Is anime getting cucked about violence too?

Maybe you're just reading more bitch made manga/anime or the more popular stuff is geared towards a general audience and is less violent.
DC and Marvel were always the good boy comics. Image, Dark Horse, whatever indie stuff is still around had plenty of violence(and boobs). It all depends what's selling. It could also be as you get older you don't seek out the violent for the sake of violent anymore.
 
The funny thing is I actually am enjoying Charlotte so far--ironically tho the friend who told me about it described it as a show he remembered hating, so I'm expecting it to go off the rails.

Thing is I actually considered doing a "sadbrains" post similar to the one I did for video games, just about anime... the thing is though with vidya, there's easily definable things I can latch onto that suck. With anime though it would probably come off as schizo whining, because I'm never sure if the anime is the problem or if I'm just having a mood swing.

A lot of anime I watch recently tend to feel like "Huh, that was neat" personified, unless something really stood out... and usually for me, something stands out because it bothers me, which makes me sound way more critical than I really am.
skimmed through the long posts on the sadbrained thread and they honestly make me think that you're just burnt out on entertainment in general

This is the entire fucking point of Higurashi, and it's gore-hounds like you crying for more scenes of lolis getting eviscerated who've ruined future entries for the rest of us.
just because some characters deserve to die does not mean that the kills have to be as detailed as possible with the gore
also, ryukishi is clearly the one who fucked everything up after BT was no longer there to tard wrangle him
gore-hounds like you
are you forgetting that half the fanbase is just rika x satoko coomers?
 
are you forgetting that half the fanbase is just rika x satoko coomers?
I ignored them for my sanity until Shitsugou made it front-and-center where Ryukishi became more open about his lesbian fetish. Was just too fucked to ignore at that point, and those fans are to blame, too.
 
just because some characters deserve to die does not mean that the kills have to be as detailed as possible with the gore
Yeah and its actually disappointing how so many people--even the people who are actually trying to be reasonable--think that the only problem is "hurr OP wants more gore" when my major complaint--and I clearly outlined this several million times--was logic and thematic issues with how its handled.

DC and Marvel were always the good boy comics. Image, Dark Horse, whatever indie stuff is still around had plenty of violence(and boobs). It all depends what's selling. It could also be as you get older you don't seek out the violent for the sake of violent anymore.
Like I said, its not just that I want violence. I want the content to be intelligent.
 
Those are rather minor examples. The major works like Gundam and Dragon Ball still have no problems with the good guy killing the enemy. That, and anime is a large genre. So some works might cuck out, but others don't.
But with the violence castrated. The fights are less brutal, not only because of a lack of blood & gore, but detail.

Before if an enemy was disintegrated by a blast they'd often be shown in excruciating detail falling apart, like Cell and Buu, or even just minions like Dore of Cooler's Armored Squadron. Compare it to Vegeta killing Ginyu in DBS and it just feels much less visceral.

The only halfway decently satisfying kill in DBS was against Cell Max getting shot through the head. Not a drop of fluid but it looked good enough.

Man I hope so. I hope the entire fucking thing just gets so cucked, it withers away.
I, too, want the only media that isn't completely worshipping fags and niggers to wither away.
 
Inuyashiki is terrible example. There was a scene where the bad guy shoots a dad in front of his kid, making him fall on his kid and fucking drown him. The whole point of the show was good guy savings lives to feel alive and bad guy taking lives to feel alive, not exactly your typical capeshit.
And to be completely fair to Inuyashiki, episode three was so out of left field that even when I was watching it with friends, I joked "oh, sorry, I think I put in a different anime by mistake." The rest of the show was a solid story, but that episode especially feels like an episode of a completely different anime.

OP seems to have a habit to complain about things but barely scratching the surface of the matter (and not providing concrete examples that could support his main argument too), not that it stops him to ramble about random things either way.
... It's weird to know I have a reputation.

But thing is I'm not really making an argument. There's a reason the title is in the form of a question--I'm wondering "is this really a thing or is it just a coincidence that every anime I've seen that came out fairly recently has been like this?"

Then again, I'm someone who consumes books more than the animation format.
I'm thinking of going the same way. Manga still has the vibe of being personal and hand-drawn (even when I'm guessing it really isn't) but anime is way too glossy and processed these days.

