Culture The Dream of Streaming Is Dead - Bundles are back.

By Jacob Stern
MAY 16, 2024, 5:27 PM ET

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Remember when streaming was supposed to let us watch whatever we want, whenever we want, for a sliver of the cost of cable? Well, so much for that. In recent years, streaming has gotten confusing and expensive as more services than ever are vying for eyeballs. It has done the impossible: made people miss the good old-fashioned cable bundle.

Now the bundles are back. Last week, Disney and Warner Bros. Discovery announced that, starting this summer, they will offer a streaming bundle of Disney+, Hulu, and Max. Then, on Tuesday, Comcast said that next month it will introduce a streaming bundle of its own, packaging Peacock, Apple TV+, and Netflix. This bundle, called StreamSaver, will be available only to Comcast’s broadband, mobile, and TV customers. Some smaller mini-bundles already exist, but for the most part, the streaming wars had become a battle royale—no alliances, everyone for themselves. Now the combatants have aligned in two blocs, sort of like the Avengers versus the Justice League—except that, confusingly, Marvel movies (Disney) and DC movies (Max) are now part of the same bloc.

It’s not cable, but it’s not not cable either. Streaming hasn’t quite come full circle, but it’s three-quarters of the way around. These bundles are ending an entire era of streaming, with its unsatisfying free-for-all of services. This new era may well be better than the one before it. But the dream of streaming as a cheaper, better version of cable is dead.

For a while, it did actually exist. When Netflix launched its streaming service back in 2007, the company pretty much dominated the market without much serious competition. You could watch basically everything with no ads, and for less than $10 a month. Then, beginning at the tail end of the 2010s, all of the big legacy entertainment companies tried to get in on the action. “For much of the past four years, the entertainment industry spent money like drunken sailors to fight the first salvos of the streaming wars,” the media-industry analyst Michael Nathanson wrote in November. The current streaming landscape, despite offering unprecedented abundance, is a nightmare to navigate. To watch entertainment now requires wading through a frustrating array of streaming services: Netflix, Prime Video, and Hulu, yes, but also Peacock, Paramount+, AMC+, and others.

But this hasn’t brought in the types of profits that companies hoped for. Last year, Disney, Comcast, and Paramount collectively lost several billion dollars on streaming. Making and licensing shows and movies, it turns out, is not cheap. And people are willing to pay for only so many streaming subscriptions. Even when the new services managed to attract subscribers, they weren’t able to hold on to them; in industry parlance, churn was too high. Streaming services have tried to recoup their losses by raising prices, creating ad tiers, and cracking down on password sharing.

Going it alone hasn’t worked, so now they’re teaming up. Neither mega-bundle has announced details about costs, but Comcast’s StreamSaver will be sold “at a vastly reduced price” relative to individually subscribing to all three services, the company’s CEO, Brian Roberts, said during the announcement this week. Packaged together and sold at a discount, each streaming service will make less per subscription, but perhaps collectively they will be more competitive and hold on to more of their subscribers. That’s the idea, anyway.

For consumers, these bundles are probably a good thing. There’s a reason so many people rejoiced at the prospect of cutting the cord—but cable was simple. With streaming, keeping track of all your accounts and all your passwords and where to watch whatever you want to watch—that is not simple. And then, just when you think you’ve got it all figured out, one of the services you subscribe to informs you that you’ll have to shell out for the premium tier if you want to watch a certain show or movie. If you can convert three separate subscriptions into a single cheaper one, as the new deals will seemingly allow some people to do, that’s a win.

The new bundles don’t exactly restore order and sanity. The array of overlapping options is itself confusing. In addition to the Disney+/Hulu/Max bundle, there is also a Disney+/Hulu/ESPN+ bundle, which does not include Max. But if you really want to watch sports, you’ll presumably go for the ESPN/Fox/Warner Bros. Discovery bundle, named Venu Sports. And if you’re a Verizon myPlan customer, you can subscribe to a Netflix/Max bundle—even though those two services are part of opposing three-service bundles, as announced over the past two weeks. Making matters even more complicated, some of the bundlers are already themselves bundles. Disney owns Hulu and ESPN. Warner Bros. Discovery owns CNN and Max. Bundles are bundling with bundles.

