Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Uncle Buck]

Who the fuck knows at this point? I'm still working out how one of my favorite shitposting forums has asked SCOTUS to rule on a slack-jawed faggot's attempt to cover up his crusade to force women to fuck him. That's not something that crops up in everyday life.

Yeesh… when you put it like that it just makes the whole thing seem so tiresome.

 

[DumbDude43]

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should be renamed "the tomlinson-greer effect"

 

[trash cat]

. He seems to think just FILING a motion to stay automatically gives you a stay? What an absolute bozo.

Russell doesn't actually think that. He's playing games with the court.

He's a serial vexatious litigant. He knows a motion is not automatically granted.

Russell knows he needs extra time. "Whoops I'm so dumb I don't know my own address"

He'd already been working on the "I'm too retarded to understand deadlines " legal argument for at least six days now since his motion to stay was denied.

How else did he manage to get this massive piece of shit legal filling cut and pasted together within 30 minutes?

It's a document he was already working on combined with some some shocked whining because he wasn't expecting the venue change.

 

[obsdj]

"I'm too retarded to understand deadlines "

Classic sovereign citizen move. Keep insisting you don't understand, because if you can't understand, then they can't [fill in the blank].

 

[Your Starter for 10]

In all honesty, I do hope the court does reconsider the motion to change venues. So that they can have another good chuckle.

While they haven't been as draconian and heavy-handed as I'd like, they have done a good job of shitting all over the plaintiff and his "filings" while maintaining the appearance of decorum and neutrality.

 

[Null]

The enabling act of 1934 vest authority to interpret the Rules of Civil Procedure solely within the Supreme Court. Absent clear guidance from the SCOTUS, the Circuit courts act on their own to interpret the rules in their own jurisdiction within the confines of existing SCOTUS precedents. The 10th circuits ruling, while persuasive to how the 11th should interpret the rules, is not binding.

Can you provide citations for everything except your first sentence? Especially in regards to Rule 12.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Can you provide citations for everything except your first sentence? Especially in regards to Rule 12.

Sure once I get home. At work right now

 

[Cynically Insane]

If Russ has to go to Florida, he's going to get arrested for solicitation the night before he has to be in court.

Wonder if he's going to try fundraising? I'd have to think his long-suffering parents have washed their hands of his legal antics by this point.

Russ must be lured into Polk County.

In Polk county Russ will go seeking the affection of a sex worker. He will get caught in one of Sheriff Grady Judd's notorious human trafficking stings. Judd will have a picture of Russ to show the cameras at the press conference and say "Did you hear what I said folks? This man doesn't think that he should be arrested because of his disability. Well I've got news for you Mr. Greer, this isn't Nevada and in Polk County Florida if you break the law we are going to send you to jail."

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Null's never gonna tell us which one of us is Clarence Thomas?

Everyone knows it's @paintingatree

 

[RodgerDodger]

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I love how you can tell this section was slotted in. The fontsize isn't even the same as the rest, and the argument is next level hilariously bad. 'I have some friends in Utah and my alma matter (lol) is there.'
Must've been a last minute brainfart he decided to add before submitting.

Like I said, he was clearly preparing his "i'm a fucking retard" plea as an answer to why he failed to respond to any of Hardin's motions, and court orders such as the scheduling conference, etc. He was expecting the Judge to slap him on the wrist and take pity. And then instead he got "It's all moving to Florida bitches! so ordered." So he's slapping together whatever he can in the futile belief the train can be stopped.

 

[Betonhaus]

Why Florida again? What's in Florida?
I'm a little hazy on how the change of venue thing is chosen and triggered.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

He can't withdraw. If he does Josh has good cause to claim malicious intent and demand all his costs be paid. He crossed the Rubicon by opposing the venue change.

Dumb question - why is opposing the venue change a crossing of the Rubicon? Russ spergs about literally everything in his filings. Why wouldn’t the court just write this off as yet more pro se nonsense?

I mean, it’s always been obvious Russ has been Malicious. But my understanding of the courts is they’re supposed to “play dumb.”

 

[kcbbq]

What I want for early Christmas is for Hardin to keep sending stuff to Russ's supposed address that he fucked up and the new court not emailing him everything.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Why Florida again? What's in Florida?

Literally in the OP dude:

A Motion to Transfer, that is, for a change of venue to the Northern District of Florida, on the grounds that Null is a domiciliary of Florida despite currently living in Eastern Europe, while none of the parties reside in Utah, where the case is currently located, nor did any of the relevant events in the case transpire there;

 

[waffle]

Why not indeed. And that is what makes this fun. I would love to see the 11th circuit forced to do contortions trying to justify what the 10th did.

