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You say "abandon science" as if there isn't scientific stuff behind Trans stuff. You could always idk, do more research.

I don't agree with pushing this stuff on kids, I feel like children shouldn't really know the intense stuff about it, and it should be up to parents to teach their kids, or when the kids get old enough, they can search it on their own. But you guys are very nickpicky when it comes to the Trans people you choose the focus on. Not all Trans people or pushy, most really do just try to live their life, and maybe share experiences or other ways to feel comfortable with themselves.

When there's a group of people who are fighting for people to see them as equal, there's always going to be people who try to take advantage, like what you said with sports. But that will also go with concerns of Trans woman going into woman bathroom, and vice versa. There's going to be people who want to get those extra minority points, ya know. It happens with every minority because there are very shitty people out there, but we shouldn't count those people as part of whatever group they're trying to be apart of because they simply aren't part of that group.

I know this isn't in the order of your post, but about the whole "No life thing" it's hard to stay quiet when people are constantly shitting on you for existing. My last post did have a mean tone to it, and I'm sorry. I'll try to be more civil in the future. : )

I think the mocking is a result of people being frustrated at the considerable changes to how we should see ourselves, how we should refer to others, in a way that feels unnatural and absurd. For women though, it is upsetting for males to assume our identities, or that they know what it is like to grow up marginalized as a female.
It is also about safety.

And the difficult thing is that while fighting for others' rights is a good principle in general obv, I don't really understand what rights trans people are being denied. There are just massive policy questions here that haven't been answered. Remember that risk assessment and safeguarding is about not allowing conditions that could let the tiny group of bad people from a given group in. For example, every single person who has to regularly come into contact with kids needs to legally have a background check. It does not mean that there is a stereotype around those who work with children. I wouldn't be offended by it, or ask barriers to be taken down for all, because it offends and invalidates me. It's about stopping the tiny minority of people who wish to do harm.

A major problem with de facto letting trans women use female spaces, is that trans women by crime stats commit violence at the same rate as cis men. Trans women have the skeletal structure, height, and male puberty like cis men and are physically intimidating to women. Women only toilets in the UK were actually lobbied for by the feminist movement, because females are much safer around each other than spaces where males are allowed. Default patriarchy was just fine with women being intimidated out of peeing.

It's like, the argument for letting trans women use female spaces is so that they may avoid male violence. Isn't this a contradiction?
Trans women in prison have opted to be transferred to female estates, because they are much safer from male violence. Trans men unequivocally do not do this because they would be considerably less safe than in the female prison.
Sex matters. There is one group who are apt to hold social, political and economic advantage from birth, raised to be confident in their abilities. This group commits 80%+ of all violent crime, 99% of sexual assaults (UK 2021 figures). Crimes committed against them are apt to be from other males.
There is another group who are up to half a foot shorter, historically disenfranchised, and overwhelming responsible for the care of vulnerable children, and who carry babies. This group makes up less than 5% of the UK prison population and 3 women a week die at the hands of their own male partners or male family members.
Females know that they can be killed by the bare hands of a man determined enough. Female only spaces give us a break from that. They let us speak about our unique struggles.

In the UK, the feminist movement pushed for female only bathrooms for our safety. And set up the first domestic violence shelters, against considerable pushback. Getting rid of sex segregated spaces for mixed spaces takes us back to the 1900s, before women had a right to take a job without her husband approving, or earn above the 'woman wage'. There is no female independence without single sex spaces to protect us from violence.
It is deeply anti feminist to be trans rights, and every woman feels that deep hurt.

Which rights do trans people lack- they have the same rights as gay people, BIPOC, anyone in society.

In sum!! I just don't understand:
-what are trans rights exactly (it's never defined clearly?)
-why it's so anti feminist

I wish trans people well, it's a very confusing movement to those outside of it basically.
 
Haven't seen this song posted anywhere on the farms yet. Its called "Y Chromosome" by "The XY People". mrmenno is gay as fuck but his song is pretty based.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xDmaPIKrC-A


Yeah I saw it announced on Instagram. I think he even called himself a terf. Didn't think it was going to be this genius though.

New betting pool: how long before it's taken down? I guess a day.
 