Even more bundles are likely in the works, and they may save people some money. But they will not resolve the fundamental tension in what people want out of cable, or streaming, or whatever it is that serves them up stuff to watch. On the one hand, we like having everything in one place. On the other, we don’t like paying a lot of money for things we don’t use. Cable satisfied the former desire but not the latter. Streaming, after the fleeting honeymoon period when you could find almost anything on Netflix, satisfied the latter but not the former. With the new bundles, the streamers are trying to strike a balance between the total consolidation of cable and the total chaos of streaming. That new balance may well be superior to the status quo, but the trade-off between having things in one place and paying for things you don’t need will remain. As long as it does, we’ll never feel totally satisfied.

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Tubi is the one, true savior
tubi's pretty handy, especially with throwing youtube-dl at it
I can think of one time _ever_ I hit a movie with copy protection so I couldn't ytdl it. Steel (the Shaq movie sorta related to Superman) of all things
Song of the South? Nope.
yo

WKRP In Cincinnati with the original soundtrack? Nope.
ho

WTF did they do to WKRP? I used to watch that all the time. Shit, I may still have some VHS tapes of it around.
music rights are hard
 
I started using free streaming sites like fmovies early this year and I don’t know why anyone would pay for any streaming service or even use a free-with-ads service when sites like this are available.

I get all the streaming service’s exclusives the same day they’re released, new movies are up as soon as there’s an available cam and they get updated to telesync and then HD as they become available so I can watch with shitty quality immediately or wait for the better quality releases.

Even if everything went back to the streaming golden age tomorrow where it’s all on Netflix for $10 a month, I’d never pay for streaming again.
 
The Dream of Streaming Is Dead

I thought this was going to about convincing all the dudes on Twitch streaming to single-digit audiences to pack up and quit.

It’s a hilarious indictment of cable that customers still shelling out for cable even want additional streaming networks. All that money to the cable company for a thousand channels and still nothing is on.

A lot of the cable packages also come with their built-in On Demand streaming service.

But it mostly gets ignored due to bad UIs, being hidden behind several menus and button clicks and the simple fact that channelsurfing on cable is just a different culture than streaming.

I personally have access to one and I 95% of the time forget it exists, instead choosing to watch stuff I've PVRed just like my dad and granddad would've done with VHS and DVDs.
 
Tubi is the one, true savior

At this point you can save a shit ton of money and avoid all the slop on streaming services by using any of the myriads of "FAST" sites like Pluto or Tubi for background noise and pirating individual shows/buying the DVDs. There's also Philo if you want a few cable channels without spending an arm or a leg; $25 a month is a fuck of a lot better than paying over $70 for shit like YouTube TV.
I don't use Tubi myself because I'm partial to Pluto Tv + Freevee and I have a Roku player which includes the Roku channel.

But I agree FAST channels are the way to go for your daily needs since 90% of modern shows/movies suck ass.

The only "problem" with FAST channels are certain series are only shown on certain FAST channels:
  1. Home Improvement- Roku
  2. Stargate SG1 & Atlantis- Pluto, The movies- Roku + Pluto
  3. Fringe - Freevee
  4. TokuShoutSu - Pluto
Or FAST doesn't have the series like Hercules the Legendary Journeys. They can also drop stuff whenever they want. I actually enjoyed the TMNT 2012 show but Pluto has decided to show Avatar (The Korra one) on their Totally Turtles section.
 
I don't use Tubi myself because I'm partial to Pluto Tv + Freevee and I have a Roku player which includes the Roku channel.

But I agree FAST channels are the way to go for your daily needs since 90% of modern shows/movies suck ass.

The only "problem" with FAST channels are certain series are only shown on certain FAST channels:
  1. Home Improvement- Roku
  2. Stargate SG1 & Atlantis- Pluto, The movies- Roku + Pluto
  3. Fringe - Freevee
  4. TokuShoutSu - Pluto
Or FAST doesn't have the series like Hercules the Legendary Journeys. They can also drop stuff whenever they want. I actually enjoyed the TMNT 2012 show but Pluto has decided to show Avatar (The Korra one) on their Totally Turtles section.
Yeah, I definitely hate how difficult it can be to figure out what channels are exclusive to which. Pluto TV seems to have a decent number of exclusive channels, even if it has a lower total number than many of the others.
 
I don't use Tubi myself because I'm partial to Pluto Tv + Freevee and I have a Roku player which includes the Roku channel.

