Our Political Leanings

[Night Terror]

Man American politics are boring as hell.

FTFY

There really is only one major question plaguing British politics right now: why did we elect that wanker Cameron?

 

[WiseOldBadger]

Romney had two major things going against him: He was a flip-flopper, and he is Mormon. There is still a big prejudice against Mormons, especially in Evangelical circles.

When you get right down to brass tacks, however, there really isn't much difference between Romney or Obama. Both of them are big government stooges and empty suits.

Big prejudice against Mormons in evangelical circles eh? Tell me this, is there still big prejudice against Catholics in evangelical circles?

I know there was in Kennedy's day, but has that subsided quite a bit?

I just ask because I support Chris Christie for president in 2016. Even though Im a Brit and can't vote in US elections, I think Christie is conservative enough for me, yet not rigidly ideological enough to stop shit from getting done. He seems the only big politican out there saying that a half of a loaf is better than none, and the better choice.

I'd also love to see him negotiate head to head with the Iranian dictator. I guarantee he would make an impression on him!

 

[Sexual Stallone]

Being from a country that is on it's way to becoming Cuba 2.0, I have grown up to be almost allergic to anything far-left, with a big, overbearing state. I guess I'm a Libertarian?

 

[Linako 2.0]

I never had a problem with people's beliefs unless they involve the desire of removing of people with other beliefs.
Extremist leftists and righties are funnier since they think that their belief is the ultimate truth and that antone who disagrees is part of the Patriarchy, Evil fat cat capitalists or the Jewish conspiracy.
this is why I see Burning love's rant about how "libertarians should be all shot" from the last month in minichat seemed like a strawman lefty.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Arguing politics is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at the game the pigeon is always going to knock over the pieces, shit on the game board and then strut around like it won.

I can attest to that, on IGN we have a political troll who behaves exactly in that manner. Kind of reminds me of how Chris lives his life, in a way.

No matter how much bad shit happens, he just doesn't get it.

 

[Sexual Stallone]

There is some stuff I'm full blown leftard about like gay marriage, legalizing pot and abortion but, at the same time, I believe in stuff like the free market, Israel's right to exist, individualism, the value of western civilization, etc. So I guess you could say I'm a zionist fascist capitalist pig?

 

[The Dude]

There is some stuff I'm full blown leftard about like gay marriage, legalizing pot and abortion but, at the same time, I believe in stuff like the free market, Israel's right to exist, individualism, the value of western civilization, etc. So I guess you could say I'm a zionist fascist capitalist pig?

If you're Pro-Gun Ownership then you're probably a libertarian.

 

[Sexual Stallone]

Gun onwership is one of those things I kinda come at the middle, I think people should have the right to bear arms but it should also have some sort of regulation, Japan is probably the best country in the world at handling gun-control, we should take a page from their book.

 

[CatParty]

Weeaboo

 

[Linako 2.0]

The reason japan might be easier with handling guns is due to their culture of "PRUSERVERING HONER DESU".
something many westerners won't follow since we focus more on the individual self and standing out to succeed.
Culture defines the politics.

 

[Burning Love]

this is why I see Burning love's rant about how "libertarians should be all shot" from the last month in minichat seemed like a strawman lefty.

The list is a lot longer than that. Libertarians are just number one on the list. They get special privileges though, as the first set of victims: they will live long enough in the labor camps to regret ever identifying as such publicly. So there's that. They always did enjoy free things. Forced labor seems like the ultimate "free" market... who can spare the expense of all that food anyway?

 

[exball]

No one should be killed for their political beliefs.

 

[Burning Love]

Most people should be killed for their political beliefs.

I fixed your thing.

 

[c-no]

No one should be killed for their political beliefs.

So does it mean I can state my political belief in that:
- Everything in politics must have ponies
- Everything in politics must complain about how overrated and/or stupid the Dark Brotherhood is
Do this mean I can state it without getting shot or stabbed?Just joking about it but yeah, no one should be killed for their political beliefs. We have a right to follow whatever political belief it is but we also must understand it can't be free from criticism and that there are con's within the system we would believe in.

 

[exball]

No one should be killed for their political beliefs.

So does it mean I can state my political belief in that:
- Everything in politics must have ponies
- Everything in politics must complain about how overrated and/or stupid the Dark Brotherhood is
Do this mean I can state it without getting shot or stabbed?Just joking about it but yeah, no one should be killed for their political beliefs. We have a right to follow whatever political belief it is but we also must understand it can't be free from criticism and that there are con's within the system we would believe in.

