Disaster Oregon bill would decriminalize homeless encampments and propose penalties if unhoused people are harassed or ordered to leave - They're just resting.

Democrats in the Oregon House of Representatives have introduced a bill that would decriminalize homeless encampments in public places and allow homeless people to sue for $1,000 if harassed or told to leave.

The bill, HB 3501, would allow unhoused people to use public spaces “without discrimination and time limitations” regarding their housing status, the text reads.

“Many persons in Oregon have experienced homelessness as a result of economic hardship, a shortage of safe and affordable housing, the inability to obtain gainful employment and a disintegrating social safety net system,” says the bill, sponsored by Rep. Farrah Chaichi, a Democrat whose district includes Beaverton, and Rep. Khanh Pham, from southeast Portland. “Decriminalization of rest allows local governments to redirect resources from local law enforcement activities to activities that address the root causes of homelessness and poverty.”

CNN has reached out to Chaichi, the chief sponsor, but has not heard back.

“It expresses a sentiment that we are all here to protect the dignity, the welfare, the legal right of this community,” Jimmy Jones, executive director of the Mid-Willamette Valley Community Action Agency, told CNN. “We certainly don’t want to see people harassed simply because they don’t know where to go.”

Public opposition to the measure has been sizable, according to a list of submitted testimonies.

“We cannot give these people legal protection to do as they please in our public spaces, and strip our citizens of their own rights to use these same spaces,” wrote Portland resident Carlin Scott. “Portland is struggling right now to retain residents, and the increasing encroachment of homeless camps on our public lands is a big reason why we’re losing residents.”

According to the 2022 point-in-time count of homeless people conducted by Multnomah County, which includes Portland, people counted as homeless as defined by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development increased 30.2% during the pandemic. And the number of people who were unsheltered grew by 50% from 2019 to 2022.

The US Census Bureau estimates about 641,000 people live in Portland as of last July.

Jones says people are losing patience, but there is nowhere to go.

“People don’t disappear,” he said. “Moving people around just chases the issue from one place to another.”

Others who support the bill say they believe unhoused people are deserving of help just as anyone else is.

“For too long law enforcement has acted to effectively enclose public land from common use, especially use by down-on-their luck Oregonians,” said Jackson Miller, a Portland resident. “While this bill is no public housing guarantee or major zoning reform, it does seem like it will ensure certain rights of homeless individuals and as such represents an important step in the right direction.”

The bill is with the House Committee on Housing and Homelessness, with a public hearing scheduled for May 4.

The Right to Rest Act was also introduced in 2021 but didn’t make it out of the judiciary committee.

Courts have ruled that municipalities violate the Eighth Amendment when they criminally prosecute people who have no other choice but to sleep outside in public. In 2018, a federal appeals court in Portland ruled against Boise, Idaho, writing: “The panel held that, as long as there is no option of sleeping indoors, the government cannot criminalize indigent, homeless people for sleeping outdoors, on public property, on the false premise they had a choice in the matter.”

In 2022, the federal appeals court in San Francisco made a similar ruling against the town of Grants Pass, Oregon.

 
You have to understand that these "problems" are manufactured as a reason to funnel money to leftist organizations. Billions of dollars go towards homelessness, community bullshit, and illegals. Guess how much actually ends up for its stated goal? If you guessed over 1% you're probably a woke danger hair commie tranny, and there is no hope for you (you'll never be a real woman). For the rest of us, yep until this pipeline of grift and corruption are cut off the problem will only get worse, because it feeds the evil trying to take over our once great nation.

To top it off, if you oppose any of this bs you are labelled as an inhuman piece of shit who doesn't care about the plight of these people they are exploiting. It's really quite an ingenious system. I'd be impressed if my future wasn't dependent on defeating it.
 