This is the entire fucking point of Higurashi, and it's gore-hounds like you crying for more scenes of lolis getting eviscerated who've ruined future entries for the rest of us.
I'm curious where this came from because I don't see where I said anything about wanting "lolis getting eviscerated." In fact I never said I wanted gore.

And what's all this talk about "ruining" the future entries? It's a story whose ending has already been written. You know the solution to the big mystery driving the whole plot. Anything past the Kai season of the anime (or its equivalent events in other mediums) was going to be shameless cash-grabbery that had no reason to exist.
 
Anyhoo if you want to complain about lack of violence in TV anime, take it up with TV Tokyo, they got reamed by parents and broadcast standards when they aired a particularly violent episode of Evangelion, and as a result, Gainax's budget got slashed. That's around the time they began censoring violence on TV, although the signs of them censoring themselves was around for years. The Fist of the North Star movie is infamous because of its censorship, and it's believed the masters were the ones that got censored (because Toei are fuck-ups like that), or have been lost/destroyed since. Supposedly an uncensored version was released theatrically in like India or someplace around there, but no such reels have shown up.

This is why there was hope that Netflix was going to bring about the next renaissance or something like that because they would definitely allow violence that rivaled the OVAs of old, but they still seem a bit subdued. At the very least, fund a new Apocalypse Zero anime and prove the Japanese aren't pussies when it comes to the gore.
 
Chainsaw Man and Devilman Crybaby are fairly recent examples of quite violent animes:

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ONA tend to be the last bastion for violent anime. Network television in most country limit showtime and make you subject to network notes. The American localizers don't see to keen on violence. It will probably never be like the days of OVAs. Studios didn't need permission and approval. There are some cuckish gatekeepers and middle men that have ruined a lot of the fun.

Some very gory shows that are recent(ish):
  • Blood-C
  • Devilman Crybaby
  • Corpse Party: Tortured Souls
  • Terra Formars
 
Lol not in the slightest. This season alone has Sousou no Frieren, Ishura, and Solo Leveling which have featured some pretty gory scenes. It's not a facet of most mainstream series and does get toned down depending on the broadcaster, but outside of foreign censors production committees have no issue with it. If anything ecchi shows see more censorship given Japan's schitzophrenic attitude around lewd antics.

Some very gory shows that are recent(ish):
  • Blood-C
  • Devilman Crybaby
  • Corpse Party: Tortured Souls
  • Terra Formars
To add to this there's also Deadman Wonderland, Mirai Nikki, Shiki, Claymore, and the old staple Elfen Lied. You're not going to lack for examples once you venture away from shounen and baby's first psychological mindfuck.
 
Inyuashiki -- (No, this isn't the show about the dog-demon-man in Feudal Japan. This show is about an old guy who gets powers from aliens. The name just happens to sound similar).

So in the third episode, the title character happens to take out a gang of Yakuza by turning into this super laser machine. Like... he sends lasers through their eyes and everything....

.... And then he bullshits in something about how they're all actually still alive, just "rendered encapable of hurting anyone."
I don't understand how you could come to this conclusion about the show that at the same time has the antagonist casually going on incel-tier mass shootings on a nightly basis with no bullshit about it. That particular example is because of the character himself, he didn't want to kill them, it suits who he is and shows how he acts in contrast to the antagonist.

Also Japan has always been more squeamish about violence, the ultra-violent examples you used are movies, or OVAs and such, things on actual television are pretty toned down or outright censored, you can even see this in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, which despite the manga being aimed at kids, some of the violent scenes were censored for the TV broadcast.

But otherwise no, I wouldn't say Japan is getting cucked about violence, you just have to look in the right places.
 
Take it up with TV Tokyo, they got reamed by parents and broadcast standards when they aired a particularly violent episode of Evangelion
It didn't help that Eva had a 18:30 or 6:30 pm timeslot on Wednesday. More eyes and more complaints. Most violent anime are shown late night since then. For an example, TV Tokyo also aired Chainsaw Man but at midnight.
 
have you not read umineko? ryukishi is a retard who literally depicted his critics as demon goats and had his characters kill them
there is also gou/sotsu which have violence explicit to the point where rika is shown getting disemboweled and split in half by satoko

it really is just the author being autistic for this one
"You vill NOT like Erika or Bern!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rika and Satoko (satoko my favourite :) i don't commission porn of her i swear) ar e great morally superior killing bad dont kill just be frends :) the power of frendshit will suave the dey!" -Ryukishit in another timeline maybe.

