Crime For Young Offenders, Restitution Debts Can Present Crippling Obstacles

No fucks given at all. She did the crimes, she caused others damage, she needs to pay. Looks like she keeps making poor life choices, too. Where's the baby's father?


For Young Offenders, Restitution Debts Can Present Crippling Obstacles​


Erica L. Green
Thu, July 14, 2022 at 12:31 PM



WASHINGTON — Arabella Guevara spent much of her adolescence paying for her mistakes.

She entered the juvenile justice system at 13, after she ran away from home for the first time, hoping to escape a volatile relationship with her mother. Before long, running away escalated to petty theft, then stealing cars and breaking into homes. It cost her nearly two years spent in and out of juvenile facilities, and many additional months still tied to the system through probation.

When her final stint on probation ended last year and her juvenile record was sealed because she had turned 18, “It was like a whole chapter of my life that had been closed,” Guevara said. “I was free.”

But before long she began receiving monthly reminders that she was anything but. Bills totaling $60,000 in restitution owed for her crimes began pouring in, drowning the teenager in debt just as she had started trying to get back on her feet.

Guevara, now 19, is one of thousands of teenagers and young adults across the country paying restitution imposed by juvenile courts to compensate their victims for losses and damages related to their crimes. But a new report examining the practice asserts that many are paying into a broken system — one that often derails the lives of the young offenders the juvenile system was created to rehabilitate, all the while delaying or even denying compensation to their victims.

The report, published Thursday by the Juvenile Law Center, a national legal aid and advocacy group based in Philadelphia, sheds light on a rarely scrutinized process through which juvenile offenders can become trapped in a perpetual cycle of debts owed to society.

Guevara has been off probation for more than a year; she has had no encounters with the police. She is the mother of a newborn boy, and works at an advocacy organization in her hometown, San Jose, California, helping at-risk youth stay out of the criminal justice system.

“I have to pay for a crime that I’ve already paid for, and I can’t afford it,” Guevara said. “It’s like society has deemed us as unworthy of redemption.”
While the imposition of similarly burdensome fines and fees on juvenile offenders and their families has drawn attention from policymakers in recent years, advocates and lawyers say the restitution system has proved more difficult to reform. That’s in part because that system is built on a false premise, they say.

“The theory of restitution is to make the victim whole, and there’s also supposed to be a lesson to the child that their actions have consequences,” said Nicole El, the assistant chief of the Children and Youth Justice Unit in Philadelphia’s Public Defender’s Office. “What it does in practice is handcuff children and their families financially.”

The Juvenile Law Center report, which examined youth restitution laws in all 50 states and 6 U.S. territories, does not quantify how many young people owe restitution from year to year. But it found a patchwork of policies that the report’s authors described as delivering “justice by geography,” burdening indigent youth with little to no income with debts that many will never pay or finish paying. And although the system was created in the 1960s as a way to offer mostly white juvenile offenders an alternative to jail, it now largely burdens poor youth of color, who are overrepresented in the juvenile justice system.

Every juvenile court across the country has the right to order restitution — usually imposed for crimes such as property damage and theft — but the way amounts are determined varies wildly, as does enforcement, the report found.

Eleven states and territories mandate restitution when any quantifiable damages are assessed, while the rest leave it up to a judge’s discretion. Only five states and three territories cap the restitution a young offender can be ordered to pay, the report found. Those who cannot pay end up facing a range of penalties — including incarceration, extended probation and the inability to expunge their records — that can keep young people entangled in the system well beyond the length of their sentences. In one of the most extreme policies, the report found, juvenile courts in Washington state can retain jurisdiction over young people until they turn 28, and can extend a restitution judgment by 10 additional years for collection purposes.

But the report also pointed to an equally worrisome outcome: The system rarely works as intended for crime victims themselves. In states that report restitution collections, none reported more than a third of such payments actually being collected. One study cited in the report found that as much as 77% of all restitution ordered goes uncollected.

