Crime Fox News panel explodes as a live Fact Check on Red State crime slips out


Yes, this sometimes happens — sometimes somebody actually reveals the truth on Fox News.
Fox News hosts get hilariously fact-checked during the middle of their segments. John Iadarola, River Butcher, Jayar Jackson and Brett Erlich break it down on The Damage Report.
Fox News Discussion Turns Tense and Personal After Guest Points Out Crime is Actually Higher in Red States -
"Fox News panel show Outnumbered had a liberal guest, Jenna Arnold, join the program Thursday and she diverted the show into a very tense, personal discussion about crime levels in the U.S. after she noted that “crime is higher in red and Republican states more than it is in liberal cities.”The comment created a quick backlash from the other four panelists as Arnold took aim at a common theme on Fox News — rising crime in “blue” states and cities. Arnold later cited her sourcing, the public policy think tank Third Way, which published a report in March 2022 that found that in 2020 the “per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.”"

Constantly you hear the refrain on Fox News that “crime is rampant in Democrat-Run cities” where the prime example given is the murder rate in Chicago. Not much else is usually cited, not much else is needed — we all know that Democrats (Heart) Crime don't we?
They just don't have the toughness and the stomach to punish evildoers. Or would-be mothers. Or Teachers. Or Librarians. So these criminals just run wild in Democrat Cities, don't cha know that?
Yeah, well when you actually look at the murder rate on a state-by-state basis — it's not really like that.
Here are the 10 states with the highest murder rate:
  1. Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
  2. Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
  3. Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
  4. Maryland (9 per 100k)
  5. Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
  6. Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
  7. Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
  8. Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
  9. Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
  10. South Carolina (7.8 per 100k)
Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the U.S. of 14.4 murders per 100,000 residents. Murders were more than twice as common in Louisiana as they were nationwide. Murders are disproportionately concentrated in urban areas, especially New Orleans. New Orleans has a murder rate of about 37 per 100,000 residents, one of the highest of any U.S. city, followed by Baton Rouge with a murder rate of 35.1.
Alabama has the second-highest murder rate of 12.9 murders per 100,000 residents. This is also more than twice the rate nationwide. In Alabama, Birmingham has the most gun violence and, therefore, the highest murder rate of 37.1. Fairfield, Anniston, Pritchard, and Troy are other cities with the highest murder rates in Alabama.
Mississippi has the third-highest murder rate in the United States. Mississippi’s murder rate is 12.7 murders per 100,000 residents. According to the latest FBI data, Jackson had the most murders in 2018 of 78, which is a murder rate of 47 murders per 100,000 residents. Brookhaven has the highest murder rate in the state of 57.7 murders per 100,000 people.
Missouri has the fourth-highest murder rate of 11.3 murders per 100,000 residents. Murders in Missouri are disproportionately concentrated in metropolitan areas – about 90% of murders committed in 2017 in Missouri were committed in metropolitan areas. St. Louis and KansasCity are two of the most dangerous cities in the United States. In 2017, St. Louis had 205 murders and Kansas City had 150.
Alaska has the fifth-highest murder rate in the U.S. with a rate of 10.6 murders per 100,000 residents. Alaska has the highest violent crime rate of any state of 829 incidents per 100,000 residents. The most dangerous city in Alaska is Anchorage, where the violent crime rate is 1,203 per 100,000 residents and 27 people were murdered in 2017.
Now it is fair to say that the murder rate is higher in cities - where the population is also highly dense — so we see larger per capita rates in New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Birmingham, Jackson, St. Louis, Kansas City and Anchorage where some of those cities have Democratic Mayors, except for Anchorage, the rub of this is really that cities are where Democrats live. Most cities are filled with Democrats and most rural areas — without a city — are filled with Republicans.
In cities, you have a high concentration of population, but you can also have a higher concentration of poverty which combined can generate envy and jealousy that intern leads to violence. This is exactly why people on South Central go on a violent raid against Rodeo Drive every year. Or maybe not. Then again, there can be many other reasons for this violence.