Yeah I saw it announced on Instagram. I think he even called himself a terf. Didn't think it was going to be this genius though.

New betting pool: how long before it's taken down? I guess a day.
Maybe not. He's got a good history of antitroondom, but he hasn't been cancelled yet.
 
i think reddit tries to piss me off on purpose at this point
 

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Most of the people here look at the screaming banshees as what the community is as a whole, and that thought process is very flawed.
Do you want to go over to Internationale Clique and yell at them for being racist using Google Translate next? Or perhaps mosy on over to Deathfats and have a go at them for body shaming? Maybe you can go in the TERF thread and criticise them for being sexist?

You know what this site was when you registered. If a specific -ism or -obia grinds your gears, don't read the associated thread or forum.
 

Pride: Brave trans xueen attacked by the youths of Sweden while security guards do nothing

On Sunday, a woman in her 55s campaigned in Sergels torg. From a podium, she spoke into a megaphone in front of a large crowd, and several security guards were also present.

A video clip now circulating on social media shows young people in the crowd suddenly attacking the woman and several people throwing objects. One boy comes running from behind and hits the woman on the head with an object. A man then throws water at the woman and another young man rushes up to the podium and punches the woman in the face. Only then do the security guards intervene and move the woman aside.
  • The woman has exercised her right to free speech, the young people were there for another reason," Daniel Wikdahl, the police spokesperson, told the Bulletin.
"No riot participants"

Daniel Wikdahl further tells Bulletin that the youths who were at the scene and carried out the assault were not participants in the riot. He says that several young people have gathered in Sergels torg recently and that it has become a kind of meeting place. According to Wikdahl, a number of people were removed from the scene afterwards.
  • We took up a number of criminal reports after this incident. There are two cases of assault, vandalism, unlawful threats, grand theft and violent disorder.
The woman did not need to seek medical attention after the assault. The police classify the incident as a hate crime.
  • One person was detained at the time. I don't think anyone is still in custody as these are teenagers and young people in their late teens.
Bulletin is looking for the security company Avarn security.
https://bulletin.nu/pride-transperson-attackerades-infor-passiva-ordningsvakter

 
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You say "abandon science" as if there isn't scientific stuff behind Trans stuff. You could always idk, do more research.

I don't agree with pushing this stuff on kids, I feel like children shouldn't really know the intense stuff about it, and it should be up to parents to teach their kids, or when the kids get old enough, they can search it on their own. But you guys are very nickpicky when it comes to the Trans people you choose the focus on. Not all Trans people or pushy, most really do just try to live their life, and maybe share experiences or other ways to feel comfortable with themselves.
They sound really boring. Why tf would we have a thread on them?
When there's a group of people who are fighting for people to see them as equal,
What the fuck you on about mate?

“See them as equal”? Are troons being forced to work in coal mines or something? Where is this equality fight? I thought we were talking about troons, the most coddled group ever?!
there's always going to be people who try to take advantage, like what you said with sports. But that will also go with concerns of Trans woman going into woman bathroom, and vice versa. There's going to be people who want to get those extra minority points, ya know. It happens with every minority because there are very shitty people out there, but we shouldn't count those people as part of whatever group they're trying to be apart of because they simply aren't part of that group.
Here’s the thing… We got some loony feminists here. Every time we argue and they start cackling and call me an incel, you know what I do? I chuckle and shrug because it’s such a reach and it doesn’t describe me at all.

Now my question to you is this: If you’re really just “trying to live your life”
and the troons we laugh at are absolutely NOTHING like you… Why do you care?
I know this isn't in the order of your post, but about the whole "No life thing" it's hard to stay quiet when people are constantly shitting on you for existing. My last post did have a mean tone to it, and I'm sorry. I'll try to be more civil in the future. : )
 
Haven't seen this song posted anywhere on the farms yet. Its called "Y Chromosome" by "The XY People". mrmenno is gay as fuck but his song is pretty based.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xDmaPIKrC-A
Damn, not only is he based as fuck, he is also kinda cute.
Can't wait for this vid to attract the attention of the Troonstapo, the screeching it will cause will be the stuff of legends.
 
