Disaster Democrats face blowback after boosting far-right Michigan candidate - Democrats help primary a #NeverTrumper.

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — Democrats faced a backlash Wednesday — including from within their own ranks — after inserting themselves into a GOP primary in western Michigan, helping a far-right candidate who has embraced false claims about the 2020 election to topple a Republican who had voted to impeach Donald Trump.

Democrats this year have tried to interfere in multiple GOP primaries, using ads that appear to be attacks on more extreme candidates as a way to subtly promote those contenders. The idea is to line up opponents who the Democrats believe to be more easily beatable in the general election.

But Tuesday’s vote was the first in which the closeness of the outcome — Trump-endorsed challenger John Gibbs won with 52 percent of the vote, according to unofficial returns — suggested that the Democrats’ meddling may have tipped the results.

Now, Democrats will see whether their high-stakes gambit to take out Rep. Peter Meijer will win them the seat in November. Regardless of what happens, critics say the attempt to boost Gibbs is reckless and undermines Democrats’ argument that they are the party upholding democracy.

“It’s cynical and dangerous,” said Richard Hasen, a UCLA law professor and director of the Safeguarding Democracy Project. “We know that the Trumpian wing of the Republican Party is doing a lot to undermine people’s confidence in the fairness and integrity of elections. The idea that Democrats would be willing to gamble on electing more of these people because they think they’ll be easier to beat in the general election really is playing with fire.”

Some of the criticism has come from within the party.

“That type of playing the other side stuff is, I think, a very risky proposition,” Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) said Wednesday. “It’s a dangerous proposition for a campaign committee to instead of propelling Democrats, trying to propel a Republican in a primary. Because they actually may win in the end and you’ll have someone who’s even more extreme.”

The second-guessing from Democrats had been building before primary day.

“I’m disgusted that hard-earned money intended to support Democrats is being used to boost Trump-endorsed candidates, particularly the far-right opponent of one of the most honorable Republicans in Congress,” Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) posted on Twitter last week when the ad debuted.

Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.), a member of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack, told Politico last week: “No race is worth compromising your values in that way.”

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spent $435,000 on its ad, which showed a string of images of Gibbs with Trump and called him “too conservative for west Michigan.” Those apparent criticisms may have struck many Republican primary voters as a compliment.

Meijer, who is in his first term, had earned the ire of Trump and many of his supporters by becoming one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach the him after the Capitol insurrection.

“Democrats got the matchup they wanted and in the process threw overboard one of the few members of the House Republican Conference who was willing to stand on principle and stand up for the Constitution. It’s reprehensible,” said Kevin Seifert, a campaign adviser to Meijer.

A couple of hours before conceding the race Tuesday night, Meijer told reporters it was too soon to tell what effect the ad had had. He called the effort a troubling move by a party that has repeatedly warned that Trump and his allies are trying to undermine democracy.

“I know a lot of people — my Democratic colleagues in Washington — have been outraged by just the cynicism and hypocrisy that that represented,” he said at a downtown Grand Rapids bar where his supporters had gathered.

In an essay he posted online on Monday, Meijer accused the Democrats of not just helping Gibbs but “subsidizing his entire campaign” because their ad cost more than Gibbs’s campaign has spent on the race, a figure that campaign finance filings show was $334,000. Meijer noted that he has been censured by Republican Party chapters in his district and called a traitor by some of his onetime allies.

“Watching this unraveling inside my party has been utterly bewildering,” Meijer wrote. “The only thing that has been more nauseating has been the capacity of my Democratic colleagues to sell out any pretense of principle for political expediency — at once decrying the downfall of democracy while rationalizing the use of their hard-raised dollars to prop up the supposed object of their fears.”

Hasen, the UCLA law professor, echoed that sentiment.

“Democracy cannot be sustained by just having one party believing in it and helping to purge the other party of democracy-supporting members,” he said.

As voters went to the polls Tuesday, Gibbs downplayed the role of the ad, arguing that the work of his supporters had given him momentum. He rejected the Democrats’ premise that they could more easily beat him than Meijer in a district that leans slightly Democratic.