The murder rate per city tends to display this:
The twenty cities in the United States with the highest murder rates (murders per 100,000 people) are:
  1. St. Louis, MO (69.4)
  2. Baltimore, MD (51.1)
  3. New Orleans, LA (40.6)
  4. Detroit, MI (39.7)
  5. Cleveland, OH (33.7)
  6. Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
  7. Kansas City, MO (31.2)
  8. Memphis, TN (27.1)
  9. Newark, NJ (25.6)
  10. Chicago, IL (24)
  11. Cincinnati, OH (23.8)
  12. Philadelphia, PA (20.2)
  13. Milwaukee, WI (20.0)
  14. Tulsa, OK (18.6)
  15. Pittsburgh, PA (18.4)
  16. Indianapolis, IN (17.7)
  17. Louisville, KY (17.5)
  18. Oakland, CA (17.1)
  19. Washington D.C. (17.0)
  20. Atlanta, GA (16.7)
St. Louis, Missouri has the highest murder rate of any US city of 69.4 murders per 100,000 people. In 2017, 205 people were murdered in St. Louis. The high likelihood of violence is attributed to the parts of the city, such as East St. Louis, that experience conditions that increase this likelihood such as unsafe housing, a failing economy, and poor school systems.
The Las Vegas murder rate is 31.4, which includes the 58 people who were tragically killed in the 2017 mass shooting at a country music festival.
Although murder rates in US cities are extremely high compared to other countries, some cities are experiencing their lowest numbers of murders in years. Newark, New Jersey had 72 murders in 2017, down from 94 in 2016. New York City’s 300 murders in 2017 is the lowest number the city has had since the 1950s.
In all honesty, some of these numbers, particularly in southern cities can be the lingering after-effects of the failed reconstruction, Jim Crow and red-lining policies which continue to maintain jobs and education deserts within these cities. People of color here have reduced hope, reduced job options and reduced educational opportunities for which they themselves are blamed which can lead to self-loathing and self-destruction that can be massively devastating in ways that are quite similar to cities like Chicago which has had racial riots — led by whites against migrating blacks attempting to escape the South — for over 100 years.
GOP Politicians such as Blake Masters have attempted to blame black people for this gun violence while of course completely ignoring the legacy of continued segregation which has placed people in these near hopeless situations and also ignoring the fact that most mass gun murders are committed by white people, usually white men.
The numbers change slightly when you look at gun-based murders per state.
Here are the 10 states with the highest gun deaths per capita:
  1. Alaska (24.5 per 100k people)
  2. Alabama (22.9 per 100k people)
  3. Montana (22.5 per 100k people)
  4. Louisiana (21.7 per 100k people)
  5. Mississippi (21.5 per 100k people)
  6. Missouri (21.5 per 100k people)
  7. Arkansas (20.3 per 100k people)
  8. Wyoming (18.8 per 100k people)
  9. West Virginia (18.6 per 100k people)
  10. New Mexico (18.5 per 100k people)
Firearm legislation is a big topic in the United States. It's important to look at the relationship between gun laws and gun deaths in the states. The South is a high-risk area for firearm violence, with those along the Mississippi River consistently reporting some of the highest gun mortality rates. Southern states, such as Florida and Louisiana, have seen sharp increases in gun violence since enacting stand your ground laws. Since enacting its stand your ground law in 2005, Florida has seen a 32% increase in gun deaths.
The rate of firearm deaths and a state's strictness of gun laws have a strong correlation in some states, while not as much in others. Alaska, which has some of the laxest gun laws, has the highest firearm deaths in the country. However, Delaware has significantly stricter gun laws than Virginia but has a higher rate of firearm deaths.
Suicides account for the highest number of gun-related deaths in the U.S. The Pew Research Center reports that since the 1990s, gun homicides have declined while suicides by firearm have increased. Of the 39,773 firearm deaths in the country in 2017, 23,854 were by suicide, about 60%. Gun-related suicides are most common in Wyoming, Montana, and Alaska. Suicide is especially high among American Indian and Alaskan Native populations, greatly contributing to Alaska's high rate of gun deaths.
Here Chicago and Illinois don't even make the Top 10.
Again, the predominance is among Red States starting out with Anchorage which again has a Republican Mayor. The prominence of guns and gun culture, stand your grounds laws, higher rates of suicide and lax gun safety laws are all contributing factors to higher rates of gun death.
But you won't hear that on Fox News — not without a loud chorus of nay-sayers immediately shouting down the speaker as soon as they bring up the subject of “Red State Murders.”
 