Yes. You'll still be fat, gay, and autistic though.

 

[Carlson]

The reason japan might be easier with handling guns is due to their culture of "PRUSERVERING HONER DESU".
something many westerners won't follow since we focus more on the individual self and standing out to succeed.
Culture defines the politics.

This. Everyone likes to bring up Japan's almost 100% banning of civilian firearm ownership as an example of why gun control works. The mistake they're making is in assuming that gun control operates in a vacuum, and is the only factor involved. I'm willing to bet that you'd see a much different reaction than you'd expect to suddenly lifting the laws and giving Japan similar firearm laws as, say, Arizona. Japan's culture is extremely strict regarding honor, conformity, and politeness. Their general crime rate is lower than all other industrialized countries not because they make it difficult for civilians to buy guns legally, but because their culture and some of their policing methods are geared toward preventing crime in the first place.

You can look at other countries with disparate gun laws compared to their crime rates. Mexico is horrifically violent, to the point where a Vice News journalist said that he was more scared in Juarez than he was in the Middle East, but they have much stricter civilian firearm laws than the majority of the United States. Switzerland has relatively high levels of firearm ownership compared to the rest of the world, but much less violent crime than the US. Australia is often touted by gun control supporters as an example of a success story, but Australian gun control was inspired by an unusual spike in crime that may have gone away on its own (essentially policy being inspired by a statistical fwibble that could not have been predicted or prevented) and absolutely nothing has proven that gun control has been what's caused the decrease in crime. Again, considering that Australia had a rather low crime rate until that random spike, I'm willing to bet that the increase in crime just went away naturally and gun control happened to conveniently be around when it did.

Gun control is not an end-all-be-all solution. While no nation should be a free-for-all of buying and selling any weapon you want to anyone, very little has actually proven that an increase in gun control actually works. Not to mention that the vast majority of gun control advocates, especially the politicians trying to make the new laws, have little or no experience with firearms and tend to write rather silly laws out of ignorance; the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban is a prime example, loaded with bannings of cosmetic attachments and being based around making a gun less scary to look at rather than less deadly. And some places in the United States continue to enforce this law, even when it had effectively zero impact on violent crime, because it makes them feel better.

I feel that gun control is too much of a reactionary response to violence: the subject always crops up after a school shooting or a mass murder or something, with panicking people demanding that "we do SOMETHING!" about this violence and "We can't sit around and do nothing!" Perhaps instead of trying to restrict everyone in the nation in what they can do and purchase and hoping that criminals get caught in the net that you set up for everyone, we should be changing our culture to make our nation less prone to violent crime and mass murder in the first place. We should be improving our study and treatment of mental health to ensure that people who are psychotic and violent enough to kill innocent people are either treated or (if unable to be treated) kept away from innocent people before they hurt anybody. And we should be working more on rehabilitating criminals to improve our horrendous recidivism rate, and keeping our prisons from becoming such hellholes of violence.

 

[Mourning Dove]

If I recall correctly my sister who lived in China long-term says that owning guns there is illegal, and additionally violent crime is virtually non-existent in China. It may just be the crazy Communist government scaring everyone into behaving, but interpret that as you will.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

No one should be killed for their political beliefs.

Unless you're Hitler, then you probably should.

Or Stalin. I'm not picky in what side of the political spectrum my mass murderers lie.

(with apologies to our own Hitler and Stalin).

 

[Linako 2.0]

No one should be killed for their political beliefs.

Unless you're Hitler, then you probably should.

Or Stalin. I'm not picky in what side of the political spectrum my mass murderers lie.

(with apologies to our own Hitler and Stalin).

Most people should be killed for their political beliefs.

I fixed your thing.

See, it's things like these that rub me the wrong way.
just because someone has an extremist ideology doesn't mean he should have his life taken away.
Now if this person with extremist beliefs is actually killing a individuals or a certain group, than we can do something about it, hopefully through diplomacy so any imminent war can be delayed.

 

[Burning Love]

See, it's things like these that rub me the wrong way.
just because someone has an extremist ideology doesn't mean he should have his life taken away.
Now if this person with extremist beliefs is actually killing a individuals or a certain group, than we can do something about it, hopefully through diplomacy so any imminent war can be delayed.

My life is art. Tactless anarchist art.