💬 Off-Topic Louis Theroux's Forbidden America

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Glad to see the autism war I jumped in right away is still going on. Good shit.

This is an amazing conversation where the right meets the left & the left aren't just trying to eviscerate & strawman the right, it's very funny watching this argument unfold but also very strange.

Genuine free speech. It's pretty cool

That does not explain the last 50 years of pimp and gangster "culture".

White people are not the problem. Again, the origin of black slavery in America was not that white Americans took advantage of the sweet deals offered to them in the form of free labor. Black American descendants of slavery need to own up to the fact that African people conquered them. African people sold them into slavery. Black Americans problems began with other black people. They continue to originate from other black people and that is a pattern they have yet to recognize.

Historically I think most of this shit isn't either white or black peoples' faults. Race in general was a vague, inconsistent concept when African slavery really got going, and only solidified after the fact, partly due to policies made to segregate slaves of different ethnic groups politically. The reality is one of the regions with the least economic development, largely due to climate, but also culture and religion - Africa - was met by feudal but expanding empires that were just breaking through the limits of purely agrarian economies, and feudal dynamics mixed with the new possibilities of mercantile expansion made mass enslavement basically inevitable once they encountered African (and other) less developed populations. Blacks were victims not of white people then but of this general global dynamic that just sort of comes along with development patterns. So when they do have grievances toward whites, that's misplaced. Libcucks like milking those grievances for votes though.

All I've seen so far is people try and outline excuses for poor attitudes, which usually peaks in "but I just wannem to stay away from me". Which is fine, if people who believe this actually stayed to themselves. They don't. They shove their shit down other people's throats, they get angry at people who don't believe like them. This is all symptomatic of a lifestyle of lofty judgement. Of taking your own shit too seriously.

Tbf they would say that's because they can't be "left alone" since whatever Anglo country they live in enacts policies against their interests. I don't think that justifies violence, but some of them do.

yeah, but we cannot help on a screen, things like school shooters and any other kind of people like that normally need help from their parents, doctors and nearly everyone, we cannot give the good care they need to stop doing that shit. The only way we can do something is shaming the idiots who do it and letting potential idiots that they will be remembered as retards.

I do worry that any shaming about that violence only gets people more riled up, so that's not gonna stop the violence either. It's a hard problem

 

[murph]

It's a hard problem

It's really not that difficult. Niggers need to stop killing each other and blaming whitey for all their problems.

It really is that simple. Generational trauma is horseshit and they can thank colonialism for showing them what a wheel is.

As long as success is defined as "whiteness" or "colonialism" by grifters and vultures who live off racial conflict (including Louis "Savile Seemed Nice" Theroux), niggers are doomed.

 

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We're this close to having our guns taken away by people who will do that terrible, destructive thing because they want to protect their families. I wouldn't fault them. Nobody's taking the painstaking efforts that need to be taken to explain the complexity of this problem. The media, funded by the corporations that have already enslaved a vast majority of the american people, will never undo the knots that are being tied, it's up to us to spearhead truth into the darkness. And that's the real anti black sentiment people have, the real hatred comes from fear, fear of the unknown. That fear is hell on earth my friends.

Sad thing is, guns being taken away won't fix the problem. It's the equivalent of strict drug war laws - it cuts down smaller competition so bigger cartels with more influence and resources can clean up. Take away the guns, and the only people with them in inner cities will be the wealthiest cartel-connected gangs, who'll get more power than ever. Maybe there would be fewer school shooters, but people will fucking panic when the cities get even more dangerous. Then justifying even more invasive laws and restrictions.

I hear what you're saying though, hard to fault the people who sincerely think it's an answer, because nothing else is being done about it

 

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It's really not that difficult. Niggers need to stop killing each other and blaming whitey for all their problems.

It really is that simple. Generational trauma is horseshit and they can thank colonialism for showing them what a wheel is.

As long as success is defined as "whiteness" or "colonialism" by grifters and vultures who live off racial conflict, niggers are doomed.