Fourteen jurisdictions order restitution to be paid to third parties, such as government agencies and insurance companies, while others require young people to pay into state victim compensation funds, which are difficult for many victims to access.

Victims’ rights groups also see shortcomings in the system. The National Center for Victims of Crime said in a statement that while it believes financial compensation is an important part of the “restorative process” for crime survivors, it also believes that “imposing high restitution costs on juveniles who are justice involved can unintentionally cause more harm by creating barriers to release and services.”

“In addition,” the statement said, “we know that the majority of youth who are justice involved have histories of trauma and victimization, and a large financial obligation may cause even more harm. We would encourage communities to engage with both survivors and justice-involved youth to determine a process that is fair and restorative to all parties.”

The Juvenile Law Center is advocating several reforms, including alternatives such as diversion programs with a restorative justice approach and expanding the eligibility for state victim compensation funds.

Maine passed legislation in 2019 that reformed its juvenile restitution system and is showing results, legal experts say. The new statutes now presume that people younger than 16 are not able to pay restitution, allow for a juvenile offender’s restitution to be reduced or wiped clean should their circumstances change, and require payments to go directly to victims rather than corporations like insurance companies.
As a result, youth offenders in their 20s have been able to leave the juvenile system after having their restitution balances discharged, said Christopher Northrop, a clinical professor at the University of Maine School of Law, who also leads a legal aid clinic that helped advocate the changes. Younger offenders, who are allowed to perform community service and other restorative justice activities in lieu of payment, have seen their cases resolved more quickly.

“It has eliminated the collateral consequence of system involvement for young people so they can get on with their lives,” said Jill Ward, an adjunct professor at the Law School and director of the Maine Center for Juvenile Policy and Law.

More than 30 states do not require courts to consider whether a youth can pay. Some expressly prohibit them from doing so, which the report said can present crippling obstacles to youth as they transition to adulthood. They can face garnished wages, including from their commissary accounts while in juvenile detention and their paychecks when they are employed.

Some laws allow unpaid restitution to accrue interest, and turn into a civil liability, which can in turn wreak havoc on credit scores and other public records of consequence.

Ultimately, the report found, “this means a child from a well-off family who can easily pay off restitution gets a clean slate as they leave the system, while a child from a poor family is stuck with a record of juvenile justice involvement for no reason other than poverty.”

In some states, such as California, where Guevara lives, the financial responsibility falls to the parents if a youth cannot pay.

Since being released from juvenile detention, Guevara has been living with her mother off and on; though their relationship has remained rocky, they have survived homelessness and eviction together, and Guevara did not want to further burden her.

After receiving notices threatening to take them both to court, she began paying $7 per month to the state, which is what she can afford while working part time for $20 an hour and paying her bills.

Her restitution payments are supposed to cover medical bills for the injuries one victim suffered when she tried to prevent Guevara from stealing her car; fees to change security systems and locks in the homes she invaded; and damage to the cars that she stole.

The philosophy that “you do the crime, you pay the fine” is pervasive in courts, advocates say, but it undermines the very point of a system that is supposed to be redemptive, rather than punitive, as the adult system is, El said.

She and other public defenders often find themselves performing a balancing act in trying to advocate for their clients, she said, many of whom come from households with incomes under $10,000 a year. “We don’t want victims to be out thousands and thousands of dollars — we’re people like everyone else — but we’re also representing children,” El said. “And is it reasonable that children can pay back thousands of dollars? It is not.”


In studies cited in the report, interviews with victims eligible for restitution found that very few seek monetary compensation from juvenile offenders.

Moreover, state-reported data reviewed by the Juvenile Law Center shows that those victims who do seek restitution from young offenders rarely succeed in collecting it. For example, in a 2017 study conducted in Alabama, only 15% of the restitution fees related to juvenile cases were eventually collected.

Guevara said she thinks about her victims often, particularly an elderly man whose car she stole. She later found out he was a retired sheriff. He visited her in a juvenile facility and was so disturbed at the sight of her in shackles that he requested they be removed.

