Disaster Climate change is fueling extremism, raising tempers along with temperatures - LA Times reporters leave the bughive, write about how I am confused when we are not in bughive

GREENVILLE, Calif. —
It’s hard to explain just how much some people in rural California dislike and distrust the rest of us, especially Gov. Gavin Newsom.
It’s not something hidden under the surface, and it’s not just the radical fringe. Drive up past Sacramento, and there’s a real sense among many that urban California has betrayed them, ravaged their resources and simply doesn’t respect or value their way of life.

It can even be found in the politically mixed town of Greenville, which burned to the ground during last year’s Dixie fire.

The Stars and Stripes flew at its recent Gold Diggers Day celebration, held in a decimated downtown ringed by the skeletons of fire-blackened trees. But just below it was a State of Jefferson flag, the symbol of the anti-government separatist movement with racist undertones that would like to see everything north of Sacramento become its own territory, free of “King Newsom,” as some around here call him. Not far away, a Confederate flag caught the evening breeze.

Ken Donnell, a musician and inventor originally from Los Angeles, lost a business and a home to the Dixie fire and is in the process of rebuilding. He’s a hippie with the heart of a dreamer. But he’s not blind to the problems that plagued his beloved little town before the flames — faults that are growing back, perhaps even faster than the homes and trees.

“There were a lot of divisions within our community pre-fire,” Donnell told us, standing by a portable bar at the festival, wearing a flamboyant red cowboy hat that set off his blue eyes and black fanny pack. “It’s the drama and beauty of life in a small community. We all know each other way too well, and so we learn to live with those things.”

There’s no denying that the extremist turn of MAGA Republicanism is flourishing throughout the state’s pastoral parts. As climate change worsens, water gets more scarce and the land becomes hotter, drier and harder to live upon, this discontent could very well metastasize into violence. That’s especially true if California uses financial leverage to discourage rebuilding fire-destroyed towns and encourages rural denizens to move to more defensible places.

Experts who track domestic unrest are raising these concerns. It’s not just the two of us. Ignoring that growing fury is just as dangerous and foolish as ignoring the rising temperatures themselves. In both cases, there’s a tipping point where it becomes impossible to turn the heat back down.

Brian Hughes, a founder of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, warns that “an awful lot of radicalization and extremist propaganda works because it finds a reasonable hook.”

It’s natural to be livid when you lose something dear, he points out. Extremists are already targeting these vulnerable communities with paranoid answers about how to save a sacrosanct way of life, Hughes said.

Donnell has heard conspiracy theories about Jewish-controlled space lasers and tales of government officials who want to burn people off their land as part of a socialist plot.

Alexander Reid Ross, an extremism expert at Portland State University, points out that, in the American West, antisemitism has long married itself to an anti-governmental cowboy ethos — a combination that has become supercharged and mainstreamed as MAGA Republicanism has mined the discontent for converts.

“They all believe that the U.S. government has been captured by Jews,” said Ross, referring to the West’s extremists, who say they have an obligation “to restore America by destroying the federal government.”

Even those without extremist goals are fed up enough to defy authorities and regulators.

Many blame their woes on liberal policies — such as bans on extensive logging or maintaining stream flows for endangered fish.
This summer, some ranchers and farmers in nearby Siskiyou County went rogue, ignoring state orders to stop taking water from rivers to irrigate their fields. They claimed they had legal rights to the flow and were mad at what they perceived as a “rules for thee, not for me” attitude from authorities, especially Newsom.

This rebellion was cheered on by Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-Richvale), a Trump Republican who represents a large chunk of Northern California. He issued a statement lambasting the “dictatorial whims of the State Water Board” and a “systemic attempt to destroy farming and ranching in order to run the people off their own land.”

He encouraged “anyone to stop ‘voluntarily complying’ with government looters.” His spokesman later clarified that the congressman was not advocating rejecting laws, just an end to negotiating and turning off the taps without a court ruling.

Wildfires have also brought out that mutinous streak, with the far right posing as alternative protectors and a substitute authority.
During a recent fire in the Pacific Northwest, militia members set up armed roadblocks, claiming they were working to prevent so-called anti-fascists from “looting” businesses and homes. Another militia turned up at a fire near Yosemite National Park, ostensibly to offer aid.

At the Bear fire near Oroville, a Times reporter ran into members of the Three Percenters — an extreme-right group whose leaders allegedly collaborated in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol — passing out hot dogs, water and their business cards.
Reid Ross expects that more and more communities in the rural West will embrace a go-it-alone attitude and gravitate toward those selling the message that “it’s us against them.”






In a not-so-distant future ravaged by climate change, many of Northern California’s rural towns wiped out by wildfires might not get rebuilt at all.

Adolf Hitler made “blood and soil” the slogan of German Nazism, romanticizing an agrarian life fueled by white Christianity under attack from outsiders.

Not so long ago, in 2017, marchers wielding Tiki torches shouted the ugly phrase in Charlottesville, Va. The mass shooter in El Paso who targeted Latinos in 2019 spouted eco-fascist propaganda, as did the Buffalo, N.Y., shooter who targeted Black people in a supermarket this year.