The reason that's still a hard problem is you can't just tell a whole demographic to change their culture and expect it to work. Their attitudes are limited by the way they live, which is mostly poor and constantly surrounded by crime. If that doesn't change, they won't, no matter what you tell them. That's "culture" for you

 

[murph]

constantly surrounded by crime

No kidding. Who is committing that crime? Niggers, overwhelmingly.

I have a higher estimation of niggers than you do, I believe that niggers are human beings who are capable of changing their behavior. I don't think niggers need more nigger studies to figure out why niggers behave so niggerishly.

Maybe, just maybe, it's innate, and for the most part can't be changed.

If it can be changed, only niggers have the agency to change it. No bachelor's degree in bullshit is going to change a thing.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There's a lot of cases, atleast before the movie incel came out, incel became a really popular term for a moment, and everyone became aware of the phenomenon, where middle class, usually upper middle class kids get shoved in a dungeon of pleasure essentially and lock themselves away from the world. In that very common instance the internet, via glowing friends, becomes that person's circle. In anonymous places, (((people with a vested interest in America activating more terrorist laws, who simultaneously don't mind dead kids))) will drive those people to violence using terrorist talking points like "they're coming for you, you'll never have a family because of them, they want you and your loved ones raped, you should kill them and then kill yourself like an epic based poggers chad."

Before the middle class became aware of this problem, schools were being shot up every fucking week. So much so that South Park made an entire episode where the characters are nonchalantly dodging bullets. And white people sitting in their hovels writing this sort of shit think they have it hard compared to the mothers and children suffering through that nightmare? Or it's supposed to be some sort of epic joke where the epic jokers blows up the cringe hospital and walks away?

Nah, it's literally just useful idiots.

We're this close to having our guns taken away by people who will do that terrible, destructive thing because they want to protect their families. I wouldn't fault them. Nobody's taking the painstaking efforts that need to be taken to explain the complexity of this problem. The media, funded by the corporations that have already enslaved a vast majority of the american people, will never undo the knots that are being tied, it's up to us to spearhead truth into the darkness. And that's the real anti black sentiment people have, the real hatred comes from fear, fear of the unknown. That fear is hell on earth my friends.

You don't have to be afraid of the dark, you choose to be. We must reserve our strength and attention for that which requires it, not the infinite chaff.

This impassioned plea couldn't be further from the truth. People on this forum don't hate black people because of some irrational fear. They don't want to live beside people where they constantly have to be on guard.

It's just a tremendous drain on energy and resources. I was part of a dance group in my younger years and about half of that group was black. We couldn't pass a bicycle without them checking it was locked. We got tremendous amounts of state funding, performed at all of thr most beautiful theaters. Buildings from an age when they still built beautiful buildings. And there wasn't a building that they did not steal something from.

We also had a couple of muslims. Afghanistani, moroccan, persian. They did not steal something from each building. But if you talked politically, they had thoughts about how to destroy the netherlands and replace it eith something else. They did not really make friends outside of islam, only the makeshift friends of convenience. But they also did not form that strong bonds with each other, because their disparate backgrounds made them look at islam differently.

There is a reason amazon warehouses track the diversity levels of their warehouses and they have, behind thr scenes admitted it is to prevent unionization. A balkanized people can't stand together because they're too different and too easily divided. This is how european conquered and divided africa and central america. It's what they tried and failed in east asia. It's being employed in the west against european people.

Reading what you write, it sounds like you come from a mixed place; I'm guessing you're half white. You want the seed of mom and dad to stop fighting and unite against tyranny. It's been tried and it failed. It's too easily picked apart. Will a less united resistance succeed? Honestly unlikely. The enemy is too strong, too entrenched, too connected and too good at both strategy and propaganda. We really are royally fucked. We could probably resist if we all knew this. But everyone searing masks that don't work is all the proof you need who is winning this war.

