UN Turkey changes name to "Turkiye" to stop Confusion with Bird - Pronounced Turkey-yeh

The United Nations has changed the Republic of Turkey’s country name at the organisation from “Turkey” to “Türkiye”, following a request from Ankara for the change.

UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric said that a letter had been received on Wednesday from the Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu addressed to Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, requesting the use of “Türkiye” instead of “Turkey” for all affairs.

The spokesman said the country name change became effective from the moment the letter was received.

Cavusoglu announced the letter’s official submission to the UN and other international organisations on Tuesday.

“Together with our Directorate of Communications, we have been successful in preparing a good ground for this,” said the letter.

“We have made it possible for the UN and other international organisations, countries to see this change to using ‘Türkiye’,” Cavusoglu told Anadolu Agency.


Turkey began the move to change its internationally recognised official name in English to Türkiye in December after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan released a memorandum and asked the public to use Türkiye to describe the country in every language.

“Türkiye is accepted as an umbrella brand for our country in national and international venues,” Erdogan said at the time. “Türkiye is the best representation and expression of the Turkish people’s culture, civilization and values.”

Erdogan also advised companies to use “made in Türkiye” for their exported goods, and instructed state agencies to use Türkiye in their correspondence.

UN agrees to change Turkey’s official name to ‘Türkiye’

Turkey began the move to change its internationally recognised official name in English to Türkiye in December.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

People are still going to call it whatever they want anyway in their own language. Most recently, when the Ukraine war broke out, there was all this hand-wringing and policing in English of how to properly say Kiev. Apparently, we adopted the Russian pronunciation and so many pearls were clutched at this until now no one gave a shit issue. People are still going to pronounce it the Russian way in English because that's what they learned, if they ever learned it at all outside the chicken dish.

 

[b0o0pinsn0o0tz]

The U.N. can just up and change a countries name? Since fucking when and why hasn't Canada been renamed Faggot Land?

 

[Angry New Ager]

I don't think it'll catch on because:
1. It's difficult for English speakers to pronounce. "Turk-ee-eh"? And even that's not exactly correct. When it comes to pronunciation the path of least resistance will always win out.

That's hard to pronounce? Really? Go practice it a few times and get back to me.

Look at how many place names have come up in the news that seemed weird or hard to pronounce at first, but now most people can rattle them off. Lots of places in Ukraine, for example.

And sure, most English speakers aren't going to pronounce it perfectly, but they fuck up pronunciations of all kinds of place names already. They might as well fuck up the proper name for a country, rather than keep on using the wrong name just because they can pronounce it perfectly.

2. It's difficult for English speakers to spell. Most people don't even know how to type an umlauted U on their keyboards.

If somebody either doesn't already know how to type an "ü" on their keyboard, or is unwilling/unable to learn, they're a lazy-minded tard who probably couldn't find Türkiye on a map, much less have anything to say about it.

So my bet would be that this renaming effort will simply be ignored.

Türkiye is already the official name of Turkey. It's the name Turks use for their own country, and now they want the rest of the world to use it too. It's not a renaming; they just want the rest of the world to use their real name.

 

[Alter Ego]

Does the UN call Spain Espana? Do they call Japan Nippon?

I bet this was influenced by the bullshit of journalists far and wide suddenly deciding to call Kiev Kyiv.

 

[Corette]

If somebody either doesn't already know how to type an "ü" on their keyboard, or is unwilling/unable to learn, they're a lazy-minded tard who probably couldn't find Türkiye on a map, much less have anything to say about it.

Isn't it that bird place between Hellas and Kurdistan?

 

[Corpun]

They didn't keep their pride though, there is a reason an emu is on the Australian coat of arms.
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Pretty nice COA not gonna lie.

There's something about the phenomenon of trying to change your name in other people's languages that's so retarded, I struggle to adequately explain why. I doubt this one will catch on because TURKISH MAN BAD, but still.

I blame Keev for this trend. I expect more autistic name changes in the future.

 

[Corette]

I blame Keev for this trend.

Peking/Beijing did it some time ago and there was that koran/quran thing too.

 

[Beautiful Border]

And sure, most English speakers aren't going to pronounce it perfectly, but they fuck up pronunciations of all kinds of place names already. They might as well fuck up the proper name for a country, rather than keep on using the wrong name just because they can pronounce it perfectly.

What makes Turkey a "wrong name" exactly? That's how the name naturally developed in English.

It has a history of its own. It's actually extremely uncommon for a country to have one, "correct" name for every language. As far as I'm aware Austrians aren't demanding that English speakers start calling their capital city Wien instead of Vienna, for example. Likewise, I don't think anyone in England has a problem with French and Spanish people calling their capital city Londres instead of London.

Or for another example, look at the huge amount of names Germany has depending on which language you speak... Germany, Deutschland, Allemagne, Tyskland, Saksa, Nemecko, each of these different names reflects something about the language it comes from. If Germany one day demanded that everyone call their country "Deutschland", that history would be lost, and I think that would be a bit of a shame to lose that linguistic diversity.

Turkey is the only country I know of that is insisting that only their way of pronouncing their country's name is correct. It's a mixture of misguided prescriptivism and national chauvinism. The more I think about it the more arrogant of a demand it becomes.

 

[Allanon]

It's causing what must be measurable damage to me that this is not a Babylon Bee or Onion article.

 

[3-2-1836]

First Constantinople, Persia, Siam and now this? What next, is China going to tell us to start calling it Zhongguo?