Eco-fascism is on the rise in the United States — seizing upon the misery of rural communities and harnessing their pain to further a dark narrative.

At the same time, climate change is triggering waves of global migration, adding to religious and racial intolerance. Our new eco-fascists hate dark-skinned immigrants, especially the imaginary hordes seeking to overrun the country with illegal Democratic Party votes.

A White House report on climate migration said that extreme weather displaced more than 21 million people between 2008 and 2016. Just this summer, floods displaced 33 million Pakistanis, even as China sees unimaginable drought and Iraqis flee their parched farmlands.

The United States and California are not immune to that upheaval, though we seldom think of climate refugees within our borders. But floods, fires and hurricanes cause tens of thousands of temporary evacuations every year, displacing people from homes, jobs and schools and making them more susceptible to — or victims of — extremist propaganda.



Despite resentment toward Newsom, Democrats and government in general, all those fire victims rightfully feel entitled to our help, and they deserve it. They’re Californians in trouble. But we need to rethink what that “help” looks like.

Any hint that the state may change the ground rules — refusing to pay to rebuild burned towns or encouraging people to move out of dangerous areas — will surely be met with outrage, though. Keep your money and keep your rules is a popular sentiment in rural California, even as local politicians seek emergency declarations from Newsom and President Biden to ensure that government funding will flow to their communities.

It’s that mix of hypocrisy and rage that leaves politicians including Newsom hesitant to push too hard on the unpopular truths of climate change. This is, after all, a place where some believe human-caused global warming is another lie created to steal what is rightfully theirs.

But the difficult truth is some grievances aren’t conspiracies, or extremism. Though many will deny it, California politicians have too often given short shrift to poor places that are largely agrarian — favoring the needs of more diverse, urban places where votes and money reside.

That makes even Donnell feel that the future of Greenville may be a “bitter pill to swallow.”

Towns like his will largely need to fend for themselves as environmental disasters reach “biblical scales,” he says. He envisions self-contained communities that he calls “arks,” bobbing in a sea of dystopian catastrophe, abandoned by government.

But the answer to a brutally warming planet can’t be merciless anarchy — a “Mad Max” world of takers and losers.

As climate change forces hard choices, we must decide how to treat neighbors who don’t particularly like us — and whose views we may not particularly like — but who until now have been easy to ignore because they are largely powerless to stop our majority rule.
The big question, says Donnell, is “are we going to work together and cooperate, or are we going to fight over these dwindling resources?”

Extremists have an answer.

What will ours be?

 
But the difficult truth is some grievances aren’t conspiracies, or extremism. Though many will deny it, California politicians have too often given short shrift to poor places that are largely agrarian — favoring the needs of more diverse, urban places where votes and money reside.
They *almost* get it. But as always, they confirm their biases by saying the answer is always "give us all the power and surrender, mayo ghouls!"
 
They *almost* get it. But as always, they confirm their biases by saying the answer is always "give us all the power and surrender, mayo ghouls!"
God, they have such a giant hard-on for themselves and their bughives that they can't help but stop and pontificate on all their amazing qualities even when they're feigning modesty.
 
I find it hilarious how in spite of their alarmism and whining the California fire season this year has been pretty light on fires so far, as if the areas rich with combustible material have already been burnt through over the past few years, completing that forest cycle for a few decades.

Also these journalists better be careful they don't go missing in rural California after pissing off the wrong person. There's a lot of places you can hide corpses in the forest.
 
I find it hilarious how in spite of their alarmism and whining the California fire season this year has been pretty light on fires so far, as if the areas rich with combustible material have already been burnt through over the past few years, completing that forest cycle for a few decades.

Also these journalists better be careful they don't go missing in rural California after pissing off the wrong person. There's a lot of places you can hide corpses in the forest.
I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure they changed their retarded laws finally do they are actually doing controlled burns so the brush doesn’t get built up and start these massive fires super easily they should have been doing this the whole time but woke
 
You can’t claim that people against your radical climate change policies are extremists while in the same blog post use the term “MAGA Republicans” in the first few paragraphs of your post.
 
>Use predictive models that cannot predict next week, to predict fifty years in the future.
>Keep changing the model because the predictions never come true.
>Use it to justify massive wealth transfer, the destruction of the middle class and importing infinity sub 80 IQ shitskinned retards to keep the middle class destroyed.
>"Why does no one trust the climate science?"


Because it's not real science, it's about two steps removed from fucking astrology.
 
"Every policy that rural people benefit from is fascism. A libshit city slicker journos guide to politics."
 
I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure they changed their retarded laws finally do they are actually doing controlled burns so the brush doesn’t get built up and start these massive fires super easily they should have been doing this the whole time but woke
For centuries, many of California’s Indigenous communities considered it essential for forest health and employed it to great success, along with similar burning practices applied for cultural goals and objectives.
lmao

I love how attributing it to the very diverse, Green, and LGBTQ-friendly ancient forest elves immediately gives it cachet among Califaggots, as if it couldn't be justified on its own merits.
 