In regards to guns, as it's the center of freedom for americans; the netherlands didn't have gun laws until the 70s. People could just be trusted to be responsible with them. Then a series of terrorist attacks from indonesian islanders, a couple of hostage situations of civilians, and the new laws that required gun ownership to be heavily regulated.

People know what a utopia white society really is, that's why everyone wants in. But they only get in if they keep playing this game of telling whitey he's an irrational racist. It's dishonest, it's self serving and it's rationally racist. Just as "I just want to be left alone" is, except it's honest.

 

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No kidding. Who is committing that crime? Niggers, overwhelmingly.

I have a higher estimation of niggers than you do, I believe that niggers are human beings who are capable of changing their behavior. I don't think niggers need more nigger studies to figure out why niggers behave so niggerishly.

Maybe, just maybe, it's innate, and for the most part can't be changed.

If it can be changed, only niggers have the agency to change it. No bachelor's degree in bullshit is going to change a thing.

But on a mass scale, what incentive do they have to just decide to change their behavior? Some can succeed and get out of there obviously, but while this deeply entrenched violent bullshit is still there, the majority are gonna do what they do. The majority of every population continues whatever attitudes and behaviors they're raised around. You can support people going into the ghetto and telling black kids to stay in school all you want, and it will help a handful, but most of any group will keep doing the shit they do until some major upheaval changes the way they live, by necessity. I'm not saying more or less welfare is a solution, I don't have any easy answer. I'm just saying something else has to change dramatically before a whole population's values will change

 

[murph]

But on a mass scale, what incentive do they have to just decide to change their behavior?

This is a bunch of vague bullshit. On a mass scale, the incentive has always been to stay alive, which is easy to do in America. You practically have to beg for permission to die.

I'm not saying more or less welfare is a solution

No welfare. That will thin the herd and get people to focus.

 

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This is a bunch of vague bullshit. On a mass scale, the incentive has always been to stay alive, which is easy to do in America. You practically have to beg for permission to die.

No welfare. That will thin the herd and get people to focus.

It's not vague. I'm saying that no matter what you think it's rational for people to do individually, the vast majority of people in any group will go with the herd. That's literally always been true. No amount of individuals doing shit differently is going to change that unless the whole direction of the herd changes, and that happens only when the whole herd is in different conditions. It's not some speculative shit, it's a statistical reality for all species that have social characteristics.

I don't think the answer could be in welfare either way. No welfare, more violent resentment. More welfare, more reason to stay in place. Increasing and decreasing dollars can't effect the underlying circumstances enough to make a whole population shift gears

 

[murph]

more violent resentment.

I wonder how much more violent the resentment can get. It will be interesting to watch because nigger resentment always gets taken out on other niggers.

There are patterns if you care to see them.

I know it's rude to keep saying nigger but as long as that word has power over niggers it's basically a form of magic.

 

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I wonder how much more violent the resentment can get. It will be interesting to watch because nigger resentment always gets taken out on other niggers.

There are patterns if you care to see them.

I know it's rude to keep saying nigger but as long as that word has power over niggers it's basically a form of magic.

No problem with saying nigger here lol. I'm just careful online these days.

That's definitely true, the resentment spreads horizontally more than anything. Probably because they live around each other. I can't imagine that leading anywhere. Like, it's not gonna kill them all, by any means, but it's also not gonna help them shift gears, socially. That's why I just think some other shit, probably not even anything we can think of in the current moment, has to happen for the patterns to change. Nobody can really control it.

Just like how feudal societies built up enough resources to expand and encounter and enslave other societies, whatever fixes this shit is gonna have to be on that level. The whole infrastructure of cities and how the people there live and move around it will have to change. Till then you just have to steer clear of the inevitable riots

 

[Lemmingwise]

No problem with saying nigger here lol. I'm just careful online these days.

That's definitely true, the resentment spreads horizontally more than anything. Probably because they live around each other. I can't imagine that leading anywhere. Like, it's not gonna kill them all, by any means, but it's also not gonna help them shift gears, socially. That's why I just think some other shit, probably not even anything we can think of in the current moment, has to happen for the patterns to change. Nobody can really control it.

