Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votos: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votos: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votos: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votos: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votos: 378 16.0%

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Update from the diplomatic front: Ukraine is pushing for a Sweden-like status for itself where it stays out of military blocs but gets to keep its army. The status of Crimea, Donbass, denazification and Russian language still hanging in the air. The diplomats complain the progress is slow and difficult.

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>Natalia Poklonskaya

>In February 2017, she led a campaign to block the release of the film Matilda for its allegedly blasphemous portrayal of the affair between Tsar Nicholas II (who has been canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church) and the ballerina Matilda Kshesinskaya.[92] In April, she released a 39-page report attempting to denounce the film and alleging, among other claims, that the historically evidenced and well-documented affair could not have happened as Kshesinskaya was, in the opinion of the report's authors, 'too ugly to have attracted the attention of the Tsar'.[93] On 30 November 2017, Poklonskaya returned an order obtained from the claimant to the headship of the Imperial Family of Russia, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, because the Grand Duchess had refused to support her efforts on outlawing the film, calling Poklonskaya's arguments "without any factual basis, but quite amusing".[94]

Poklonskaya is crazier than Putin, she's genuinely in love with Nicholas II and is so jealous of a ballerina born 150 years ago she tried to get a movie banned despite the head of the Romanov family openly mocking her for it.
Tradwife thought to be extinct, is found in the wild forests of Siberia!
 
Update from the diplomatic front: Ukraine is pushing for a Sweden-like status for itself where it stays out of military blocs but gets to keep its army. The status of Crimea, Donbass, denazification and Russian language still hanging in the air. The diplomats complain the progress is slow and difficult.

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The western MSM is saying the Russian is saying basically the same thing, so the chance it being true is 80%
Note, however, in negotiations like this the chance of it abruptly broke down for whatever reason is a non zero
 
Update from the diplomatic front: Ukraine is pushing for a Sweden-like status for itself where it stays out of military blocs but gets to keep its army. The status of Crimea, Donbass, denazification and Russian language still hanging in the air. The diplomats complain the progress is slow and difficult.

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I'm finding it hard to accept anything factual from Putin's personal spokesperson especially when earlier Russia claimed that Ukraine essentially told them to fuck off and refused any compromises.

EDIT: OK, so apparently multiple sources claimed it, so possibly true.
 
Kievan Rus adopted Orthodoxy in like 700 AD.
That's just straight up false, i don't know what else to tell you.
Your argument that the totally-always-culturally-homogenous European nations not caring about slavs because they existed before and will exist after slavic nations is retarded considering there isn't a single European country that has existed even relatively unchanged since whatever bullshit point on the timeline you want to point to. The Treaty of Verdun around the same time as Kievan Rus was adopting Orthodoxy and beginning to flourish just drew an arbitrary line through Europe and said "ok this part is West Francia and this part is East Francia" which essentially created what we now consider "France" and "Germany" but those countries are just as arbitrary as "Poland" and "Serbia" when you really get down to it.
This is literally just a "Well AHKHTHUALLY nations are a recent phenomenon" argument, and it's a poor one. The reality is i can take any point in Germany or France and draw a direct line between the people 3000 years ago and the people now and when i'm talking about a peoples, i'm talking about culture, language, history, yes even religious practices, there's a reason the Holidays have different manifestations in different cultures and have different significance even though they might share a religion.

You can't do that with slavic nations, you can pick any point in Poland, any point in Serbian and we see the same thing. We have a peoples X, we follow them, follow, follow follow...we have a disconnect and all of a sudden we have this completely different people that do not share any qualities, rites, beliefs or even symbols with the previous ones. Admittedly things are much more complicated in the Mediterranean because in the Mediterranean and Europe to a lesser extent, you have constantly over lapping empires that either tried to fully eliminate or fully integrate whoever was there before them but my point stands.

