Neanderthals cooked meals with pulses 70,000 years ago

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Neanderthals cooked meals with pulses 70,000 years ago​


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A view of Shanidar Cave in the Zagros Mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan is shown.

Stone Age cooks were surprisingly sophisticated, combining an array of ingredients and using different techniques to prepare and flavor their meals, analysis of some the earliest charred food remains has suggested.

Plant material found at the Shanidar Cave in northern Iraq — which is famous for its burial of a Neanderthal surrounded by flowers — and Franchthi Cave in Greece revealed prehistoric cooking by Neanderthals and early modern humans was complex, involving several steps, and that the foods used were diverse, according to a new study published in the journal Antiquity.

Wild nuts, peas, vetch, a legume which had edible seed pods, and grasses were often combined with pulses like beans or lentils, the most commonly identified ingredient, and at times, wild mustard. To make the plants more palatable, pulses, which have a naturally bitter taste, were soaked, coarsely ground or pounded with stones to remove their husk.

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(From left) Breadlike food was found in Franchthi Cave in Greece; pulse-rich food with wild peas was uncovered in Shanidar Cave in northern Iraq.

At Shanidar Cave, the researchers studied plant remains from 70,000 years ago, when the space was inhabited by Neanderthals, an extinct species of human, and 40,000 years ago, when it was home to early modern humans (Homo sapiens).

The charred food remains from Franchthi Cave dated from 12,000 years ago, when it was also occupied by hunter-gatherer Homo sapiens.

Despite the distance in time and space, similar plants and cooking techniques were identified at both sites — possibly suggesting a shared culinary tradition, said the study’s lead author Dr. Ceren Kabukcu, an archaeobotanical scientist at the University of Liverpool in the United Kingdom.

Based on the food remains researchers analyzed, Neanderthals, the heavy-browed hominins who disappeared about 40,000 years ago, and Homo sapiens appeared to use similar ingredients and techniques, she added, although wild mustard was only found at Shanidar Cave dating back to when it was occupied by Homo sapiens.

Early processed food​

A breadlike substance was found at the Greek cave, although it wasn’t clear what it was made from. The evidence that ancient humans pounded and soaked pulses at Shanidar Cave 70,000 years ago is the earliest direct evidence outside Africa of the processing of plants for food, according to Kabukcu.

Kabukcu said she was surprised to find that prehistoric people were combining plant ingredients in this way, an indication that flavor was clearly important. She had expected to find only starchy plants like roots and tubers, which on face value appear to be more nutritious and are easier to prepare.

Much research on prehistoric diets has focused on whether early humans were predominantly meat eaters, but Kabukcu said it was clear they weren’t just chomping on woolly mammoth steaks. Our ancient ancestors ate a varied diet depending on where they lived, and this likely included a wide range of plants.

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A Neanderthal hearth was unearthed at Shanidar Cave, where charred plant remains were also found.

Such creative cooking techniques were once thought to have emerged only with the shift from the hunter-gatherer lifestyle to humans’ focus on agriculture — known as the Neolithic transition — that took place between 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.

What’s more, she said, the research suggested life in the Stone Age was not just a brutal fight to survive, at least at these two sites, and that prehistoric humans selectively foraged a variety of different plants and understood their different flavor profiles.

John McNabb, a professor at the Centre for the Archaeology of Human Origins at the University of Southampton in the UK said that scientific understanding of the Neanderthal diet has changed significantly “as we move away from the idea of them just consuming huge quantities of hunted game meat.”

“More data is needed from Shanidar, but if these results are supported then Neanderthals were eating pulses and some species from the grass family that required careful preparation before consumption. Sophisticated techniques of food preparation had a much deeper history than previously thought,” McNabb, who wasn’t involved in the research, said via email.

“Even more intriguing is the possibility that they did not deliberately extract all the unpalatable toxins. Some were left in the food, as the presence of seed coatings suggests — that part of the seed where the bitterness is especially located. A Neanderthal flavor of choice.”

Prehistoric microbiomes tracked​

A separate study into prehistoric diets that also published Tuesday analyzed ancient humans’ oral microbiome — fungi, bacteria and viruses that reside in the mouth — by using ancient DNA from dental plaque.

Researchers led by Andrea Quagliariello, a postdoctoral research fellow in comparative biomedicine and food at the University of Padua in Italy, examined the oral microbiomes of 76 individuals who lived in prehistoric Italy over a period of 30,000 years, as well as microscopic food remains found in calcified plaque.

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A human jawbone was excavated from a Neolithic site in southern Italy.

Quagliariello and his team were able to identify trends in diet and cooking techniques, such as the introduction of fermentation and milk, and a shift to a greater reliance on carbohydrates associated with an agriculture-based diet.

McNabb said it was impressive that researchers had been able chart changes over such a long period of time.

“What the study also does is support the growing idea that the Neolithic was not the sudden arrival of new subsistence practices and new cultures as it was once thought to be. It appears to be a slower transition,” McNabb, who wasn’t involved in the study, said via email.
 
So was it Neandrethals, which we drove to extinction, or us?

Because the Neandrathals men were made of tasty tasty meat and their women had big titties and big asses, which led to their downfall at the hands of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Eat shit, square head.