Just like how feudal societies built up enough resources to expand and encounter and enslave other societies, whatever fixes this shit is gonna have to be on that level. The whole infrastructure of cities and how the people there live and move around it will have to change. Till then you just have to steer clear of the inevitable riots

Why don't they care more about the fact that they get killed by each other?

 

[murph]

No problem with saying nigger here lol. I'm just careful online these days.

Back to Theroux, his Scientology movie showed some of their techniques. Whatever descriptor you hate most, another Scientologist would just scream it at you repeatedly until it had no more effect on you. The culture of neurotic hypersensitivity to microaggressions is the opposite of that. I just wanted to say something slightly on topic. Who knows, Scientologists are also batshit.

Till then you just have to steer clear of the inevitable riots

I'll be in the white part of town, I'll be fine.

 

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Why don't they care more about the fact that they get killed by each other?

Mostly I think that's because they're all the same race when they do that, so they don't view it as a racial problem. They just view it as the shit the have to deal with because of where they are. Like, a white serial killer kills people, most of us don't see it as a problem with "white culture" or something. Some people do - some people see it as a result of degeneracy in white society. The vast majority of whites just see it as a sad thing that happens because some people are crazy

 

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Back to Theroux, his Scientology movie showed some of their techniques. Whatever descriptor you hate most, another Scientologist would just scream it at you repeatedly until it had no more effect on you. The culture of neurotic hypersensitivity to microaggressions is the opposite of that. I just wanted to say something slightly on topic. Who knows, Scientologists are also batshit.

Actually, you have to wonder how many of the progressive tards are dropping out of it as time goes on. It's entrenched enough in media that it's become their main way of climbing their ladders, but out of the huge chunk of people who participate in that shit online, I suspect a lot of them are going to be burnt out on that shit in a few years now that the Trump psychosis is outdated.
The scientologists were probably onto something with that

 

[Lemmingwise]

Mostly I think that's because they're all the same race when they do that, so they don't view it as a racial problem. They just view it as the shit the have to deal with because of where they are

Still. Why don't they care more? Why do they care more about racial problems than the most likely problem to kill them; each other? Why do they view it as the shit they have to deal with instead of the shit to be solved?

 

[DriveByTrolling]

So a manlet who lasts about 2 seconds under pressure of free speech before pissing his pants and having an autistic meltdown and another streaming grifter who lives in his moms basement are the revolution to worry about?

Whatever your views on.... anything, nearly all of these lolcows are just acting for money. It's that simple. Not much different than thots extracting money from orbiters, just a different target demographic.

The MSM constantly making out society is going to fall apart because of some lolcows are also grifting, clicks and ad money. Use fear to make you think some retard going around with a speaker strapped to his body is somehow going to stop the average person being able to live safely. Lunacy.

Some of Louis old content is genuinely entertaining, this is just pretty sad and will be used by some of the MSM to imply the end of the world is coming.

 

[Lemmingwise]

who lives in his moms basement

There is plenty of ammo against nick, but this one just doesn't really work as a putdown against someone who manages to get millions for his movement and have his bank accounts frozen.

I think that's the central flaw to people who throw around "grifting", as if we aren't all trying to somehow make money. Essentially everyone who isn't a corporate drone, or a lackey to our medical tyranny is a grifter. People who build things independently. I guess I still see a huge difference to the baked alaskas and fuentes of the world.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

This has to be one of the most autistic discussion for a shitty jewish documentary I have ever seen.
The only thing that can be learned from the documentary and this thread is that america is a shithole filled with all kinds of retards, extremists, wananbe do-gooders, progressives, deconstructionists fighting each other over who should degenerate their own society even further.
In the end doesn't matter because the US government and the (((elites))) always win.

 

[Wesley Willis]

"It's OK to be white" is officially the same as "acknowledge your privilege" now. Thanks for this.