UK Jobseekers who turn down work should be conscripted, says senior Tory MP - Richard Drax suggests that drafting work-shy citizens into the Armed Forces could ease labour crisis


Young people who turn down several jobs should be conscripted for two years, a senior Conservative MP has said.
Richard Drax, a member of the Commons defence select committee, argued younger jobseekers in particular were “not prepared to contribute to our country” and that drafting them into the Armed Forces could ease the worklessness crisis.
More than nine million people of working age have dropped out of the jobs market, with at least five million of those claiming benefits.
In January, Downing Street was forced to rule out conscription after the head of the Army warned that British civilians would need to fight Russia in the event of a war.
Mr Drax, a former Army captain, told The House magazine: “In some cases, particularly among some of the young, they have got to a point where, for whatever reason, they’re not prepared to contribute to our country and to serve their country.
“If they can’t be encouraged to do that, then maybe we’ve got to a point where they should be told to do so.
“And if they’ve refused three offers of a job, or whatever the number would be, and they say ‘I’m sorry, I’m not doing any of that’, you then say – in which case you must go and do two years in the Armed Forces.”

The MP for South Dorset went on to suggest young offenders could have their sentences shortened for good behaviour if they agreed to join the Army.
“Let’s say [a young person] has 10 pints of beer, slugs somebody and is locked up for it,” he said.
“If you get that sort of behaviour, you could, as a magistrate, say to these young men and women ‘you’ve got an option – if you’re a good boy or girl, you’ll come out, but you must do a year in the Armed Forces’.”
Mr Drax acknowledged that his ideas would not be readily accepted, but pointed to the huge number of casualties sustained by Ukrainian forces as proof of the need to bolster the size of the British Army.
The military has been reduced to its smallest size for centuries, prompting General Sir Patrick Sanders, Chief of the General Staff, to warn British citizens to be prepared for a call-up if Nato went to war with Russia in comments that were promptly rejected by Downing Street.
Only seven per cent of those aged between 18 and 40 would volunteer for military service if a third world war broke out, YouGov polling found earlier in the year, rising to 11 per cent if the UK was under “imminent threat of invasion”.
In the first scenario, a further 21 per cent said they would not volunteer but would serve if called up, a number which increased to 23 per cent if the UK faced imminent threat.

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Richard Drax, full name Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax, is from the ancient aristocratic landowning family the Baronetcy of Dunsany; the second oldest peerage in Ireland, created 1462, aka one of the families responsible for the Great Famine. His great-uncle was Lord Dunsany, one of the early fantasy writers. Richard served as a Coldstream Guard, the personal bodyguards to Elizabeth II.
They were also a major slaveowning family in the colonies, were paid off to free all their slaves but still own all the plantations; afaik he is the only person to actually have Reparations demanded off him - Bermuda is suing him to the right to the plantations as he / his family have still been earning off them the entire time.
The Draxes have now pivoted into climate friendly business, rewilding their estates etc, but he keeps getting into trouble.
Workers in his wood pellet burning power station took him to court on charges the wood dust was giving them respiratory conditions, but the charges were dropped.
More recently there have been several pay strikes from workers. Coincidentally, Drax bought a bunch of robot dogs to perform safety patrols around the stations.

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They've named this one Sparky.
 
The Tories / Conservative Party / current government outsourced military recruiting to a private firm, Capita, that they had outsourced shit to before and they already knew, was shit. Recruitment completely tanked and the army kept complaining and the gov kept ignoring them; so they said that if recruitment keeps falling, they might have to make up the difference with conscription. This went viral as it was intended to do, and the entire country, then the internet, flipped out about it and made it all very embarrassing. All MP commentary since then has been about making it less embarrassing for the Tories.
 
Friendly reminder that fedposting the highest ranking government official you can get your hands on once they hand you a firearm is a perfectly acceptable alternative to dying for Israel.
 
“In some cases, particularly among some of the young, they have got to a point where, for whatever reason, they’re not prepared to contribute to our country and to serve their country.
“If they can’t be encouraged to do that, then maybe we’ve got to a point where they should be told to do so.
“And if they’ve refused three offers of a job, or whatever the number would be, and they say ‘I’m sorry, I’m not doing any of that’, you then say – in which case you must go and do two years in the Armed Forces.”
Go ahead, the UK is desperately in need of a civil war. The whole West is, really.
 