The Czech Republic has been trying to get people to call them "Czechia" for years and legally changed their English name to that in 2018 but I haven't seen anyone actually use it except for pretentious euros.

 

[greenthrowaway]

Does the UN call Spain Espana? Do they call Japan Nippon?

I bet this was influenced by the bullshit of journalists far and wide suddenly deciding to call Kiev Kyiv.

They do for Ivory Coast by calling it Côte d'Ivoire in Olympics and some journalist sites. Even the faggot French don’t push that for English speakers abroad.

 

[afternoon_tea]

The Czech Republic has been trying to get people to call them "Czechia" for years and legally changed their English name to that in 2018 but I haven't seen anyone actually use it except for pretentious euros.

'Czechia' annoys me on so many levels. "Czech" was already a bit of a weird choice to use as it's English name, but Czechia is even dumber.

"Remember that ch sound we pronounced as a K for some reason, uh it's a regular 'ch' now but also Cz makes the same sound. PS Cz hasn't been part of the Czech language since the mid 1400s but we're still gonna keep it for reasons even though it makes no sense in English"

 

[BelUwUga]

Does the UN call Spain Espana? Do they call Japan Nippon?

I bet this was influenced by the bullshit of journalists far and wide suddenly deciding to call Kiev Kyiv.

I don't think they thought it through when the ZOGbots did it though. Sure I am no longer calling it Key-ev because it is now and forever will be KEEV and this is a hill I am willing to die on.

 

[3-2-1836]

Does the UN call Spain Espana? Do they call Japan Nippon?

I bet this was influenced by the bullshit of journalists far and wide suddenly deciding to call Kiev Kyiv.

I mean a few of Euro countries use their native name as the basis of their license plate codes instead of English so Spain is E, Germany is D, Croatia is HR

'Czechia' annoys me on so many levels. "Czech" was already a bit of a weird choice to use as it's English name, but Czechia is even dumber.

"Remember that ch sound we pronounced as a K for some reason, uh it's a regular 'ch' now but also Cz makes the same sound. PS Cz hasn't been part of the Czech language since the mid 1400s but we're still gonna keep it for reasons even though it makes no sense in English"

The modern English spelling Czech came from the Polish spelling Czeskych.

 

[afternoon_tea]

The modern English spelling Czech came from the Polish spelling Czeskych.

I always assumed this but have had a hard time finding any info on why that was chosen, it's a odd choice for sure. Also was the 'ch' always pronounced as a 'k' or was it originally the Polish 'ch' and then shifted to a k sound over time?

 

[3-2-1836]

I always assumed this but have had a hard time finding any info on why that was chosen, it's a odd choice for sure. Also was the 'ch' always pronounced as a 'k' or was it originally the Polish 'ch' and then shifted to a k sound over time?

Because the name was first transmitted to the west via the legend of Lech, Czech and Rus in the Polish Wielkopolska Chronicle in the 13th century and the very first complete Czech bible (Bible kralická) published in 1579 (which became the standard for Czech orthography) used the spelling Cžechy which was considered the authoritative spelling in Czech until the orthography reforms in 1842 which stripped Czech of polish features such as the use of w, cz, sz and replaced them with v č and š so on so on.

I'm not sure about the phonetics.

 

[Solid Snek]

Does the UN call Spain Espana? Do they call Japan Nippon?

I bet this was influenced by the bullshit of journalists far and wide suddenly deciding to call Kiev Kyiv.

I mean a few of Euro countries use their native name as the basis of their license plate codes instead of English so Spain is E, Germany is D, Croatia is HR
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The modern English spelling Czech came from the Polish spelling Czeskych.

It is bullshit. And it's almost certainly piggybacking on the Kiev thing.

But it's also more than just minor periphery states throwing a little ethnic pride fit.

This is the dissolution of empire. We are witnessing, in real time, the fall of Rome, as our barbarian client kingdoms reject the use of Latin and turn back to their native tongues.



The global order depends on having a shared language that allows all people, across the globe, to communicate with one another. Without a common lingua franca to bind our economic, cultural, and political structures together, the Lexus and the olive tree falls apart.

 

[Kane Lives]

What makes Turkey a "wrong name" exactly? That's how the name naturally developed in English.

It has a history of its own. It's actually extremely uncommon for a country to have one, "correct" name for every language. As far as I'm aware Austrians aren't demanding that English speakers start calling their capital city Wien instead of Vienna, for example. Likewise, I don't think anyone in England has a problem with French and Spanish people calling their capital city Londres instead of London.

Or for another example, look at the huge amount of names Germany has depending on which language you speak... Germany, Deutschland, Allemagne, Tyskland, Saksa, Nemecko, each of these different names reflects something about the language it comes from. If Germany one day demanded that everyone call their country "Deutschland", that history would be lost, and I think that would be a bit of a shame to lose that linguistic diversity.

Turkey is the only country I know of that is insisting that only their way of pronouncing their country's name is correct. It's a mixture of misguided prescriptivism and national chauvinism. The more I think about it the more arrogant of a demand it becomes.

It just reminds me of troons insist on xir/xer pronouns or whatever they're using these days. Same energy: demanding respect and obedience where none is warranted.

 

[Jack Awful]

Then I'm going to start calling the bird turkiye too.

 

[byuu]

Why not just call the bird the way the Turks call it: Indian?

Problem solved.