Good, make oregon the de-facto place we can all ship out homeless people to so the rest of us don't have to deal with it. Then in a few years we can fence it all off and turn it into some zombie apocalypse like exclusion zone
 
Decriminalizing homelessness isn't going to solve the problem of why there are so many on the streets. It's just being topical, since most homeless people are usually drug addicts or have untreated mental issues rather than the average joe who got fucked over by losing their job or an economic downturn. Also, east Oregon needs to man up and join with Idaho instead of putting up with Portland and Salem's bullshit.

The situation kind of reminds me when ADF had his homelessness saga a few years back.

It's equal parts shocking and depressing how many homeless people there are in Oregon. Every time I was visiting family for the last few years, I decided to count hobos and their encampments. There's been a sharp increase over the last decade, probably because of the generous homeless programs they have there.
 
The people in power and in support of this aren't going to have to live next to a homeless camp and have to put up with ranting raving lunatics who smell like feces and smoke crack
 
You have to understand that these "problems" are manufactured as a reason to funnel money to leftist organizations. Billions of dollars go towards homelessness, community bullshit, and illegals. Guess how much actually ends up for its stated goal? If you guessed over 1% you're probably a woke danger hair commie tranny, and there is no hope for you (you'll never be a real woman). For the rest of us, yep until this pipeline of grift and corruption are cut off the problem will only get worse, because it feeds the evil trying to take over our once great nation.

To top it off, if you oppose any of this bs you are labelled as an inhuman piece of shit who doesn't care about the plight of these people they are exploiting. It's really quite an ingenious system. I'd be impressed if my future wasn't dependent on defeating it.
Paying lip service to fixing a problem is dirt cheap, but actually fixing the problem costs money they were never willing to spend. I fucking hate it.
 
Even if this passes, good luck enforcing it.

Good, make oregon the de-facto place we can all ship out homeless people to so the rest of us don't have to deal with it. Then in a few years we can fence it all off and turn it into some zombie apocalypse like exclusion zone
Ah, so you're going to ship them all here, fence them off and then nuke my faggy state. Clever.
 
Decriminalizing homelessness isn't going to solve the problem of why there are so many on the streets. It's just being topical, since most homeless people are usually drug addicts or have untreated mental issues rather than the average joe who got fucked over by losing their job or an economic downturn.

equal parts shocking and depressing how many homeless people there are in Oregon. Every time I was visiting family for the last few years, I decided to count hobos and their encampments. There's been a sharp increase over the last decade, probably because of the generous homeless programs they have there.

It completely ignores how very closely tied the homeless problem is with drug addiction. A ton of articles talk about how all these programs exist to house homeless people, but the homeless people prefer being on the streets where they aren't subjected to rules, and have easy access to drugs.

And, of course, the higher the population of drug addicts, the higher all sorts of other crimes become, since those addicts aren't working a job, and still need to pay for their drugs. None of this benefits the residents, or even the homeless, since they're basically just being left to die of ODs on the street, because that's apparently "compassionate".
 
@Secret Asshole it's not about people down on their luck at all. Visible aggressive disruptive homeless are longterm feral drug addicts who haven't participated in society in years if ever.

If your scenario actually came to pass and the state starting telling regular people "go camp," it would actually improve things, because you'd have rednecks out there kicking the junkie's asses and building highquality shanty towns.
 
It's just being topical, since most homeless people are usually drug addicts or have untreated mental issues rather than the average joe who got fucked over by losing their job or an economic downturn.
It completely ignores how very closely tied the homeless problem is with drug addiction. A ton of articles talk about how all these programs exist to house homeless people, but the homeless people prefer being on the streets where they aren't subjected to rules, and have easy access to drugs.
You are both probably technically wrong, but correct in spirit.

I am confident these lawmakers know the difference between "homeless" as a general category and street homeless or rough sleeping. Homeless in general includes people who are couch surfing or consistently staying in shelters - I don't think the majority of these people are drug addicts (yet).

The alcohol and drug addictions, and other severe mental illnesses, are for the street homeless. These are the people that don't even want to get back into society. There is not really a good solution for them that the progressive/democrats would accept. These are also the issue that maybe women will think about when voting, and fathers, and husbands (nothing like a homeless man harassing a woman walking with her young child to get people on your side!)