“Meijer, first of all, has lost so much Republican support that he would never be able to win that general election in November,” Gibbs told reporters outside a community center in the Grand Rapids suburb Byron Center after casting his ballot. “Many Republicans will stay home or skip over his selection on the ballot because of the way he betrayed Republican voters. So he’s completely unelectable in a general.”

Gibbs in November will face Democrat Hillary Scholten, who was unopposed in Tuesday’s Democratic primary. Scholten lost to Meijer by six points in 2020, but since then, the district has been redrawn to favor Democrats.

Scholten issued a statement Wednesday saying that “the ad by the DCCC is exactly the kind of thing that makes me fed up with Washington and ready to fight for the people of West Michigan.”

Terri Itter, a sterilization technician in a dentist’s office, cast her ballot for Gibbs on Tuesday at a fire station in Alpine Township, north of Grand Rapids. She said she was bothered by Meijer’s impeachment vote because she didn’t think anyone had done anything wrong on Jan. 6

As for Gibbs, she said she received a mailer criticizing him for his support for Trump, but she considered that trait an asset. “I know that they think that he’s too conservative,” Itter, 59, said of Gibbs.

Other voters said Trump’s endorsement had the opposite of its intended effect.

“I’m not a Trump fan,” said Jessica Morgan, a 38-year-old stay-at-home mom who considers herself a libertarian.

Gibbs “was very heavily endorsed and very firmly believes that everything is corrupt and we have to hate our government as it is,” Morgan said. “And I like to have more faith than that, so Peter Meijer was the safer bet.”

Kris Trevino, who voted in the Democratic primary, said he didn’t agree with Meijer on many issues but respected his vote to impeach Trump. He had hoped to see Meijer beat Gibbs, and said he thought Democrats should have focused on their own contests instead of helping a candidate they view as willing to usurp democracy.

“I personally don’t want anybody who’s endorsed by Trump just because I don’t believe the whole election lie stuff,” said Trevino, 29, who works in cybersecurity. “And so anybody that has anything to do with election denial, I just want them out.”

 
There are posts calling for the destruction of marginalized people's rights on r/conservative and other subs. How is that not right wing?
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Honestly that's an Everyone's Shitty Here situation. Yes, they cheated him, but also he should commit to the party or run as an Independent.
Trump was never a Republican, he just looked around and saw that the biggest competition was ¡Jeb! so it would be a cakewalk. If the situation had been like it will be the next election, he'd run as a Democrat because Joe Brandon's a weak target and they have no one else, he'd clean up and say, "we were just talking about how many wonderful abortions we have here in California, the biggest, latest term abortions."

The Republicans honored their rules and didn't play dirty, so the guy people wanted got in, and they won.

The Democrats had the media report superdelegates as Hilary's before any votes were cast so it looked like she had a commanding lead from day onr, started the Bernie Bro bullshit, and then four years later when he was legit winning they got everyone but Warren into a room and made them drop out so they could shoot Zombie Joe up with speed and push him across the finish line. It's funny, if Trump hadn't gotten Covid and acted like an unhinged lunatic in that one debate, he would have won by enough to make the election theft thing a non-issue. With how many around him in Washington hated him, you have to wonder.

That's my talking point to weirdos like She-Rod when they bring up stealing elections. Not even going back to JFK's father buying him the election and Nixon being too big of a statesman not to push the issue for the good of the nation.

If they stole it from Bernie, why wouldn't they steal it from Trump?
 
I like how you try to downplay it, as if they didn't intend on killing several politicians just because they didn't back their Cheeto benito.
And applying your logic below, most participants didn't want to kill those politicians, so they were also mostly peaceful. if anything, it was more so, as they didn't kill anyone, and all attributable fatalities were of the protestors.
The difference is that the Floyd protests (which were mostly peaceful) are justified in their pursuit to end police brutality. Walking in to the capital just to kill people you dislike isn't.
I think we actually found a person who unironically believes the CNN chiron:
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Setting aside the fact that instances of police brutality are decontextualuzed to generate outrage and greatly hyperbolized by the media, as is the notion of systemic racism, if BLMs cause were actually justified, it's strangely coincidental that BLM protests only occur during Presidential election years, and the protests stopped as soon as the polling numbers showed that the vast number of voters were against it.

it's also curious how quickly the Democratic Party did a complete 180 and shelved BLM once polling showed that the vast majority of Americans were concerned about rising crime rates that were a direct result of those very protests they had once championed. It's almost as if all of it is artificially inflated in order to score cheap political points, but that obviously couldn't be from the Defenders of Our Democracy.
 