Higurashi and Umineko (horrifically boring and in Umineko's case incredibly insulting don't read them I beg you) are ancient works (2002 and 2007).

I'm curious as to when OP thinks this """anime is getting cucked""" started? To me it seems like anime in general has always been cucked from the beginning, Japanese people generally don't like violence. They have a very feel good coom your brain small girls that make you feel good culture over there and you see it a lot in anime and the games they play.

It's possible that it has probably been getting worse recently but also, are you sure you're not just actively watching garbage in the first place? Most anime I have seen is not very good, rare occasions of course but usually it sucks. Modern anime is probably especially bad for this considering how much brain-dead shit there is now thanks to how cheap animation has gotten and how lucrative of a business it probably is thanks to pathetic Japs buying all the merch and shit. I don't know nor do I really care to be honest with you.

My advice is just stop watching modern stuff. It's all bad. Go watch Made In Abyss if you really want something fucked up and is recent.
 
But with the violence castrated. The fights are less brutal, not only because of a lack of blood & gore, but detail.

Before if an enemy was disintegrated by a blast they'd often be shown in excruciating detail falling apart, like Cell and Buu, or even just minions like Dore of Cooler's Armored Squadron. Compare it to Vegeta killing Ginyu in DBS and it just feels much less visceral.

The only halfway decently satisfying kill in DBS was against Cell Max getting shot through the head. Not a drop of fluid but it looked good enough.
The fights with Goku Black got pretty brutal at times. Sure, no one died, but that's because they retreat before they can get killed, and the Merged Zamasu at the end was literally sabered in half from balls to brains by Trunks.

Now if only it ended there instead of Zamasu magically coming back and killing all the people Trunks was fighting to protect.........

Lol not in the slightest. This season alone has Sousou no Frieren, Ishura, and Solo Leveling which have featured some pretty gory scenes. It's not a facet of most mainstream series and does get toned down depending on the broadcaster, but outside of foreign censors production committees have no issue with it. If anything ecchi shows see more censorship given Japan's schitzophrenic attitude around lewd antics.

To add to this there's also Deadman Wonderland, Mirai Nikki, Shiki, Claymore, and the old staple Elfen Lied. You're not going to lack for examples once you venture away from shounen and baby's first psychological mindfuck.
My point exactly. Violence in anime didn't go away; it just doubled-down.
 
The fights with Goku Black got pretty brutal at times. Sure, no one died, but that's because they retreat before they can get killed, and the Merged Zamasu at the end was literally sabered in half from balls to brains by Trunks.

Now if only it ended there instead of Zamasu magically coming back and killing all the people Trunks was fighting to protect.........
Zamaau was cut in half, yeah, but again, totally bloodless. They'd be better off finishing him in a way which didn't spotlight that nobody has blood in DBS. They do look like plastic now, maybe everyone being toys is a discreet retcon.

Compare that to Frieza being sliced in half, that shit is brutal.

As for the ending of the arc, I'm glad it didn't just have a happy ending, personally. It was also Zeno who killed everyone, technically.
 
I don't understand how you could come to this conclusion about the show that at the same time has the antagonist casually going on incel-tier mass shootings on a nightly basis with no bullshit about it. That particular example is because of the character himself, he didn't want to kill them, it suits who he is and shows how he acts in contrast to the antagonist.
Yeah, I understood that much.

The thing is two deals:

One, like I said elsewhere, that episode felt really out of place--like they just wanted an episode where their superpowered old man fights the yakuza. Watching it the first time really made me feel like I had put in a different anime by accident.

Second though... since the whole point IS that dude wants to be more of a classical hero and like you said, its contrasted against that dude who casually murders entire families....

... why the fuck then did the writers choose to include an episode where they wrote "he turns into a super death machine and totally unloads on a room full of Yakuza, who despite all having lasers and all manner of weaponry turned on them that pierced through their eyes and limbs, are said to have survived?"

I can name two easy solutions right here: Solution one--don't write this episode. Solution two--if the episode has to exist for some reason.. even in-story the alien weaponry seems to have come out when dude was unconscious. Have him wake up, be horrified that he killed people and have this further inform his moral values (and his reprehension/disgust at the other guy who kills callously).

FWIW I actually liked what I saw of Inuyashiki, its just that episode in particular felt really off. Maybe I'm just bitching about a bad filler ep, I dunno.