Also, Frank is probably the only man I've ever seen look good in a corset.
Also Tim Curry deliberately got fat to make himself "plain" and put people off, once the Rocky Horror fan base got weird and kept thirsting after him. This lot get fat and think they're sexy bimbos that everyone lusts after.
 
You say "abandon science" as if there isn't scientific stuff behind Trans stuff. You could always idk, do more research.
Show me where humans can change sex. Show me any other gamete than a sperm or an egg. There are no speggs, there is no spectrum, there are two mating types in humans. People can be of the class that potentially make sperm or the class that potentially makes eggs. Nobody has EVER been found to make both. Nobody can go from one to the other. Everyone who doesn’t make sperm or eggs is too young, too old or has an injury or medical condition.
There is absolutely, categorically and completely not the tiniest whiff of evidence for a men turning into women. None. Zero. Zilch. Zip.
I’m glad your mates are normal. The farms has interest in the normal, only the amusingly bonkers.
 

Pride: Brave trans xueen attacked by the youths of Sweden while security guards do nothing

On Sunday, a woman in her 55s campaigned in Sergels torg. From a podium, she spoke into a megaphone in front of a large crowd, and several security guards were also present.

A video clip now circulating on social media shows young people in the crowd suddenly attacking the woman and several people throwing objects. One boy comes running from behind and hits the woman on the head with an object. A man then throws water at the woman and another young man rushes up to the podium and punches the woman in the face. Only then do the security guards intervene and move the woman aside.
  • The woman has exercised her right to free speech, the young people were there for another reason," Daniel Wikdahl, the police spokesperson, told the Bulletin.
"No riot participants"

Daniel Wikdahl further tells Bulletin that the youths who were at the scene and carried out the assault were not participants in the riot. He says that several young people have gathered in Sergels torg recently and that it has become a kind of meeting place. According to Wikdahl, a number of people were removed from the scene afterwards.
  • We took up a number of criminal reports after this incident. There are two cases of assault, vandalism, unlawful threats, grand theft and violent disorder.
The woman did not need to seek medical attention after the assault. The police classify the incident as a hate crime.
  • One person was detained at the time. I don't think anyone is still in custody as these are teenagers and young people in their late teens.
Bulletin is looking for the security company Avarn security.
https://bulletin.nu/pride-transperson-attackerades-infor-passiva-ordningsvakter

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Was this person a nonce? I understands troons are creepy but escalating to physical violence isn't cool otherwise.

Men wanting to be in women's bathrooms is like a democrat trying to join a republican club. Some things are exclusive for a reason.
 
Show me where humans can change sex. Show me any other gamete than a sperm or an egg. There are no speggs, there is no spectrum, there are two mating types in humans. People can be of the class that potentially make sperm or the class that potentially makes eggs. Nobody has EVER been found to make both. Nobody can go from one to the other. Everyone who doesn’t make sperm or eggs is too young, too old or has an injury or medical condition.
There is absolutely, categorically and completely not the tiniest whiff of evidence for a men turning into women. None. Zero. Zilch. Zip.
I’m glad your mates are normal. The farms has interest in the normal, only the amusingly bonkers.
It's not a sex thing, it's a gender thing. Gender and sex are different from each other. You can't change your sex, but you can change you gender, which is why it's called Trans Gender, and not Trans sex. You could get surgery but that surgery is called Gender Reassignment surgery and not Sex Reassignment, because you're not changing your sex, you're changing your Gender.

Now to the difference between Gender and Sex. For example, I identify as Nonbinary, while my sex is Female. I can't change my sex, but I can change my gender. They're linked but not the same. Madison Bentley defined gender as the "socialized observed of sex." Gender is how you present yourself.

Now you probably have heard the whole "gender dysphoria" rant many times, so I'm going to keep this short. The whole gender being what you present as mixes in with this. Gender Dysphoria is a mental issue many Trans people deal with, and it's when you feel distress because you're not presenting yourself as the gender you feel that you are. This is what causes people to go from male to female, female to male, female to nonbinary, ect.

I tried to keep this all together but I tend to rant alot. There as been scientific research on this stuff, and you could research it on your own. I'm not hear to teach you, just to share my opinion : ).
 
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