Why self-checkout has been an inconvenient 'failure' for both shoppers and stores

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Self-checkout kiosks became increasingly common in stores in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and retailers hailed them as a major convenience for shoppers.

But journalist Amanda Mull, in a biting article published by The Atlantic on October 19, stresses that self-checkout has turned out be the polar opposite of "convenient." Self-checkout, according to Mull, has been a headache for consumers as well as stores.

Mull recalls that in the past, the argument for self-checkout was "scan your stuff, plunk it in a bag, and you're done. Long checkout lines would disappear."

But the journalist adds that the reality of self-checkout has been much different.

"You still have to wait in line," Mull laments. "The checkout kiosks bleat and flash when you fail to set a purchase down in the right spot. Scanning those items is sometimes a crapshoot — wave a barcode too vigorously in front of an uncooperative machine, and suddenly, you've scanned it two or three times. Then, you need to locate the usually lone employee charged with supervising all of the finicky kiosks, who will radiate exasperation at you while scanning her ID badge and tapping the kiosk's touch screen from pure muscle memory."

Mull adds, "If you want to buy something that even might carry some kind of arbitrary purchase restriction — not just obvious things such as alcohol, but also, products as seemingly innocuous as a generic antihistamine — well, maybe don't do that."

Self-checkout, according to Mull, has not only been a hassle for shoppers — it has been expensive for retailers, as "the average four-kiosk setup runs around $125,000." And when stores cut their staffs, she notes, theft became more common.

Some retailers, Mull reports, realize that self-checkout has problems and are cutting back on it — or at least making adjustments.

"Costco is stationing more staffers in its self-checkout areas," Mull reports. "ShopRite is adding cashiers back into stores where it had trialed a self-checkout-only model, citing customer backlash. None of this is an indication that self-checkout is over, exactly. But several decades in, the kiosks as Americans have long known them are beginning to look like a failure."
 
While annoying to have to deal with the times it doesn't work rarely, When it works it just works. I don't have to deal with a cashier asking what I'm going to do with what I bought.
Scanning those items is sometimes a crapshoot — wave a barcode too vigorously in front of an uncooperative machine, and suddenly, you've scanned it two or three times. Then, you need to locate the usually lone employee charged with supervising all of the finicky kiosks, who will radiate exasperation at you while scanning her ID badge and tapping the kiosk's touch screen from pure muscle memory."

If you get scanned two items instead of one you just remove one on the touch screen lmao.
No it will go "Approval needed" and lock you out of scanning more stuff. At least in my experience.
Whatever journo wrote this article is just bitching for the sake of bitching.
Yes.
 
"You still have to wait in line," Mull laments.
The only time I used to end up in a line for the self-checkout was during the holiday season when people were shopping for Thanksgiving/Xmas dinners.

That was until recently when the store decided to close half of the self-checkouts for no apparent reason though I suspect it is due to theft. Around the same time they also put in gates so you cannot leave through the unattended entrance side without being noticed...at least in theory. The sensors are super sensitive and you could probably just wave a hand in front of them or something but I guess even the most minor barriers stop some percentage of thieves.
"The checkout kiosks bleat and flash when you fail to set a purchase down in the right spot. Scanning those items is sometimes a crapshoot — wave a barcode too vigorously in front of an uncooperative machine, and suddenly, you've scanned it two or three times. Then, you need to locate the usually lone employee charged with supervising all of the finicky kiosks, who will radiate exasperation at you while scanning her ID badge and tapping the kiosk's touch screen from pure muscle memory."
I have not had a problem with the weight sensors in a long time. I do seem to swipe too quickly which seems to make the machine think I am stealing or something and I do have to have an attendant come over.
Mull adds, "If you want to buy something that even might carry some kind of arbitrary purchase restriction — not just obvious things such as alcohol, but also, products as seemingly innocuous as a generic antihistamine — well, maybe don't do that."
The alcohol thing bothers me. You used to be able to scan your id at my local store but now I have to stand there and wait. Usually I just go for a regular register when I am getting booze.

Also sometimes there is a gross troon at the self-checkouts and I really try to avoid him.
 
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It’s simple. You have not many items? Self-checkout. You have a lot of items? Go checkout with a cashier and bagger. I see too many dumbfucks wasting everyone’s time either buying 4 items and placing them on the slow moving conveyor so a cashier can scan them, or scanning over 100 items by themselves.
 