Sitting across from her, the former sheriff, who declined to be interviewed, said all he wanted was to know what had happened in her life that brought her to that night, and a promise from her that she would work toward righting her path.

These days, she said, keeping that promise feels ever more elusive.

The two-bedroom apartment Guevara shared with her mother and four others felt too crowded recently, and tensions began running high. Determined not to expose her son to the tumult that characterized her own childhood, she found herself on the move again.
The same week she became homeless, her restitution was abruptly raised to $100 per month — or, by Guevara’s calculation, four packs of diapers and three of baby formula.

“I was doing good, just trying to do the right thing, and it’s not enough for them,” she said. “It’s like I’m locked up again.”


 
Do you treat it like a badge of honor like hood rats that brag about how much jail time they've served?
no it's a yellow light and you can take it as a chance to slow down and stop what you're doing or ignore it and mess up further.

good people can make mistakes and bad people can change their ways. condemning the first forever and preventing the other from even trying to change or punishing them for changing is wrong. nothing else to it.
 
no it's a yellow light and you can take it as a chance to slow down and stop what you're doing or ignore it and mess up further.

good people can make mistakes and bad people can change their ways. condemning the first forever and preventing the other from even trying to change or punishing them for changing is wrong. nothing else to it.
Okay so by your logic she saw the yellow light and instead of slowing down she slammed on the gas and t-boned a full ambulance.
 
Okay so by your logic she saw the yellow light and instead of slowing down she slammed on the gas and t-boned a full ambulance.
she didn't though. she went into the system, served time, got out, found a career that tries to prevent youths from doing what she did, and is still paying for it.

one of her victims sat in front of her while she was in lock up to ask why she did it. no where have i said she shouldn't have to pay. 60,000 is ridiculous to expect and as the article pointed out. VICTIMS. DO. NOT. ACCESS. THAT. MONEY. this is just a soft way to keep her on paper and its evident in how difficult it is for victims to access the funds.

nowhere have i said it should just all be forgiven. small reductions for continued pay and the system should've set up an amount she has to pay monthly within reason. 7 dollars is not enough a month, but considering her situation there has to be an amount that is reasonable, meaningful, and shows that she is taking responsibility. there should be forgiveness for consistency. not total forgiveness, but acknowledgement that she is on the right path.
 
she didn't though. she went into the system, served time, got out, found a career that tries to prevent youths from doing what she did, and is still paying for it.

one of her victims sat in front of her while she was in lock up to ask why she did it. no where have i said she shouldn't have to pay. 60,000 is ridiculous to expect and as the article pointed out. VICTIMS. DO. NOT. ACCESS. THAT. MONEY. this is just a soft way to keep her on paper and its evident in how difficult it is for victims to access the funds.

nowhere have i said it should just all be forgiven. small reductions for continued pay and the system should've set up an amount she has to pay monthly within reason. 7 dollars is not enough a month, but considering her situation there has to be an amount that is reasonable, meaningful, and shows that she is taking responsibility. there should be forgiveness for consistency. not total forgiveness, but acknowledgement that she is on the right path.
I really like how you keep thinking they 'put themselves on the right path' but keep leaving out that after getting out her first course of action was having a kid; as if that was the next logical step in becoming an adult.

If anything she was most certainly warned that she might have to make monetary restitutions and figured a brat would make a great false flag. 'I got me a baby now, I can't pay for shit'.

