🐱 Can we ever be woke enough for the trans extremists? - Lol no

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What do we do with really difficult issues? In America we have them out. Because we have the right to do so — given to us by the Founders, and noisily exercised ever since. We discuss things, debate them and in the process hopefully solve some problems.

But today there are people everywhere trying to shut things down. People who want to pretend that their view is the only view it should be possible to hold.

It happened again several times this week on the fraught topic of trans issues.

There is almost nobody who actually hates trans people. Almost no one actually wishes them harm. Ours is a very live-and-let live society, and if people want to dress or present one way or another then that´s hardly new. New York alone must count as the most colorful society anywhere on earth.

Yet repeatedly activists pretend that to even discuss this area is to commit a terrible harm. They pretend not only that the evidence around “gender dysphoria” is completely clear, but that it has zero consequences. The trans extremists try to pretend, for instance, that there is no tension at all between some trans rights and some women’s rights. Despite the fact that such tensions — and worse — keep emerging everywhere from college sports to the nation’s jails.

As though to prove that you can never be woke enough, on Monday Representative Rashida Tlaib attacked The New York Times. The squad member did so because she claimed that the Times was publishing anti-trans content. It was, she said “providing a platform for transphobic hate and propaganda with horrifying consequences.” She went on to claim that “Texas just entered NYT articles into evidence to push for the TX Dept of Family & Protective Services to take trans kids away from their supportive parents.”

As is usually the case with Rep Tlaib there are so many problems in that statement that it is hard to know where to begin. Though I would note one in particular. What exactly is a “trans kid”? Does anybody really know? Our society pretends to be radically certain and knowledgeable about this. But in fact we know almost nothing about it.

We have almost no idea why some people believe they are born in the wrong body. We have very little idea of when this is a passing feeling and when it might be a permanent one. And we have almost no understanding at all about the extent to which claims by children that they are trans are in fact a demonstration of “social contagion,” where one kid in a school comes out as trans and a whole bunch of others start to follow suit.

Yet Tlaib pretended to know all of this and more. She speaks about “trans kids” as though it is as straightforward and obvious as saying “ginger haired kids.” Not only does she want to keep up that misplaced certainty. She wants others to keep it up too.

So she must attack the most woke newspaper for daring to publish anything (and it hasn’t published much) which raises the minutest question mark over any of this.

Are there questions marks to be raised? You bet. Considering that the consequences of getting this question wrong means the medical neutering of children and their physical mutilation I would say that the question marks are very real indeed. But everywhere people like Tlaib are busy pretending otherwise.

On Tuesday this week the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on abortion access and the law. One of the people invited to testify was a professor from UC Berkeley (of course) called Khiara M. Bridges. Her “specialist” areas of study are “race, class and reproductive rights.” A well-known and vital specialism. During the hearing Bridges repeatedly referred to “people with a capacity for pregnancy.” Hawley understandably asked about this curious phrase. “Would that be women?” he asked.

In her response Bridges was as patronizing and rude as it was possible to be. Taking on the manner of an elementary school teacher she Berkeley-splained to Hawley: “Many women, cis women, have the capacity for pregnancy. Many cis women do not have the capacity for pregnancy. There are also trans men who are capable of pregnancy, as well as nonbinary people who are capable of pregnancy.”

Of course this is all a modern form of Jesuitical nonsense. “Trans men” who are still capable of pregnancy are still biological women. Nobody really knows what “non-binary” means, other than “look at me.” But anyone identifying themselves as “non-binary” who is also capable of becoming pregnant is also in fact still — wait for the big reveal — a woman.

Laughing nervously as people often do when they don’t know what they are talking about, Bridges then said: “So, um, I want to recognize that your line of questioning is transphobic and it opens up trans people to violence by not recognizing them.” She then went on to say that one out of five transgender people have attempted suicide and that “denying that trans people exist” causes this and much more to happen.

This is the same logic used by Twitter which now suspends peoples’ accounts unless they agree to the latest trans orthodoxy. All based on the same falsehoods that Tlaib and Bridges rehearsed this week. Which is that if you do not go along with an orthodoxy invented a couple of years ago you are actually committing violence.

Bridges condescendingly told Hawley that he should join her class. “You might learn a lot” she said. Hawley was too polite back at her. But the truth is that we are all in her wretched, dim-witted class now. All of America is being told to shut up and just get with the trans program. Otherwise we are killing people. Or making them kill themselves, or something.

What a way to have a debate. Or rather what a way to shut one down. And what an appalling way to approach an issue which — as American parents know — we have the right to think about and discuss.
 
The problem with trying to appease trans activists is that their goals are nebulous and therefore, the goals will always be shifting and the conditions for the goals to be met will be constantly changing. It's different from the [initial] gay rights movement, which sought to equalize homosexuals and heterosexuals by gaining the ability to marry. Now, the more sane individuals in the gay rights movement happily left as soon as they achieved that goal, leading to the more unhinged people to their own devices and in control of the groups.