> having a system that detects items in the basket
> needing an employee to delete an element in the cart
> not having one pit boss with the ability to override age limits by just looking at you

Maybe your system/machines are shit? I have none if these issues where I am at.

There is also always security there, so good luck with stealing, it's much more efficient to have this bottleneck when it comes to identifying suspect behavior than it is overlooking dozens of separate point of sales.
 
I don't get a reduction in my bill for using the self-checkout which benefits the company through lowered wages. So fuck self check outs. I'll stand in a queue to make wagey bag my shit out of spite.

A lot of people at work openly admit to stealing from self-checkouts. Usually stuff worth <£5 but they do it once, sometimes twice a day, and it's a trend cottoning on. They say if they get caught they'll feign ignorance.
 
We need CASH ONLY checkouts
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Whatever happened to the idea of RFID'ing everything in the store so you could just pick up and a leave and be auto charged. They were pushing that pretty hard 5-10 years ago, I think Amazon wanted entire stores based around it. That sure disappeared.
 
As a denizen of the 2nd shift, I really couldn't get by without self-checkout. The last thing I want to do after getting out at work at 9 in the evening is have to make small talk with the staff when I'm trying to buy some stupid item I forget I needed before I went into work.
 
There's zero ergonomic design with the self check outs. You must bend to get your stuff outta the cart and then bend again to scan it and then bend again to place it on the even lower bagging area with the hidden scale. It's punishing if your back ain't great. Ya can't park your own bag there to simply bag as you go, the scale detects the extra weight and assumes you're stealing. So the whole process stops until the one sullen employee minding six busy scanning stations is available to reset it with their password and a few codes.

After you're been successfully taught not to bag as you scan, you have to stack and balance your pile of odd shaped groceries on a 18 x 30 surface and then after paying you bend yet again to bag it all up. Seeing my ugly mug on a screen the whole time is irritating and disturbing. Fuck you Big Brother. And of course everyone who uses the self check out must be deaf based on the volume level of the scanner beeps and the AI voice that's been programmed to announce all your purchases: "BEEP! HEMORRHOID CREAM! $5.00! Place your... HEMORRHOID CREAM... in the bagging area!".

Touching screens and buttons that haven't been cleaned since who knows when skeeves me out too. I used a stylus during Covid, but that was just an additional PITA that I've let slide since.

It's self destructive idiocy, really. You're frustrating and pissing off your customers and taking huge losses. Not just with outright theft- from what I can tell there's no AI to verify produce on the scale so those $10 a pound organic grapes can be coded and weighed as 60 cents a pound bananas.

Before my store ripped out a bunch of regular check out aisles to replace them with the self check outs they employed a small army of high school kids, retirees, and retards of all ages to scan and bag. I expect some of them just simply latched onto the gov teat instead.
 
I generally like self checkouts. The main problem with it is the scales are retarded. One of the stores I shop in, they have a turn table with bags on it, and a shelf for more stuff. Both have a built in scale. If you fill up the turn table and move a bag to the shelf, it will assume you are stealing and scold you to put the stuff in the bagging area. Do this more than once, and and you have to flag down the attendant to bail you out. On other occasions, communication between the scale and the register will be too slow and it will think there is too much stuff on the scale and scold you for not scanning for a few seconds until the system updates and it realizes you have in fact scanned the item. Again, if it happens too often, you need to flag down the attendant to bail you out. It seems to go in cycles too, like it will do this every couple months for a few days and then work fine. I suspect what is happening is the store suffers too much shrink and gets badgered by upper management to up the sensitivity of the scales. That turns into a clusterfuck of false positives that back up the lines, and then they turn the sensitivity down again. Like many problems in America, the root of the problem really does boil down to niggers stealing shit.

Annoying as this is, I do tend to prefer it to having to play 20 questions with the clerk on checkout. No, I don't want a membership. No, I don't want to sign up for your credit card. No, I don't want to donate for the retarded charity du jour that will probably waste 90% of anything I give it on "administrative costs". I want to buy my stuff and gtfo.
 
See I don’t mind the self checkout if they aren’t backed up. However I have an issue with the concept here in the land of rampant importing of slave labor. Using self checkout does reduce the staffing needs which is what they are supposedly bringing in these third world low iq people for. So reduction in retail staff due to self checkouts has not translated into a reduction in third world slave wagies.
Then you have the tons of old fucks who can barely see let alone understand a touch screen who back up the SC.
 
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