Democrats overturned Democracy and stole the election from Bernie twice because they didn't like the results.
Honestly that's an Everyone's Shitty Here situation. Yes, they cheated him, but also he should commit to the party or run as an Independent.
I'm pretty sure primaries are such that there would be zero problem with them not having a primary and instead appointing someone as their nominee.
 
And applying your logic below, most participants didn't want to kill those politicians, so they were also mostly peaceful. if anything, it was more so, as they didn't kill anyone, and all attributable fatalities were of the protestors.

I think we actually found a person who unironically believes the CNN chiron:
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Setting aside the fact that instances of police brutality are decontextualuzed to generate outrage and greatly hyperbolized by the media, as is the notion of systemic racism, if BLMs cause were actually justified, it's strangely coincidental that BLM protests only occur during Presidential election years, and the protests stopped as soon as the polling numbers showed that the vast number of voters were against it.

it's also curious how quickly the Democratic Party did a complete 180 and shelved BLM once polling showed that the vast majority of Americans were concerned about rising crime rates that were a direct result of those very protests they had once championed. It's almost as if all of it is artificially inflated in order to score cheap political points, but that obviously couldn't be from the Defenders of Our Democracy.
Most participants did want to do exactly that. What other reason did they have for breaking into the capital building?
Also, how are the instances of police brutality "decontextualized"? Sure, Floyd wasn't a good guy but his treatment at the hands of police was still bad.
 
Most participants did want to do exactly that. What other reason did they have for breaking into the capital building?
Also, how are the instances of police brutality "decontextualized"? Sure, Floyd wasn't a good guy but his treatment at the hands of police was still bad.
This is another one...during the trial if someone talked about it I asked if they watched the video. They'd say yes, meaning the short cell phone video, not the officer cam video that showed him screaming "I can't breathe" for 20 minutes while kicking the cops in the face when they were calmly trying to get him into the back of the car. The decontextualization is presenting what happened as "this guy was minding his own business and was just thrown on the ground where a 130 lb cop knelt on his back until he suffocated him - look, he was saying he couldn't breathe guise!"
 
The difference is that Democrats didn't attempt to overthrow our democracy because they didn't like the results. That's what right wingers did on January 6th.
Oh shit, this nigga again.
Why do you hate Jews? What have they done to you?
Also, you do know that jesus was a Jew as well, right?
Nigga, Herod targeted Jew babies exclusively. Herod was Jewish himself also.
 
I like how you try to downplay it, as if they didn't intend on killing several politicians just because they didn't back their Cheeto benito.

The difference is that the Floyd protests (which were mostly peaceful) are justified in their pursuit to end police brutality. Walking in to the capital just to kill people you dislike isn't.
The 2020 riots was a cavalcade of insane violence where the left gleefully murdered men women and children by the dozens. They did so in order to make Donald Trump look bad. The fact it would incidentally let them rip away law enforcement from vulnerable minorities (something that has gotten even more of them killed) and replace it with a woke police force was secondary.

The jan 6th riot meanwhile featured not a single building burnt down and the only murder that took play was one of the protesters was shot.
 
Look, I'm sorry everyone, I didn't understand why Null closed new account registrations, until now.

He posts shitty opinions about election integrity and media presentation of police violence incidents, we take the time to reply, and he ignores that to shriek "why no like Jew???"

And Jesus was half Jewish, half Holy Spirit, the cleansing power of which burned out the influence of his earthly half. His mother Mary was retconned into being Italian anyway.
 
Look, I'm sorry everyone, I didn't understand why Null closed new account registrations, until now.

He posts shitty opinions about election integrity and media presentation of police violence incidents, we take the time to reply, and he ignores that to shriek "why no like Jew???"

And Jesus was half Jewish, half Holy Spirit, the cleansing power of which burned out the influence of his earthly half. His mother Mary was retconned into being Italian anyway.
Does it really matter what Jesus was? All these Jews shrieking that Jesus was a Jew are about as retarded as people actually humoring the statement with a straight face,
 
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