She's also choosing to be homeless. There are places for single mothers with children and no place to go.
 
she didn't though. she went into the system, served time, got out, found a career that tries to prevent youths from doing what she did, and is still paying for it.

one of her victims sat in front of her while she was in lock up to ask why she did it. no where have i said she shouldn't have to pay. 60,000 is ridiculous to expect and as the article pointed out. VICTIMS. DO. NOT. ACCESS. THAT. MONEY. this is just a soft way to keep her on paper and its evident in how difficult it is for victims to access the funds.

nowhere have i said it should just all be forgiven. small reductions for continued pay and the system should've set up an amount she has to pay monthly within reason. 7 dollars is not enough a month, but considering her situation there has to be an amount that is reasonable, meaningful, and shows that she is taking responsibility. there should be forgiveness for consistency. not total forgiveness, but acknowledgement that she is on the right path.
In California, where this brat is, restitution is paid directly to the victim for the full amount of the victim's loss by law. She's not being excessively punished, she's paying back exactly the amount of damage she caused which, was proven by the victims with documentation. It's not the judge or the criminal justice system being a meaniepants.

Anytime a crime victim suffers a loss, the offender should be ordered to pay restitution for that loss. A victim’s right to a criminal restitution order stems from Article I, section 28, subdivision (b) of the California Constitution.

Restitution orders are to be imposed for the full amount of a victim’s economic loss. If the amount of a victim’s loss is not known at the time of the offender’s sentencing, the restitution order shall later be determined at the direction of the court. (Pen. Code § 1202.4, subd. (f).)

Under Penal Code section 1202.4, subdivision (f)(3)(H)), the court can order the offender to pay the victim for actual and reasonable attorney’s fees and other costs of collection accrued by a private entity on behalf of the victim.

Additionally, an offender has the right to a hearing to dispute the amount of restitution ordered by the judge. (Pen. Code § 1202.4, subd. (f)(1).)

Restitution orders are enforceable as if they were civil judgments. (Pen. Code § 1202.4, subd. (i).) However, there are no statutes of limitations. No need exists to convert restitution orders to civil judgments.

If a victim of crime has received financial assistance from CalVCB, the court may order the offender to repay the program via a restitution order pursuant to Penal Code section 1202.4, subdivision (f).
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/victim-services/restitution/
https://victims.ca.gov/restitution/
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/victim-advocacy/calculating-restitution/
 
yeah i know what fucking juvie is and sometimes it doesn't work out that way genius. it can still be a one way ticket to being on paper and locked up longer.

i'm guessing you never spent time in juvie.
Use some proper fucking punctuation you illiterate fuck.

For someone who claims to be a Jew, you write at a nigger level.
 
criminals should be kept locked up and subjected to forced labor until that labor has paid off their restitution debts in full.
No, no, we must listen to @R00T and have this (I assume) melanated individual be the victim's house slave on weekends. Is it yard/field work only or are we allowed to make them shuck'n'jive?
Edit: I keep coming back to how fucktarded this logic is. So the state is powerless to buck-break this sheboon. But now we're supposed to expect the victim she put in the hospital to take that task and play overseer for restitution?
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no it's a yellow light and you can take it as a chance to slow down and stop what you're doing or ignore it and mess up further.

good people can make mistakes and bad people can change their ways. condemning the first forever and preventing the other from even trying to change or punishing them for changing is wrong. nothing else to it.
"Oh whoops, I keep breaking into houses and carjacking people"
 
Isn’t there a way to avoid paying restitution?
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I hate journalists. Whoever wrote this shit wants you to feel sorry for a woman who beat another person badly enough that she had to go to the hospital, then some program hooked her up with a 20/hour job, and the bitch still can't pay back a fraction of the medical bills.
 
The philosophy that “you do the crime, you pay the fine” is pervasive in courts, advocates say, but it undermines the very point of a system that is supposed to be redemptive, rather than punitive, as the adult system is, El said.

Part of being redemptive is redeeming yourself. Fucking people getting turned out by law schools these days.

And being punitive (as in serving an example) is part of the equation, along with isolation and rehabilitation.
 