Which is why I hope SCOTUS see's this case for the potential disaster it is and grants the Writ of Certiorari. After all, the Kiwi Farms is fucking retarded, its run by a mad man willing to fight to the death and has regular posters who know what the Enabling Act of 1934 is.

You know, that law that only gives SCOTUS the statutory power to interpret the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure

I don't think they will. I think if it gets to them they'll just throw the 10th circuit under the bus. Saying the other court was clearly erroneous in its application of the law and just bulldozing through would likely be the easiest way for them to clean everything up while getting into the fewest esoteric arguments about the exact interactions of rules and motion timing.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Wasn't he effectively humored along with every other case he had? It may not be a complete lie for him to say that he doesn't know how the legal system works as he always had someone willing to clean up after him and wipe his ass.

Bro is a paralegal. He should know how the system works.

Also, does he still have the ability to just withdraw his lawsuit?

Yes, but he would have to file his withdrawal in Florida. Like @mindlessobserver said, he can't withdraw in Utah anymore.

Yup, I was right.

He seems to think just FILING a motion to stay automatically gives you a stay?

Interestingly enough, Mr. Hardin informed him at least twice that he was wrong on this. So, it's not like Russ really didn't know.

Case goes to SCOTUS and the Kiwi Farms now has a chance to set a historic legal precedent.
Troons seethe and call journoscum allies to report on this historic and retarded case so that it can be archived on Wikipedia.
Normies get alerted, some look into who the fuck Russel Greer is.
It is revealed that he tried to sue Taylor Swift and wrote a retarded book about it.
Swifties activate, giant shitshow initiated.
Clarence Thomas reads Russel's stupid filings in the most deadpan way possible.

Will it all go down like that? Probably not, but you know what? It could and it's fun to dream...

Personally I hope he replies to SCOTUS (deadline in April) case with just a loveletter to the four Female Supreme Court Justices. Given the entire Fremantle case was essentially over this thing, I can believe he'd do it.

Also why the fuck did the Magistrate Judge call nool "pro se?" The motion was filed by Matthew fucking Hardin.

Like I said, not a legal document if someone doesn't mislabel the party.

Is there any legal journalists who have taken interest in this case and begun to dissect it to a wider audience?

One law professor at Standford dissected the 10th Circuit's ruling and expressed his shock that it overwrote like 40 years of copyright caselaw.

Going to need you to explain the joke, sorry. Is it because changing venues isn't a "jurisdiction issue"?

He's arguing about something Null never did. He doesn't understand the difference between a Rule 12 (b) defense and a 28 U.S.C.S. § 1404 motion to change venue. Mr. Hardin understands, the court understood, but he doesn't. Also, like @AnOminous said, jurisdiction and venue are completely different issues. Funnier still, Rule 12 (b) (3) has a "improper venue" defense, which I think was what Russ was talking about, but he mistakenly spent the argument talking about Rule 12 (b) (1), (2) lack of jurisdiction.

tldr: The entire segment is pointless because it attacks a thing Null never did, and it's so stupid that it's actually funny

but I think the appeals decision will be considered the "law of the case" even if it wouldn't otherwise apply in that circuit.

Read @mindlessobserver and @Tathagata 's post on this. There's a good chance you're incorrect about that.

 

[Pedophobe]

Swifties activate, giant shitshow initiated.

This is what I'm holding out for. It's going to be impossible for the MSM to report on this without putting the terms "neo-nazi" and "Taylor Swift" in the headline.

 

[waffle]

Read @mindlessobserver and @Tathagata 's post on this. There's a good chance you're incorrect about that.

Yeah, that's what I get for posting before I catch up a hundred percent. It looks like the transferring court probably can decide they want to toss it, and I can't imagine that they won't. Thinking of doing a trial with Russ as the pro se plaintiff is horrifying. Can you imagine trying to make a record with the way he talks?

Even if it were the law of the case, I don't think it a stretch at all to say that the other court was clearly erroneous and we can just disregard them.

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

I forgot to mention how he called us a "terrorist network". Welcome to the Kiwi Caliphate brothers.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Personally I hope he replies to SCOTUS (deadline in April) case with just a loveletter to the four Female Supreme Court Justices. Given the entire Fremantle case was essentially over this thing, I can believe he'd do it.

Are they 9's or 10's?

I can see the Greer case actually prompting Thomas to ask a question during Oral Arguments. "What The Fuck?"