But I agree FAST channels are the way to go for your daily needs since 90% of modern shows/movies suck ass.

The only "problem" with FAST channels are certain series are only shown on certain FAST channels:
  1. Home Improvement- Roku
  2. Stargate SG1 & Atlantis- Pluto, The movies- Roku + Pluto
  3. Fringe - Freevee
  4. TokuShoutSu - Pluto
Or FAST doesn't have the series like Hercules the Legendary Journeys. They can also drop stuff whenever they want. I actually enjoyed the TMNT 2012 show but Pluto has decided to show Avatar (The Korra one) on their Totally Turtles section.
yeah, even if you want to be legit, a decent antenna for all the .2 channels with old UHF style reruns and the various legit free with ads like tubi and pluto is more than most people really need for basic background noise tv
 
Streaming made sense when it was just netflix and hulu. But now with everyone wanting a piece of the streaming pie and having their own exclusives, it doesn't make sense. We're back at cable tv now. Its cheaper to just pirate and/or buy used TV show boxsets. I'm pretty sure most would be happy with a complete collection of seinfeld, early simpsons, the wire, the sopranos, breaking bad, and the office.

Not to mention all the woke shit that infests new shows.

If I have to subscribe to five different streaming services to watch five different shows then I might as well just have cable. It's such a mess now. Cable has decided if they can't beat them join then. But that just makes cable into more of an unattractive mess. At this point just pirate. To watch things legally is too much of a convoluted mess right now.
 
They were making oodles of money just letting Netflix/Hulu purchase the streaming rights, but none of them could resist trying to vertically integrate and they collectively atomized the market in the process.
How long until the MPAA starts going back to suing random grandmas because her grandson torrented an .mkv of the latest hollywood reboot on her macbook?
 
Oh, now it's dead? Instead of 4 years ago, during the coof when every media company decided it was time to launch their own streaming company? Or hell, 10 years ago when media companies decided to start pulling titles from Netflix when they feared that viewership cut into their profits?
If I had the capital, I'd be looking to start up a business with the goal of becoming the Steam of streaming services. Steam isn't perfect by any means, but holy shit did Gabe actually properly tackle the piracy problem. Even EA came crawling back in the end. Anybody with half a brain saw this coming, shareholders will naturally miss the forest for the trees, demanding short term profit for market dominance. Netflix actually came close, but like Icarus, flew too close to the sun by chasing institutional investment, destroying their "original series" for short term profit.
If somebody actually seriously pursued a privately owned streaming platform that prioritized customer experience, we'd hear about multiple executive suicides at the MPAA within a year.
 
Streaming bundles are like cable, but worse. Unlike cable, which had a single unified guide you could browse, you have to look for things to watch separately per-service, and if there's something specific you're looking for, you have to find which service it's on and hope you have it, otherwise you're paying more just to watch the one thing.

Streaming was great when everything was just on Netflix, you paid a basic fee and could watch just about anything you were looking for. The media companies got greedy, started pulling all their stuff off to make their own crappy streaming services, thinking they'd get their big piece of the pie, but nobody wants that awful experience, so their chunk of content isn't enough to make customers want to pay 10 times the amount for the same content they used to have on a single platform.

Yes, it's driving people back to piracy, except most of the new content that's put out is such shit, it's not even worth pirating. This is what they should be concerned about: nobody even wants to pirate most of their content. If they want to be successful, put everything back on Netflix (or a similar platform), and just ask for a royalty or something based on streams. Or at least federate on some kind of service, and keep the bundles cheap, so people don't feel like they're being cheated. And make some actual good content, not this ESG/DEI bullshit.

But it'll never happen. Their greed and political fuckery will just keep them in a state of perpetual failure.
 
Streaming is just worse cable now if you mainly want it for sports. With the NFL piecing out all the games to every service and still having regional blackouts, you are fucked either way.

Bundling makes sense for these companies though to stop people who just hop between the services when new shows come out, so its only going to get worse from here.
 
I wish they would Let people buy these shows/movies À la carte on an easy to use shop (Like GOG or Steam) without DRM. I doubt that will happen though so piracy is the closest option.
iirc you can throw ytdl at some of them if you learn how to put in your username/pass
pretty sure I've grabbed a movie or two off Amazon Prime that way
 
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