The government should intervene for those that are more easily "fixed", rather than keeping to throw money at people who don't even want to be back in society. Average Joe who just started living in his car may start drinking (or go back to it) and soon he will join Mike over there pissing himself while holding an empty bottle. Democrats won't care about Average Joe until he is so deep into his alcoholism that he forgets his own name, only then will they deem him oppressed enough to be helped.
 
You are both probably technically wrong, but correct in spirit.

I am confident these lawmakers know the difference between "homeless" as a general category and street homeless or rough sleeping. Homeless in general includes people who are couch surfing or consistently staying in shelters - I don't think the majority of these people are drug addicts (yet).

The alcohol and drug addictions, and other severe mental illnesses, are for the street homeless. These are the people that don't even want to get back into society. There is not really a good solution for them that the progressive/democrats would accept. These are also the issue that maybe women will think about when voting, and fathers, and husbands (nothing like a homeless man harassing a woman walking with her young child to get people on your side!)

The government should intervene for those that are more easily "fixed", rather than keeping to throw money at people who don't even want to be back in society. Average Joe who just started living in his car may start drinking (or go back to it) and soon he will join Mike over there pissing himself while holding an empty bottle. Democrats won't care about Average Joe until he is so deep into his alcoholism that he forgets his own name, only then will they deem him oppressed enough to be helped.
Honestly, instead of decriminalizing every drug and such, build lockdown treatment/rehab facilities. Let them choose between a jail sentence or a shorter rehab sentence. No parole. It is harder to help an addict who doesn't want help, but you'll probably help more via mandatory lockdown rehab than just leaving them to addiction. And at least there would be some consequences for criminal behavior, while providing some opportunity for addicts to recover.

But yes, you are right that "homeless" is a really broad category that does include people genuinely down on their luck. But those homeless can be served by housing initiatives, with some adjustments possibly. The tent cities, on the other hand, are significantly more of the addict variety though.
 
My final solution for the homeless is to jail them. Force them through drug rehab and general rehab programs. The ones who refuse or really lag behind get killed a year in. Yeah, this idea can be abused to all hell. Like all ideas. But I think we should give em a final chance to get back on their feet rather than just kill em all like @Dwight Frye suggested.
 
But yes, you are right that "homeless" is a really broad category that does include people genuinely down on their luck. But those homeless can be served by housing initiatives, with some adjustments possibly. The tent cities, on the other hand, are significantly more of the addict variety though.
The biggest problem with the services for people that seriously want it is that with bureaucracy, nothing moves fast enough. Even Section 8 is slow as shit for homeless people, and they get priority.

I don't disagree with you at all, don't get me wrong. It was an issue I noticed before COVID, and it's gotten worse now. Even job coaching services are hard-up for employees to help dysfunctional people (tards and low income) find work. I can't imagine it's any better for the public sector, where people employed by the county or city are given tremendous caseloads with very little pay relative to the amount of work they do.
 
I moved out of Oregon to get away from this bullshit. Got tired of waking up to find homeless people digging through my trash and sleeping in my yard like wild fucking geese and getting knocks on my door from cops at 4AM with dogs looking for psychos hiding in my neighborhood. Currently sitting on my new large porch with nary a homeless in sight, with neighbors who all have guns.

Sometimes I feel homesick when I remember how beautiful the PNW is but then I see stuff like this and can't help but thank god I got the fuck out of there.
 
The homeless junkie situation in this country is literally reaching critical mass.

My grandmother is in the final stages of life so I went back to the small town I grew up in to visit last week which is like 97% white with almost non existant crime and even they have bums now.

It's fucking insane.
Small towns have been ravaged by a 1-2-3 punch of meth, OxyContin, and heroin/fentanyl for about 25 years now. Most homeless in these small towns just shack up with a relative before they inevitably OD but I can easily imagine years of couch surfing and wearing out welcomes results in people getting kicked out onto the street.
 
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