The LA Times has had a whole series of articles about why Greenville should fuck off and die in the past few days and this one is the absolute worst.

1. Greenville is located along a major highway on a large flat between Quincy and Chester, which are 50 miles apart. According to the laws of geography, you need a small town there. Gas, eats, motel.

2. The area is stuffed with Native Americans. There's a big rez right out of town. People have lived there since time immemorial because it's a nice area with a lot of natural resources.

3. The major non-tourist industries there are cattle ranching, logging, and infrastructure. These are things that benefit everyone, including people in LA. (Fun fact: LA owns the water rights to that whole drainage, which is nowhere near LA.)

Leaving this stuff out creates a narrative in the fucking LA Times where a bunch of white people randomly picked a spot on the map and decided to live there for (probably racist) reasons and because of their bad politics they deserved to have their town burn down (for the second time since 1881!) so nobody else owes them shit.

For all the left's bloviating about dehumanizing rhetoric on the part of the right, this shit to me seems like one step removed from the ChiCom "We will move these wrongheaded people who are currently useless parasites to another place where they can be productive in the service of the state."

And they wonder why people up there hate them!
 
Every single sentence of this article is dripping with contempt for anyone who isn't a liberal bugman, it's clearly meant for true believers who already agree with the author's worldview. Even knowing that, I can't believe the author just straight up gives the game away at the end with this line:

As climate change forces hard choices, we must decide how to treat neighbors who don’t particularly like us — and whose views we may not particularly like — but who until now have been easy to ignore because they are largely powerless to stop our majority rule.

They want nothing more than for the people who enable their way of life to have no voice and no option other than submitting to their rule.
 
Climate change.

Fuck. You. The climate always changes and has always changed. Climate change is not the problem, genius, you are the problem. They hate you. They hate the policies which have failed by the way that your moronic cult jams down their throat. They hate paying for your stupidity. And quite honestly the restraint the people you shit on show is superhuman but by all means keep pushing them.
 
As climate change forces hard choices, we must decide how to treat neighbors who don’t particularly like us — and whose views we may not particularly like — but who until now have been easy to ignore because they are largely powerless to stop our majority rule.
The big question, says Donnell, is “are we going to work together and cooperate, or are we going to fight over these dwindling resources?”
"We are preemptively justifying the use of violence against Political rivals by arguing they'd do the same in the imaginary dystopian future we've been selling you the last two decades. Of course by the use of neighbors we don't mean actually threatening minorities who routinely assault us".
 
Brian Hughes, a founder of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, warns that “an awful lot of radicalization and extremist propaganda works because it finds a reasonable hook.”

"these people have a legitimate grievance, but let's just call them racist."
 
No one who's ever worked a day in their life gives a flying fuck about "climate change". It's a luxury issue, mostly about signalling your loyalty to the club. The Gucci handbag of political issues.
 
Climate change has jack shit to do with never clearing dead shit and creating layers of flammable shit so thick that when fire does break out, it's unstoppable.

That'd be the government preventing responsible forestry.

The only ounce of truth in the article is split between the fact that everywhere outside the bughives Californians are based beyond recognition but don't have a vote really, and the fact that many of these rural areas people live in are "less defensible" from a fire perspective.

Ignoring that it'd be a lot easier to defend those areas if people were allowed to manage the damn forests so they don't fucking turn into hell every summer.
 
The LA Times has had a whole series of articles about why Greenville should fuck off and die in the past few days and this one is the absolute worst.

1. Greenville is located along a major highway on a large flat between Quincy and Chester, which are 50 miles apart. According to the laws of geography, you need a small town there. Gas, eats, motel.

2. The area is stuffed with Native Americans. There's a big rez right out of town. People have lived there since time immemorial because it's a nice area with a lot of natural resources.

3. The major non-tourist industries there are cattle ranching, logging, and infrastructure. These are things that benefit everyone, including people in LA. (Fun fact: LA owns the water rights to that whole drainage, which is nowhere near LA.)

Leaving this stuff out creates a narrative in the fucking LA Times where a bunch of white people randomly picked a spot on the map and decided to live there for (probably racist) reasons and because of their bad politics they deserved to have their town burn down (for the second time since 1881!) so nobody else owes them shit.

For all the left's bloviating about dehumanizing rhetoric on the part of the right, this shit to me seems like one step removed from the ChiCom "We will move these wrongheaded people who are currently useless parasites to another place where they can be productive in the service of the state."

And they wonder why people up there hate them!
Yeah, this article really drives home the concept that democracy only works until the majority realizes that they can just vote to appropriate the minority's stuff for themselves. Some rural areas of California no longer have running water because LA has voted that they own it to keep their lawns green.

Drilling your own well will be the new "poaching the King's deer" for Jackson. I fully support Jackson's independence. They have suffered under the tyranny of LA long enough.
 
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