It's possible that it has probably been getting worse recently but also, are you sure you're not just actively watching garbage in the first place? Most anime I have seen is not very good, rare occasions of course but usually it sucks.
The funny thing is, of the three examples I posted in my op... the only show I called outright bad is Higurashi. Charlotte is fun so far and I liked what I watched of Inuyashiki.

I find it funny that so many people are reading this topic and assuming its just "OP wants more gore" when I've stated several times, that's not the problem--I just made the argument again this very post.

Also this weird association of "not as violent = is garbage."

I mean, modern anime usually is garbage, but the toned-down violence isn't the major factor. Though I do agree with @SSj_Ness that fight scenes used to be more visceral and impactful.

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Just to make this clear--


Here's what I call "getting cucked on violence."

Keep in mind, this is a general list--not limited to just anime and manga, and not specifically relating to the three examples I gave in the OP.

"Getting cucked on violence" is when the story

A - Introduces a situation where the hero killing someone would totally make sense/be understandible.

B - Specifically calls attention to the fact the hero won't or doesn't kill/has or will solve the problem without getting blood on their hands.

C - Then proceeds to have that same hero or heroes use means or methods that either

C-A - ask you to buy into some scheme or workaround that wouldn't have even worked in an episode of Care Bears, but only worked in whatever anime because The Writer Said So.
Common hallmarks of this issue are

-characters having easy access to hard-to-get resources--like, say, fireproof clothing--sometimes without any explanation.
-it asks you to believe something implausible.
-the given plan actually wouldn't solve the given issue at all, and only works because of a deus ex machina
-the non-violent solution would actually still not work and/or would still leave the heroes with consequences to deal with, but the show just assumes all is good and the bad guys in question just never come up again.

or

C-B - would have actually STILL likely resulted in a body count, and if they don't it is, again, only because The Writer Said So, logic be damned.

And especially

D - The story in question had no reason to even bring it up. Or if it had to, there were several ways they could've done it better or make it less retarded.

EDIT Forgot to mention one:

E - The one "cucked" moment stands in start contrast to how the rest of the show has been--for example if its been otherwise unafraid of violence or realistic consequences but then suddenly pulls this this (it would be similar to, for example, if Tom and Jerry suddenly decided to portray its violence realistically after years of it being all slapstick cartoony).
 
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... why the fuck then did the writers choose to include an episode where they wrote "he turns into a super death machine and totally unloads on a room full of Yakuza, who despite all having lasers and all manner of weaponry turned on them that pierced through their eyes and limbs, are said to have survived?"

I can name two easy solutions right here: Solution one--don't write this episode. Solution two--if the episode has to exist for some reason.. even in-story the alien weaponry seems to have come out when dude was unconscious. Have him wake up, be horrified that he killed people and have this further inform his moral values (and his reprehension/disgust at the other guy who kills callously).

FWIW I actually liked what I saw of Inuyashiki, its just that episode in particular felt really off. Maybe I'm just bitching about a bad filler ep, I dunno.
I'm not fully grasping your problem with the scene but you have to remember this isn't a situation where it is a person using a weapon, the guns aren't a separate object on his person, he is the weapon itself, from head to toe, and as such his sub-conscious and morals play into how his body reacts, similar to how a professional fighters can pull their punches during sparring without even thinking about it. I haven't watched the show in years but if I remember right that was literally the first time he was pushed to that degree and he realizes he has to act and assert himself over people in order to save innocents. Having him actually kill the people, regardless of his reaction after the fact, would still result in a different character and thought process the author didn't want to explore, and no this wasn't filler it was in the manga.

His goal isn't to be a "classical type of hero" the point of the character was "I feel alive when I help others" while the antagonist's is "I feel alive when I kill others" so to have the protag kill people, even if for a good reason, wouldn't fit into this foil.

This is from the same author who created Gantz, so he isn't afraid to be violent and gory when he wants, it was simply not the vision he wanted for the character or the point of the scene. Regardless if you liked the scene or not, the point is the fact he didn't kill the yakuza wasn't some contrived way to censor violence.
 
Network television in Japan has plenty of restrictions just like in the States. That said I think that there's a good chunk of stuff that's left out intentionally from the broadcast version so that they can sell physical media. DVD/BD versions of anime have a habit these days of using that release to not only uncensor stuff but also redraw or fix other various issues with the animation. There was a pretty comprehensive website for the JoJo anime that went over changes which ranged from small edits to entire scenes being redrawn for the BD release.
 
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