Your rocks and trees can't save you now, faggots.
 
So was it Neandrethals, which we drove to extinction, or us?

Because the Neandrathals men were made of tasty tasty meat and their women had big titties and big asses, which led to their downfall at the hands of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Eat shit, square head.

Your rocks and trees can't save you now, faggots.
I still hold on to the idea that we simply became the same species through mating, technically I would say both groups went 'extinct' then.
 
If they were doing it then no doubt we were.
Another fail with the theory of human meat eating being a modern social invention.. And just like that thousands of vegans cried out in cope once again!
 
So was it Neandrethals, which we drove to extinction, or us?

Because the Neandrathals men were made of tasty tasty meat and their women had big titties and big asses, which led to their downfall at the hands of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Eat shit, square head.

Your rocks and trees can't save you now, faggots.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens are the superior race. Fuck the Neanderthals. Fuck the floresiens. And double fuck Homo Erectus, they’re a bunch of faggots.
 
There were many tribes that didn't know fire until the 19th century. There are uncontacted tribes that don't know fire UNTIL TODAY.
Also, all the MUH SPECIES SUPERIOR, STUPID NEANDERTHALS, should consider that all modern Humans, except sub-saharan africans have a not insignificant amount of Neanderthal DNA through interbreeding.

The only ones I have ever heard sperging about Neanderthals are some Black Nationalists sperging about Yakub's cavemen.
Leave our big-nosed grug ancestors alone, lest you be a Nigger.
 
So was it Neandrethals, which we drove to extinction, or us?

Because the Neandrathals men were made of tasty tasty meat and their women had big titties and big asses, which led to their downfall at the hands of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Eat shit, square head.

Your rocks and trees can't save you now, faggots.
I m part of the 3% that has neanderthal DNA! I will thank you to stop it with a sapien supremest talk.
 
I never heard those plants referred to as "pulses" before. I read the headline and though Neanderthals were using some kind of Flintstones Wakanda Atlantis Lost Civilization microwave oven technology.

Bummed that's not true.
 
Homo sapiens invented agriculture that led to tyranny, large scale warfare, "social media culture", wokeism, and "The New Normal"?

Meanwhile, Homo neanderthalensis invented tasty foods?

:thinking:
 
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I still hold on to the idea that we simply became the same species through mating, technically I would say both groups went 'extinct' then.
This is what the science suggests, there's overwhelming amount of evidence genetic and fossil that neanderthals co-existed with early humans and didn't "war with them". That idea mostly comes from the bias that people often have that early man was entirely warlike and cruel until he invented civilization.

In reality there's a lot of evidence that human beings showed compassion in pre-history. There's a great video discussing the evidence of it in the context of things like disabled people in pre history.
 
"meals with pulse(s" sounds like something I would tell to a vegetarian to make him run away screaming.

"YES, MOTHERFUCKER, I EAT THINGS WITH A PULSE, THAT INCLUDES YOU, SO YOU BETTER RUN!"
 
That idea mostly comes from the bias that people often have that early man was entirely warlike and cruel until he invented civilization.
Reminds me of this article I've linked to before from Discover magazine:

The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race
The advent of agriculture was a watershed moment for the human race. It may also have been our greatest blunder.
(And like I said, of course not all aspects of civilization are bad though.)

"meals with pulse(s" sounds like something I would tell to a vegetarian to make him run away screaming.
That's kind of what I thought too.
 
Kabukcu said she was surprised to find that prehistoric people were combining plant ingredients in this way, an indication that flavor was clearly important. She had expected to find only starchy plants like roots and tubers, which on face value appear to be more nutritious and are easier to prepare.

Much research on prehistoric diets has focused on whether early humans were predominantly meat eaters, but Kabukcu said it was clear they weren’t just chomping on woolly mammoth steaks. Our ancient ancestors ate a varied diet depending on where they lived, and this likely included a wide range of plants.
This bothers me - Their first sentence implies a very strong assumption, that this was done for flavor, and then the second one strongly supports a completely different conclusion - There wasn't enough of any one thing to just autistically focus on it, and you ate what you could find. I doubt they started processing foods just because of flavor or cooking styles - A lot of things are hardly worth calling edible without being worked over, and once you figure that out with one food, its not hard to start trying it with other things people couldn't eat before.

"meals with pulse(s" sounds like something I would tell to a vegetarian to make him run away screaming.
At first glance, and knowing this board, I was wondering if they meant proof that they captured animals to cook them alive, whole.
 
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This is what the science suggests, there's overwhelming amount of evidence genetic and fossil that neanderthals co-existed with early humans and didn't "war with them". That idea mostly comes from the bias that people often have that early man was entirely warlike and cruel until he invented civilization.

In reality there's a lot of evidence that human beings showed compassion in pre-history. There's a great video discussing the evidence of it in the context of things like disabled people in pre history.
While I do agree there's plenty of evidence, Trey has made himself known as a particularly biased form of history autist and I don't think he's particularly trustworthy in general. Not a dig at you, I found this out the hard way with several parts of this video of his.
Here's a clip from a likely more decent source about the topic of the article.
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Not only already agreeing that it happened but showing it could have been even earlier in human history.
 
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