Opinion Let Go of Your STEM Superiority Complex

The ever-present STEM versus Humanities and Liberal Arts debate makes for a less-than-memorable college experience for many. Although both STEM and non-STEM disciplines will prove essential in the workforce, STEM receives an exorbitant amount of funding.

The Biden-Harris administration recently dedicated a budget of $1.38 billion to STEM education in 2023. But considering that STEM made up only 23% of the United States labor force in 2019, disproportionate funding sends an inauspicious message about the perceived value of other occupations.

STEM has also historically excluded marginalized communities. The American Education Research Association observes that “STEM education and occupations were designed to attract White men who were heterosexual, able-bodied, Christian or atheist, and middle-class or above.”

A culture that values STEM above all other educational disciplines and occupations maintains institutional racism, perpetuates misogyny and devalues working-class labor.

Institutional Racism
Despite its reputation as objective, the roots of STEM lie in racism. Discriminatory standards and practices persist as we fight to dismantle the violent ideologies that remain printed in our textbooks. This isn’t to say that non-STEM fields aren’t racist — early philosophers like Aristotle famously supported slavery, saying the enslaved did “not have the intellectual capabilities to rule themselves.”

But these fields criticize and contradict the discriminatory beliefs of their figures. Fields like gender studies can recognize Betty Friedan for her impact on reproductive rights and “The Feminine Mystique,” while still criticizing her racism, homophobia and trans-exclusive radical feminism.

Art and writing serve as tools for racial equity as they praise those who challenge the status quo. Non-STEM fields aren’t given billions by the federal government or targeted for military use.

Holding STEM fields above others creates a culture of exclusion that keeps marginalized workers from accessing high-paying fields. The emphasis on academia and STEM creates a standard known as the Achievement Gap which creates, “an association between students of color and poor achievement, which may feed racist stereotypes about these students and their communities.”

The false implication that survival in STEM is based on intelligence ignores the impact of ethnic and racial discrimination in higher education. Weaponizing meritocracy against those who succeed in STEM, specifically the Model Minority Myth, not only harms the Asian American community but encourages discrimination towards other ethnic and racial minoritized groups. People of color, especially Black students in non-STEM fields, report lower degrees of discrimination, with Black women reporting higher levels of academic satisfaction.

When we place fields that maintain racism on a pedestal, we simultaneously allow the persistence of other forms of discrimination.

Perpetuating Misogyny
In 2019, females received around 62% of degrees awarded in Liberal Arts and Humanities. This data excludes trans experiences, but it establishes that women make up the majority of non-STEM majors.

When women do make it into STEM, they have to fight against misogyny. Still, women make up 34% of STEM occupations in the U.S. despite making up more than 46.7% of the workforce.. They remain undervalued in STEM.

By belittling the importance of non-STEM occupations, we belittle the significance of women’s education and labor. Labor isn’t limited to paid careers, with women carrying out more than two and a half times more unpaid domestic labor than men. The ambitions and labor of women are essential to the function of the U.S. economy and households. We harm ourselves by devaluing non-STEM fields and subsequently, devaluing women.

Devaluing Working-Class Labor
STEM occupations make up less than a fourth of the U.S. labor force while the jobs’ inflated values leave behind the working class. STEM fields provide some of the highest-paying jobs in the U.S. labor force. But working-class jobs, consisting of laborers without college degrees, barely make a living wage. Workers of color make up an increasing sector of the working class, specifically Black and Latine workers.

Devaluing working-class labor undermines the skills of workers and bars them from higher wages and better benefits. Working-class jobs don’t receive the same perks that STEM jobs do. While tech employees get free food and paid parental leave in addition to high salaries, working-class employees struggle against union-busting to access livable wages. And with the cost of college rising, it gets harder for the working class to get the education necessary to obtain STEM jobs and benefits.

My family and I have been working-class our entire lives, and this only recently changed. As someone with a STEM career, liberal arts connections and background in the working class myself, I’ve witnessed the effects of the STEM superiority complex of my tech peers. I urge everyone to recognize the worth of other fields. In order to make real progress, we must stop assuming the superiority of a discipline that actively contributes to systemic oppression.

 
Why is shit like this always written by a womyn?