Suicides account for the highest number of gun-related deaths in the U.S. The Pew Research Center reports that since the 1990s, gun homicides have declined while suicides by firearm have increased.
They buried that shit hard.

And it isn't anything doesn't expect.

That's why we tell people from the city not to come to the country or Red States.

Why, we've got roving packs of cowboys just shooting people for fun.

And children hiding in cornfields.

And swarms of man eating locusts.

Seriously, it's hell out here in the Red States, stay away.
 
Keeping in mind that “crime rates” “murder rates” and “homicide rates” are statistically and legally different, this argument means nothing.

In order for a murder to be recorded as such, it has to be charged. Same with a crime. Homicide rates are the only reliable barometer of safety for a region as homicides are any and all recorded deaths that are not of natural causes (including suicides until they are determined as such).

Tldr lies, damn lies, and statistics
 
  1. Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
  2. Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
  3. Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
  4. Maryland (9 per 100k)
  1. St. Louis, MO (69.4)
  2. Baltimore, MD (51.1)
  3. New Orleans, LA (40.6)
  4. Detroit, MI (39.7)
Weird that the red states with the highest crime rates have the cities with the highest per capita black population. Great burn, dailykos. Doing your fellow blacks proud, popping a cap in these statistics.
 
In cities, you have a high concentration of population, but you can also have a higher concentration of poverty which combined can generate envy and jealousy that intern leads to violence.
  1. St. Louis, MO (69.4)
  2. Baltimore, MD (51.1)
  3. New Orleans, LA (40.6)
  4. Detroit, MI (39.7)
  5. Cleveland, OH (33.7)
  6. Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
  7. Kansas City, MO (31.2)
  8. Memphis, TN (27.1)
  9. Newark, NJ (25.6)
  10. Chicago, IL (24)
Gee, I wonder what else those cities have "a high concentration of"?
GOP Politicians such as Blake Masters have attempted to blame black people for this gun violence while of course completely ignoring the legacy of continued segregation which has placed people in these near hopeless situations and also ignoring the fact that most mass gun murders are committed by white people, usually white men.
"What do we say about how black people commit so many murders?"

"I dunno, just talk about "the legacy of segregation" or something like that."...
In all honesty, some of these numbers, particularly in southern cities can be the lingering after-effects of the failed reconstruction, Jim Crow and red-lining policies which continue to maintain jobs and education deserts within these cities. People of color here have reduced hope, reduced job options and reduced educational opportunities
Niggers, literally half the cities on that list are in the North. Being on the winning side of the civil war doesn't seem to make you immune from Category 5 Chimpouts either, so what the fuck are you talking about?

Funny how everything's to blame except the cause. I wonder if white liberals, in their heart-of-hearts, know that these animals are dangerous, violent people, or if they've truly been brainwashed at this point.
 
The murders in New Orleans don't have anything to do with the 'lingering effects of Jim Crow and Reconstruction', they're almost all caused by Lavonte stepping on Peanut's brand new sneakers, or Ray-Ray messing with Javarious' girlfriend, or Jemarius dealing drugs on a corner claimed by a different ward's crew, or drug rips, or straight robberies that go wrong when the victim doesn't comply or starts fighting back. Then there's the second-wave murders, when the homies/relatives of any of the above murder victims go looking for the killer/the killer's relatives/the killer's friends and kill them. The cycle just keeps on going, the wheel keeps turning.
 