In a robust, healthy nation with a functioning society, National Service would be an ideal. But all this will accomplish, assuming it wouldn't backfire and also assuming it goes ahead at all and isn't complete Tory bullshit, is arming chavs and Sub-Saharan African rapefugees with firearms.
 
The British media has been really pushing stories about conscription for the past couple of months, and it just doesn't make sense. For one thing, recruitment is handled by a private firm called Capita that is notorious for its incompetence and glacial pace, it can take many months for an application to be approved. Why are they trying to conscript people when they currently impose so many barriers for people who actually want to be there?

Secondly, the entry requirements would be far more stringent now than during the World Wars. In 1939 if they looked at a man who had both his arms and legs and pinky promised he was 18 they could sign him up. Nowadays that same man might have ADHD, or autism, or a plethora of other invisible or minor conditions that would disqualify him. Not to mention the soaring obesity rates. They'd be hard-pressed to conscript that many young men who would be eligible.

Thirdly, conscripts generally suck as soldiers. In every country that has it conscription turns into a glorified babysitting service for adolescent boys. At best they are cannon fodder to throw at the enemy so the professional soldiers can mop up, at worst they're actively a nuisance that undermines combat cohesion. There's just no sensible reason for this discussion to be happening that I can see.
 
Society as a whole would be better off if these people got "conscripted" into highway departments and were forced to maintain roads and infrastructure instead of dying over pointless foreign wars.
Well, that's what I'd have the immigrants doing. They're otherwise sitting in hotels all day doing fuck all. Get them out doing work on roads and infrastructure, work them for their keep, and they hopefully will be too tired to rape and rob.
The NGOS would hate it.
 
In and of itself I don't really disagree. Able bodied and sound of mind enough to pass recruitment standards but chronically incapable/unwilling to get employment and thus expect benefits? Good news, kid, we have just the job for you.

I think what tanks it is you don't want to flood your armed forces with people who increasingly dislike their own country and government, or are recent migrants with fuck all attachment to it. Like someone else said, make them fill in potholes instead. Work for the Dole programs have positives and negatives, but in an age of mass immigration and welfare spending I think the potential benefits are getting more attractive by the day. I genuinely think it's one of those concepts where if a government implemented it with good principles then it would be very effective. I just don't trust many governments to achieve that between DEI bullshit, tonguing corporations' arseholes, pork barreling, and just generally being inept pieces of shit.

It's an interesting discussion point at the very least.
 
Why are they trying to conscript people when they currently impose so many barriers for people who actually want to be there?

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There's just no sensible reason for this discussion to be happening that I can see.
"'ello there, Charlie. According to our online snoops, you posted 'Fuck the Tories' on that 4Chan site, so you're being volunteered for the Free Ukraine Task Force. Now, now, mustn't complain, it's for your own good. Don't you worry 'bout your sisters there, we got some luverly immigrants from Pakistan who've promised to take excellent care of them. Now c'mon, on yer feet there, that's a good lad."
 
For one thing, recruitment is handled by a private firm called Capita that is notorious for its incompetence and glacial pace
They also handled food for the army at some point (not sure if they still do), turned out to be rotten/not fit for consumption.

Cunt never had a real job, he served in the army as a coldstream guard but never saw conflict (served 1978-87) so he sat on his ass 'protecting' the monarchy. Then became journoscum, and then became a politician. So its a bit rich him calling anyone else a leech.
 
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On one hand, I understand the sentiment. There are a lot of people on the dole who shouldn't be, from lowlife families who've lived on benefits for generations and have kids growing up intending to do the same, to twenty-somethings who wasted three years doing some meaningless Mickey Mouse course at uni and think they're above the shelf-stacking jobs that are actually available in their area. These people have no work ethic, and need something to scare them into attempting to get a job.

The problem is that the DWP are beyond parody levels of incompetent when it comes to people with actual disabilities that leave them unable to work, from mandating people who've been disabled since birth to go to re-evaluation meetings every year, to putting them on the regular jobseekers' allowance and recommending them jobs they're physically incapable of doing. I imagine the armed forces would pull out of a system like this very quickly after being sent a bunch of wheelchair-bound amputees they can't do anything with.
 
Suggest most of the jobseekers who would face conscription couldn't make it through basic training. Agree those people would make more of a contribution working on infrastructure projects or working as, say, porters and cleaners in old-age homes or National Health Service facilities.
 
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