You want to study something that has value and future? NOOO GO OTHER WAY

You want any kinds of standards? NOOOO EVERYONE IS WELCOME STANDARDS ARE BAD
 
I went to college over ten years ago and this is what I had to do. I went and got all old textbooks about the subjects and they taught more theory than I was learning and they math was better explained and filled out. Despite being half the size of my current texts they imparted way more knowledge and in a much clearer format.


Because that's exactly what diversity and inclusion produces - nothing. (That does sound like a cool project though.)

My Dad and I went to the same University about a quarter of a century apart and we both took statics. At some point he gave me his old textbook and out of curiosity I compared the two.

The only difference between his book and mine was that mine included some stuff in Metric. The verbiage, questions etc we’re 98% identical.

His was a third edition, mine was like the 12th.
 
You don’t need a degree to work in STEM.
When you think about it a lot of people would actually be better off doing unpaid internship to learn shit than paying out the ass and getting a degree for it only to find that half of what they paid to learn isn't even applicable to the field they're entering (and that's arguably a best case scenario given the prevalence of "diversity reqs" in curricula)
 
Is this the reason why China boasts of having more young people in the country receiving STEM degrees on a yearly basis, while Americans are floundering in student debt taking majors that do not pay well?


I‘ve read an article in an old science journal involving professors that have complained about having to teach Chinese grad students concepts that an American STEM major had to know off the top of their head by their second year as an undergrad. Don’t put any faith in a Chinese STEM graduate unless they’ve been to a Western college.
 
Don’t put any faith in a Chinese STEM graduate unless they’ve been to a Western college for their bachelors.
FTFY. Grad schools are degree mills nowadays and can’t be trusted to have actually imparted any knowledge. Too many of them see international students as easy money, and admit and graduate anyone they can find. The foreign students are more than willing to pay in order to gain access to the separate immigration queue for applicants with advanced degrees.
 
Most people with a Stem degree can't get a job in Stem.

Its a scam. Because students in STEM educational programs do low level research/work for people who make the actual money. Then they can't even get a job with Geek Squad
STEM produces dead end jobs like everything else. The only difference is that they are dead end jobs in the field they actually received degrees in.
Some Engineering programs these days try to make you graduate actually doing some kind of field work for your senior design to counter this exact issue.

The problem is mostly that a ton of STEM students just go to get a piece of paper. They don’t actually use the facilities of the college to hone their craft and become hirable. That’s right people, the core of the issue is that no one bothers to read the manual, they just think the magic paper will do the work for them.

EDIT: Found a second relevant post to quote.
 
I'll stop feeling superior about my STEM focus when LibArts people recognize/acknowledge that they took that path precisely because it lacked anything resembling intellectual or academic rigor.

Until then, go fuck yourself with a cactus and make sure that you get your student loan payment in on time, loser.
 
You don’t need a degree to work in STEM.
Or well a BS. I know several people with just an AS that had a successful career in IT or biotech.

I think these articles are just written by retards that couldn't be bothered to put in the effort to learn math or logic and of course that is someone else's fault. I was good at logic, but I had some kind of mental block about math. One day, I just was like, 'you know what, let's learn math'. I buckled down and for the first time in my life at like 30, I finally got it all the way to calculus on my own. I don't have a STEM job, but I am not buttmad about it like these morons are. I am 90% sure this article was written because the author got Cs and Ds in math in high school and then decided it was the patriarchy.
 
Meh, I’ve seen this attitude expressed for a while now. I got my undergrad and masters in engineering and around 2011 or so, from alumni organizations it has been nonstop blaring propaganda about how we need more niggers doing calculus n’ shit and why engineers shouldn’t feel superior to gender studies majors. I’ve seen it now for a decade. I don’t donate to any alumni organization and told them the reason why. They seem shocked that I’m not on board with the poz but triggeredly say “Well, sorry you feel that way” and hang up. Eventually they stopped calling lol.
 