Determined not to expose her son to the tumult that characterized her own childhood, she found herself on the move again.
One way to do this is give the baby up for adoption. And I would recommend this even if she didn't owe the government 60 grand.
In California, where this brat is, restitution is paid directly to the victim for the full amount of the victim's loss by law. She's not being excessively punished, she's paying back exactly the amount of damage she caused which, was proven by the victims with documentation. It's not the judge or the criminal justice system being a meaniepants.


https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/victim-services/restitution/
https://victims.ca.gov/restitution/
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/victim-advocacy/calculating-restitution/
The "victims" in this situation are the insurance companies that already paid out claims. I suppose it's possible that she's also on the hook for the vics' deductibles, but there's no way that's the bulk of the $60,000.

(This happened years ago, and it's going to take her many more years to scratch the surface of that debt. There's no way California expects the victims to sit around waiting for that money. Insurance took care of it.)

The payments should go to the actual victims (assuming it's supposed to restitute deductibles), and, if she's a good girl for a set amount of years, whatever remains should be written off. A lot of criminals have no interest in turning things around, so, in the rare case where someone is trying, the system shouldn't keep them in hock forever.
She's making $20 an hour and only wanted to send off $7 a month?
Part-time. I also feel it necessary to point out that San Jose is the most expensive large city in California. San Francisco gets more press, but is actually fairly cheaper.

This makes me want to reiterate the advice for her to give the baby up, which would free her to move somewhere more affordable and take on additional hours and jobs to make more money.
 
Not to mention that the car they stole might have been someone's only means of transportation. Imagine living paycheck to paycheck and some asshole steals your car for a quick payday? Even if fully insured that stuff doesn't always kick in next day; every day of missed work hurting you financially, and possibly even cost you a job, just because someone robbed your ass.

Also 60k in restitution? Fuck, that's a massive chunk of change to accrue over your youth for committing crime.
Character of the person in this article notwithstanding, I think there should be a government buyout program for people who have no chance of repaying restitution. The fed pays the victims and assumes the debt. The benefit is that the government can be more flexible in seeing that debt returned and the victims themselves see their restitution repaid in a timely fashion without needing to chase it down.
 
The "victims" in this situation are the insurance companies that already paid out claims. I suppose it's possible that she's also on the hook for the vics' deductibles, but there's no way that's the bulk of the $60,000.

(This happened years ago, and it's going to take her many more years to scratch the surface of that debt. There's no way California expects the victims to sit around waiting for that money. Insurance took care of it.)

The payments should go to the actual victims (assuming it's supposed to restitute deductibles), and, if she's a good girl for a set amount of years, whatever remains should be written off. A lot of criminals have no interest in turning things around, so, in the rare case where someone is trying, the system shouldn't keep them in hock forever.
"The court can order the defendant to pay a victim for losses, even if the victim’s insurance company already reimbursed the victim for those losses. Under Penal Code section 1202.4, subdivision (f)(2), a restitution order is independent of insurance benefits. However, insurance policies may contain provisions for reimbursement from a victim should they recover from the defendant."

Debt doesn't get written off, unless you file for bankruptcy and even then some debt can't be discharged. Why should she get a pass?
 
She chose to commit these crimes. Could have chosen not to commit them. Could have chosen not to keep committing crimes at any time. She chose to continue.

She knew quite well restitution was ordered; this would have been explained very carefully to her when sentence was passed, and by her probation officer. But she whines and complains. Don't even believe what she said about the retired sheriff.

She chose to get the tattoos and what looks like a nose ring. Shit costs money.

Once out of confinement she chose to have this baby. Where's the father? Bet she chose to have this guy's kid in order to keep the guy, and he took a powder. Have seen this a lot in the Hispanic community.

$20/hour is a little about minimum wage in CA, which is $15 or so. Apparently not working forty hours a week. How does she help others? By continuing to be a bad example from which to learn?

What we have here is a continuing pattern of bad life choices. Anyone can make one bad life choice. But when you see a pattern of bad life choices like this stupid twat's, no way can you give a flying fuck for her at all. And I would suggest her baby will end up in foster care fairly soon, now that her tale of epic failure is national news. Also suggest the problems with her mother stem from her mother telling her not to get into trouble, and she thought her mother was full of shit. Cope, seethe, dilate, you idiotic cunt.
 
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