In their view, gender is considered a spectrum (and can be defined based on one's own feelings rather than a concrete definition) and wholly separate from sex, which makes their conflation all the more amusing when you ask them why trannies need to transition in order to feel more like the other gender.
 
I saw the “Birthing people” lady testifying before Congress and, to me, it looked like she was really desperate to get everyone to agree with her TOTALLY OBVIOUS observations.

If there was no decorum and the congressman went balls to the wall with her I bet she’d have snapped and said some VERY unfortunate things, which the MSM and Social Media would bury as Snopes is like “What do you mean? She didn’t snap at him”
 
The problem with trying to appease trans activists is that their goals are nebulous and therefore, the goals will always be shifting and the conditions for the goals to be met will be constantly changing.
Slight point of disagreement:

I think their goals are clear to them, but what makes their goals seem confusing or nebulous is the total war they're willing to wage to get what they want.

I'm not saying they're all pedos and deviants, but they're willing to carry water for pedos and deviants.
 
I think their goals are clear to them, but what makes their goals seem confusing or nebulous is the total war they're willing to wage to get what they want.
The main reason their goals seem nebulous is because they won't say outright what they are. The best you'll get is, "let trans people be who they are", but what they actually mean is, "pretend the obvious dude is a woman, bigot!"

A lesser reason is that the community is loaded with narcissists who hate each other, so they'll never achieve message discipline or reach consensus as a community.

The most retarded social justice movement ever.
 
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I thought the Post was Right-Wing leaning, you may be thinking of either the Post or the Times, which are left leaning if memory serves.

Unless there’s some content here that I’m missing.
Wasn't the Post just a tabloid? At least that's the impression I get out of it. They'll post anything.
 
Eventually the trannies will be too right wing for the pedophiles who will be the left's darling paragon identity in 20 years. Just like how all the mouthfrothing feminists who dont have dicks and faggy white gays are now "right wing" lol.
 
I saw the “Birthing people” lady testifying before Congress and, to me, it looked like she was really desperate to get everyone to agree with her TOTALLY OBVIOUS observations.

If there was no decorum and the congressman went balls to the wall with her I bet she’d have snapped and said some VERY unfortunate things, which the MSM and Social Media would bury as Snopes is like “What do you mean? She didn’t snap at him”
The latest trend in left wing evangelism seems to be acting as if their views are obviously correct and anyone who disagrees is either an ignorant stump or a hateful demon in human form. The carefully practiced weary schoolmarm act she’s doing is intended to convey to the audience that woke progressivism is the superior, intellectual position and it’s opponents are ridiculous. It’s not an argument, it’s virtue theater.
 
I have to disagree a little with the article: I think many people actually DO hate trannies and other gender specials and would love to see them harmed. Especially when you see ones like Johnathan Yaniv, and it sure does look like there are more who are like him rather than unlike him. Transgenderism is a cancer on society.
 
Wasn't the Post just a tabloid? At least that's the impression I get out of it. They'll post anything.
They used to be. But as we've entered Clown World reality has begun intruding upon their headlines, "President's Son a Useless Crackhead" being the most notable place where that has occurred.
 
I have to disagree a little with the article: I think many people actually DO hate trannies and other gender specials and would love to see them harmed. Especially when you see ones like Johnathan Yaniv, and it sure does look like there are more who are like him rather than unlike him. Transgenderism is a cancer on society.
One of the issues with transgender types is they are unable to see how this plays out. For now, the voices against are not loud enough, mostly because they are banned on social media and any talk will likely land you in ruination. But the thoughts, the private conversations, they continue. I know in the UK there is a bubbling sea of barely concealed hatred for it in large numbers of people, it keeps spilling into the main discourse, who do their best to smash it down. The more they clamp down, the worse it gets. As time goes on, unless a major change happens, it will spill out of control and you will have full on, open hate and disdain. Its not going to stop with trannies either, the gays will get it as well, also straights who supported it when it was in vogue to do so. I suspect something similar is happening in America.

Shit, I had a little gander on the UK reddit over the Telford abuse scandal, and fuck me, many of the posters were saying shit like "I am not racist, but I understand why people who live in this shit are". You can see that as the truth keeps coming out about social justice that the world is just not willing to accept it. There is a reason the press seems to run to its defence seemingly all the time, they can see that even those on the left are getting tired of it. More so when you factor in people are getting arse raped with fuel costs and inflation, and the press wants to talk about how sad some poor black tranny has it because twitter doesn't ban anyone who disagrees with them. I suspect yanks have a similar thing with your trannies, and whilst we have a paki issue, you have a nigger issue. That thing that we all know about, but its never quite openly spoke about.

In the next few decades, it's not out of the realm of possibility that we see the west lurch to a hard right stance on many of these issues. Could have been avoided if the left just acted normally, or at least the normal rational leftists fucking controlled the extreme elements better when they had the chance. It's shit like this that gives rise to people like Hitler and Stalin.
 
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