Oh look, cities are higher crime than rurals. Stop the fucking presses.
 
Doesn’t apply to murders, but blue states have stopped keeping track of crime. No one bothers to report anything non-life-threatening anymore because the police don’t do anything. Crime is up and way higher, but politicians and journalists like to tout how defunding the police and Soros prosecutors “had no effect on crime”.
 
Maybe the white people in those states are hard-r Republicans because of the crime rates and not the other way around.
 
Here are the 10 states with the highest murder rate:
  1. Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
  2. Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
  3. Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
  4. Maryland (9 per 100k)
  5. Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
  6. Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
  7. Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
  8. Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
  9. Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
  10. South Carolina (7.8 per 100k)
Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the U.S. of 14.4 murders per 100,000 residents. Murders were more than twice as common in Louisiana as they were nationwide. Murders are disproportionately concentrated in urban areas, especially New Orleans. New Orleans has a murder rate of about 37 per 100,000 residents, one of the highest of any U.S. city, followed by Baton Rouge with a murder rate of 35.1.
Alabama has the second-highest murder rate of 12.9 murders per 100,000 residents. This is also more than twice the rate nationwide. In Alabama, Birmingham has the most gun violence and, therefore, the highest murder rate of 37.1. Fairfield, Anniston, Pritchard, and Troy are other cities with the highest murder rates in Alabama.
Mississippi has the third-highest murder rate in the United States. Mississippi’s murder rate is 12.7 murders per 100,000 residents. According to the latest FBI data, Jackson had the most murders in 2018 of 78, which is a murder rate of 47 murders per 100,000 residents. Brookhaven has the highest murder rate in the state of 57.7 murders per 100,000 people.
Missouri has the fourth-highest murder rate of 11.3 murders per 100,000 residents. Murders in Missouri are disproportionately concentrated in metropolitan areas – about 90% of murders committed in 2017 in Missouri were committed in metropolitan areas. St. Louis and KansasCity are two of the most dangerous cities in the United States. In 2017, St. Louis had 205 murders and Kansas City had 150.
Alaska has the fifth-highest murder rate in the U.S. with a rate of 10.6 murders per 100,000 residents. Alaska has the highest violent crime rate of any state of 829 incidents per 100,000 residents. The most dangerous city in Alaska is Anchorage, where the violent crime rate is 1,203 per 100,000 residents and 27 people were murdered in 2017.
The mayor of New Orleans, Louisiana is a Democrat.

The mayor of Birmingham, Alabama is a Democrat.

The mayor of Brookaven, Mississippi is a Republican.

The mayor of St. Louis, Missouri is a Democrat.

The mayor of Kansas City, Missouri is a Democrat.

The mayor of Anchorage, Alaska is a Republican.

The high crime rates in the majority of those red states seems to come from mostly Democrat led cities.
:thinking:
 
GOP Politicians such as Blake Masters have attempted to blame black people for this gun violence while of course completely ignoring the legacy of continued segregation which has placed people in these near hopeless situations and also ignoring the fact that most mass gun murders are committed by white people, usually white men.
So when blacks find themselves in a 'near hopeless' situation, rather than uniting to further their own interests, would rather kill each other instead?

Gee, sounds like the sort of people I'd love to have living near me.

But you won't hear that on Fox News — not without a loud chorus of nay-sayers immediately shouting down the speaker as soon as they bring up the subject of “Red State Murders.”
No, you won't, because most crimes are committed, investigated, and prosecuted at the municipal/county/parish level, you absolute brainlet.
 
Most people reading this thread: "Hahaha, what a hilarious self-own, get fucked DailyKos."
Jaimas reading this thread: "Holy shit, New York, we did it! We're not top 20 in murders anymore! I'm so proud of you."
 
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