Engineer friend of mine has noticed that our textbooks are getting worse, and they have been for some time. He has a great story about how he passed a tough class in the 90's because he dug up an older textbook that had the formulas for the in between bits that most formulas now just assume. We're in for some pretty bad times soon. Some dark ages shit is underway.
A few years ago I took one of my Dad's old college textbooks and one of my new textbooks, and opened them both up to a random page. It really illustrates the difference. Old textbooks are written to be read by someone trying to learn the subject. New textbooks are a grab bag of homework questions for professors to assign. They went from 90/10 content/questions to 90/10 questions/content.
 

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I went to college a little later in life, I was 28, and I was a few semesters in when goobergrape webt down. And the poz was pretty bad. I was on an engineering track at the time and about a third of my required credit hours had to go to "the humanities". And by humanities 90% of the available classes were lgbt/darkies/other non whites in historic/current day media with a smattering of traditional basic history and the obvious sociology stuff. There WAS the "dude, watch movies for credit hours" class. It was 8:30-10:30 pm, one guy was teaching it, at the outskirts of town campus, and you still had to register for it the femtosecond they made it available or you had literally no chance of getting in. I got to know one of administrators pretty well and she got me in. Prof. Started us off with the toxic avenger. Aced the class with a final comparing the "Jack Frost: the mutant killer snowman" movies as indie film products of their time.

Tangent aside, it was impossible to avoid having to take a poz class and it was every bit an ideological indoctrination ritual as you would imagine. As a post 25 year old white male I was the devil in that class. The subject of several struggle sessions, and I just had to bite the bullet and play along. Made me just hate commies with a passion.
 
I went to college a little later in life, I was 28, and I was a few semesters in when goobergrape webt down. And the poz was pretty bad. I was on an engineering track at the time and about a third of my required credit hours had to go to "the humanities". And by humanities 90% of the available classes were lgbt/darkies/other non whites in historic/current day media with a smattering of traditional basic history and the obvious sociology stuff. There WAS the "dude, watch movies for credit hours" class. It was 8:30-10:30 pm, one guy was teaching it, at the outskirts of town campus, and you still had to register for it the femtosecond they made it available or you had literally no chance of getting in. I got to know one of administrators pretty well and she got me in. Prof. Started us off with the toxic avenger. Aced the class with a final comparing the "Jack Frost: the mutant killer snowman" movies as indie film products of their time.

Tangent aside, it was impossible to avoid having to take a poz class and it was every bit an ideological indoctrination ritual as you would imagine. As a post 25 year old white male I was the devil in that class. The subject of several struggle sessions, and I just had to bite the bullet and play along. Made me just hate commies with a passion.
I got my undergrad in the late 00s and early 10s and saw the transition happen. They fortunately grandfathered in the non-engineering credits but it was a switch from a diversity of different subjects to social “sciences” and studies. Most of the electives basically started off with “Race and Gender issues in…” ranging from media to journalism to sports. Basically they demanded engineers participate in struggle sessions. I remember warning engineering graduates that the poz was already infecting STEM and they refused to believe it, thinking ABET accreditation or other things would prevent it from happening but nope, they found a way!
 
The problem is mostly that a ton of STEM students just go to get a piece of paper. They don’t actually use the facilities of the college to hone their craft and become hirable. That’s right people, the core of the issue is that no one bothers to read the manual, they just think the magic paper will do the work for them.
thats because the US education system is a joke.

normaly you have tons of lab days for a STEM degree.
 
I have to attend a meeting, but two quick points:

1) I'm almost certain a black woman could get a STEM degree for free at this point with all the scholarships they would throw at her, not to mention that she ticks TWO of the diversity quota checkboxes. It's just that black women don't WANT STEM degrees because they want to be "entrepeneurs" and sociologists. Which brings me to:

2) The black community is devastated with student loan debt right now, and the reason is because black women get useless degrees. I haven't read the full study yet, but apparently according to Georgetown, 40% of ALL people don't get any more money because of their degree than without it, so imagine what they percentage is for black women. Then all the black women have to vote Democrat and just HOPE that Biden will keep his word about forgiving the debt (he won't.)
 
hating being women is how women got into this mess
I think it was just women thinking working brought any happiness at all really. Status? About one in ten jobs. And when you make a woman think she has status, she will never settle for anything less or the equal amount of what she thinks she quantifies.
good thing college degrees sidestep this entirely, hahahaha
 
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