So while you can cry all you want about how arbitrary this and that is, in reality you're no better than people that say how much of a social construct sex or gender or social roles are. It's literally the same argument, just the subject is different. The reason you aren't a hairless ape throwing your shit at other hairless apes now is because of that lineage, of that history, shared or otherwise.

The bullshit about "not having a proper language, religion or culture" is just invented out of whole cloth as well. Countries in that period are always composed of smaller cities, villages, regions that all speak their own dialect, have their own cultures, and often have differing religions (or different flavors of the same pagan/polytheist views). That's even true to this day, in modern countries like, for example, France, Germany, etc.
This is true...in the Neolithic, in the early bronze age, really most of the bronze age actually. Not when the slavs moved into europe in the slavic migration or slavic expansion, whatever the fuck you want to call it. The earliest, EARLIEST plausible date people give for the Slavic expansion is 6th century, most put at 7th. This is way passed the hunter gather phase, this is way passed the early settlers phase, this is passed the polis, passed whatever league you want to pick, you had very, very, very well established peoples in that period.

To condense my previous comment, the only reason slavs lived somewhere, is because other people put them there for their own interest.

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I never made claims of cultural homogeneity or that European cultures are unchanged. Cultures change and evolve naturally, a static culture is a dead culture.
 
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Our timeline is a bit different from /pol/'s but we seem to be thoroughly into the "Ukraine is winning" hours.
Russia will probably end up beating Ukraine if NATO\EU doesn't get directly involved. But I don't see how Russia thinks it's going to pull itself out of this mess. If they beat Ukraine, I assume they will install a puppet government that recognizes Crimea and the Pro Russian regions as being sovereign Russian territory. But who in Ukraine is going to take that sitting down? Russia would have to continue their occupation of Ukraine for years making sure no one tries to over through their puppet and disarm the Ukrainian military with a new one. But I don't see even a single Ukrainian being supported of the puppet government and would just defect as soon as Russia leaves like what happened in Afghanistan. One top of all of that, the amount of shit their in with world leaves Russia in a particularly bad place with their economy and will only continue to get worse as no one would want to associate themselves with Russia for decades to come. What is even the win condition Putin has in his mind?
 
Zelensky is now begging le blackface man for help.
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As much as the media sucks him off, a decent leader could have gotten them out of this mess pretty easily before it even started. Either join NATO, Russia or just stay neutral. All three options would have prevented this had a leader competently made moves towards any of them.
 
I'm finding it hard to accept anything factual from Putin's personal spokesperson especially when earlier Russia claimed that Ukraine essentially told them to fuck off and refused any compromises.

EDIT: OK, so apparently multiple sources claimed it, so possibly true.
The only things I am sure of these days are:
-The sky is wood
-The pope is blue
-Soros is shit
-Bear cunts are Catholic

Oh look, more alcohol. (hic)

Pretty sure I got one these right, though.
 
As much as the media sucks him off, a decent leader could have gotten them out of this mess pretty easily before it even started. Either join NATO, Russia or just stay neutral. All three options would have prevented this had a leader competently made moves towards any of them.
That implies Zelensky is a leader instead of some other puppet.
 
Russia isn't doing evil shit to counter the US here. Russia invading Ukraine and bombing it to shit does more to strengthen the US-led order than literally anything else. Especially if Russia wins and conquers Ukraine, US MIC will suddenly be rolling in cash once more because China isn't biting on Taiwan and here Russia just went full retard and made every single Cold War pundit relevant again.
Same reason I didn't think there would be a war. The US has been doing its utmost to piss everyone off. All Russia is doing is making NATO relevant and torpedoing their economy. And they were THIS close to making Europe reliant on Russian gas and oil.
 
You're too much of a pussy to go fight your enemies that are on your doorstep when your government is handing out free weapons but you're gonna come across the world to fuck me up? Sure thing buddy.
Hey, while on the topic you, have you thought about going to help the Russians? They could use more 'dispensable' soldiers like you until they 'start trying'. Also your bomb-mutilated corpse would make good content, faggot.
 
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