shape is... okay, but different. Not up to the standards I would have wished for, because getting old sucks. (The plastic rack though? Still awesome. Indestructible.)
But, I am now technically a millionaire. (Technically, as I would be extremely foolish to sell the business at this time, diamond hands)
What do, should husband divorce? He doesn't own either our house or any equity in the business, oops. #marriagedilemmas
 
I have literally never heard of that before
At this point almost everything you are saying is the opposite of reality.

Even basic stuff like claiming its men mocking guys for nofap when anyone whos been on twitter knows its women, its women who are aggressively pro "sex work is real work" and its far more common to find men who are anti-porn.

there are no "women available to incels" thats why they are incels.

You're either from an alternate reality or are trolling to get replies and stickers.
 
I was a US size 2 when I got married. Twenty one years and five kids later, my shape is... okay, but different. Not up to the standards I would have wished for, because getting old sucks. (The plastic rack though? Still awesome. Indestructible.)
But, I am now technically a millionaire. (Technically, as I would be extremely foolish to sell the business at this time, diamond hands)
What do, should husband divorce? He doesn't own either our house or any equity in the business, oops. #marriagedilemmas
I don't think you grasp how fortunate you are. You're quite lucky that you got out of this game when you did. Its so radically different now from even when I was younger. Things that worked before, don't work now at all. It's crazy how much the world changed in just a few years.
 
I did speed dating once, I'm sure in that one time I picked out all the tropes right away. I expected nothing and got negative of nothing, it was basically selling gold subs to a dating app but with extra steps. The organizers got paid and you didn't get laid.
I have been speed dating once. I don’t want to but I accompanied a friend (female) who wanted to go but was nervous. It was hilariously, terribly awful. Three different men sat me down and after I’d said hello my name is otterly why don’t you tell me about yourself they all went into a rant about how much they hated their ex wives. Now I am in no position to judge your ex wife here, mate. Maybe she was a bad ‘un, I simply don’t know, but we have three minutes to make an impression on each other and you telling me all about how she took your prized bang and olfsen stereo and sold it for drugs isn’t making me want to see you again. One man told me he hated women, straight up. Ok, again, I’m not really feeling ‘ yeah let’s meet up’ here even though you’re nice looking. One bloke told me he wanted a blonde and I am not blonde. A couple just talked about football, for the entire time before the bell rang. Not a single one of them asked me my name, what I was into or anything. It was grim
The only bloke who came across as alright confessed to me that he was actually happily married and was just there to bolster his mate who was post bad divorce, and he felt very guilty even though his wife knew he was here and had Okd it.
My mate and I had bought a pitcher of cocktails and she ended up carrying it round with her so I was also stone cold sober. She ended up dating the nice looking cad who hated women for a year despite me telling her what he’d said to me and he broke her heart and turned out to have a terrible porn addiction.
It was one of the most awful nights out I’ve ever had. You could have made a really good sketch about how awful it was
It's actually usually the opposite. The really, really beautiful women get only a little attention.
I think this is true actually. I did know some really stunning looking girls at uni and the guys were afraid to approach them. The fellow women were also awful to them, so lose lose.
 
Let me show you the ladies on there

Note, her and the other I put higher up are ones I'd consider "nice".

Went on a Date last weekend, off Hinge (not pictured here). 1.5 hour meet n chat, thought it went well..next morning didn't respond to me message with my number and has unmatched... Lol

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>picture of her kissing her dog
White women will never live down the stereotype.
 
It was one of the most awful nights out I’ve ever had. You could have made a really good sketch about how awful it was
"Look, you just have such a beautiful head Otterly. My bitch of an ex wife has a beautiful head, so I stuffed her in bag. Would you be my wife next? Oh look, our three minutes are up. I also like walks on the beach. Please love me Otterly."
 
"Look, you just have such a beautiful head Otterly. My bitch of an ex wife has a beautiful head, so I stuffed her in bag. Would you be my wife next? Oh look, our three minutes are up. I also like walks on the beach. Please love me Otterly."
lol. He showed absolutely no interest in me (thankfully, dont fancy being a head in a bag…)
It was mainly ‘she is such a cow, {nod sympathetically} she took my stereo! It was a bang and olufsen! But she doesn’t even like music she left all my vinyl and she’s such a bitch i hate her so much…
So you like music? What are you into?
SHE TOOK MY STEREO!
{checks watch to see if two minutes are up}
Im laughing about it now but it was such a weird night. You have to imagine it all taking place in a very thick scots ‘rab c nesbitt’ west coast accent as well. .
Id be absolutely doomed if I ever needed to date again.
 
That sounds really funny.

Can't you laugh about it now since it's behind you?
Oh yeah definitely. It was fine, all perfectly safe, very ordered and controlled, it was just hilariously awful.
Dealing with the year long fallout from my friend dating the handsome but awful guy was less fun. I’d like to say she learned her lesson but she didn’t then. However, she did eventually and married a very nice dork and they’re still very happy together and have kids. I can’t remember where she met him, I think maybe he was a friend of a friend.
That was most of the women there when I went, wing(wo)men for some fat/ugly chick. Shame because they were the ones you actually wanted to match with but they would straight up tell you why they were there and why their fat friend was such a good person.
I think if I was writing it as a sketch I’d have one session where almost everyone nice is someone’s wing man/woman and everyone else is stereo guy or the one who talked about arsenal .
@davids877 that’s nuts
 
That was most of the women there when I went, wing(wo)men for some fat/ugly chick. Shame because they were the ones you actually wanted to match with but they would straight up tell you why they were there and why their fat friend was such a good person.
If a woman says her friend is a "good person" that means her friend is fat. It also means she is likely not a good person.
 
Id be absolutely doomed if I ever needed to date again.
I don't think you'd have to for long, it seems every girl I've known so far has been in a perpetual string of relationships, I don't think I've seen any single women since high school. Even in uni it seems impossible. Shit's just fucked, I don't want to go into speed dating/online dating because it seems just... awful.
 
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