US Biden’s false claim that the 2nd Amendment bans cannon ownership - “And I might add: The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

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The president offered this aside as he made a litany of his regular points about the need for background checks and what he says was the effectiveness of bans on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines that expired.

Parenthetical asides from a prepared text often trip up presidents, especially Biden. In this case, he repeated a claim — that Americans were prohibited from owning cannons — that has already been fact-checked as false when he made it during the presidential campaign.

The Facts​

The cannon element is what mostly interests us here, but we should also address Biden’s framing about the Second Amendment, which was part of the Bill of Rights adopted in 1791.

The meaning of the Second Amendment — “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” — has long been debated. But experts said Biden especially mischaracterized it.

“Everything in that statement is wrong,” said David Kopel, the research director and Second Amendment project director at the Independence Institute. After 1791, “there were no federal laws about the type of gun you could own, and no states limited the kind of gun you could own.” Not until the early 1800s were there any efforts to pass restrictions on carrying concealed weapons, he said.

“I think what he’s saying here is that the Second Amendment was never understood to guarantee everyone the right to own all types of weapons, which I believe is true,” said Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania. “As phrased, it sounds like the Second Amendment itself limited ownership, which is not true.”

Kopel noted that some states placed gun-ownership restrictions on Native American tribes, including orders to disarm them, but the tribes under the Constitution at the time were treated as the equivalent of foreign nations.

Interestingly, during the campaign, Biden had asserted that the cannon restrictions happened during the Revolutionary War. “From the very beginning you weren’t allowed to have certain weapons,” Biden told Wired magazine in May 2020. “You weren’t allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual.”

Historians at the time told PolitiFact there was no evidence this was the case. The Biden campaign could not point to any laws but seemed to suggest Biden’s point was more metaphorical than grounded in reality.

Now Biden has moved the cannon metaphor to some 20 years after the Revolutionary War — and it’s still wrong.

In fact, you do not have to look far in the Constitution to see that private individuals could own cannons. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 gives Congress the power to declare war. But there is another element of that clause that might seem strange to modern ears — Congress also had the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.”

What’s that? These were special waivers that allowed private individuals to act as pirates on behalf of the United States against countries engaged in war with it. The “letter of marque” allowed a warship to cross into another country’s territory to take a ship, while a “letter of reprisal” gave authorization to bring the ship back to the home port of the capturer.

Individuals who were given these waivers and owned warships obviously also obtained cannons for use in battle.

The White House did not provide an explanation of Biden’s comment.

The Pinocchio Test​

Some readers might think this is a relatively inconsequential flub. But we disagree. Every U.S. president has a responsibility to get American history correct, especially when he’s using a supposed history lesson in service of a political objective. The president’s push for more gun restrictions is an important part of his political platform, so he undercuts his cause when he cites faux facts.

Moreover, Biden has already been fact-checked on this claim — and it’s been deemed false. We have no idea where he conjured up this notion about a ban on cannon ownership in the early days of the Republic, but he needs to stop making this claim.

Four Pinocchios

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As far as this article is concerned, make canon ownership mandatory. Also, if anyone can point me towards a good American manufactured Kentucky rifle, hit me up.
i think Kentucky Rifles would have to be made to order since the cost might not be effective to produce. I think like a yearly promotion where they produce however many people pay for to make it viable. like if we raise 50,000 to cover the upfront cost, we can produce as many as pre orders as possible.
also, kentucky rifles dont count as firearms, so you could sell them in any state with no restrictions.
 
i think Kentucky Rifles would have to be made to order since the cost might not be effective to produce. I think like a yearly promotion where they produce however many people pay for to make it viable. like if we raise 50,000 to cover the upfront cost, we can produce as many as pre orders as possible.
also, kentucky rifles dont count as firearms, so you could sell them in any state with no restrictions.

Let's kickstart some Kentucky Rifles.

I saw some dude post a Youtube short about how he bought a billard canon just because Biden said that which made me laugh.

Flamethrowers are perfectly legal to own as well. Not just the lame ones Musk sold, either.
 
The Privateers of the American Revolution would have been very surprised.
 
Joe Biden is starting to sound like how my old father used to sound about why there needs to be gun control to stop criminals.

Yet for some reason, he can’t explain why NYC is harboring criminals that shoot and kill cops while either on duty or unarmed.

Either way, I’m waiting for the day when people keep using the “Just call a social worker” excuse when all the social workers out of nowhere move out of the Democrat, blue controlled states big cities.
 
I've often joked that the press would defend Adolf Hitler if he was a Democrat, but honestly it's a sigh of relief that they're finally calling this brain dead potato out on his obvious lies.

Of all the people they could have primaried they really did choose the worst one. Absolute, total failure on everything, and I'm not saying that just because I disagree with him on 2A.

If I was still a Democrat I'd be crying into my beer at the absolute stupid I'm witnessing.
I mean, I am because my country something something set right. The fact this coma patient represents us on the world stage gives me conniptions like you wouldn't believe, and yet the fully cognizant Veep is somehow worse!
 
I mean, I am because my country something something set right. The fact this coma patient represents us on the world stage gives me conniptions like you wouldn't believe, and yet the fully cognizant Veep is somehow worse!
Honestly, I'm at the point in my life where I just can't get angry anymore about political shit. I just shrug my shoulders in dismay most of the time, unless the prez tries to fuck with 1A or 2A but that's kinda expected especially post-9/11.
 
Poor Joey, can't stop talking shit. God help our poor country. Can't wait for November, can't wait to make 45 47, if you know what I mean.
Trump isn't any less retarded. He straight up refused to expand gun rights (while illegally ordering the ATF to curtail certain rights) and gave Israel a bunch of advanced equipment which they proceeded to sell to China. Trump is a fag.
 
Benjamin Franklin was well-known to have owned several cannons and lent them to the Militia during the Battle of Boston. The fact is, the Second Amendment was fully meant to ENFORCE the right of normal citizens (the militia) to be armed on par with any standing army to defend against foreign invaders and a tyrannical government from using the army against the citizenry. But why would anyone expect an anti-gun politician like Biden to actually research and understand the Framers meaning behind their writings?
 
The notion that the 2nd amendment restricted gun ownership from the very beginning is even more retarded than first glance if you take into account how the constitution was interpreted prior to the civil war.

It was meant to restrict what the feds could do, not override state law. The modern interpretation only came about after the 14th amendment made it unambiguous and it took a century of case law covering many different parts of the constitution and its applicability to state law for it to really stop being challenged.

Kind of ironic in a way, legislation designed to enfranchise niggers prevents states like NY and California from going full UK and banning butter knives.
 
Trump isn't any less retarded. He straight up refused to expand gun rights (while illegally ordering the ATF to curtail certain rights) and gave Israel a bunch of advanced equipment which they proceeded to sell to China. Trump is a fag.
While I agree, at least where I work our clients would pay their bills on time under Trump. They can't under Biden.

Maybe I need to bust out some cannons...
 
Trump isn't any less retarded. He straight up refused to expand gun rights (while illegally ordering the ATF to curtail certain rights) and gave Israel a bunch of advanced equipment which they proceeded to sell to China. Trump is a fag.
But he did make the trains run on time.
How the fuck did we allow the "election" of a man who doesn't even understand the foundational documents of our nation?
Leftists and illegal aliens.
 
Trump isn't any less retarded. He straight up refused to expand gun rights (while illegally ordering the ATF to curtail certain rights) and gave Israel a bunch of advanced equipment which they proceeded to sell to China. Trump is a fag.
Trump also wanted to criminalize burning flags. As much as I like the man, he can be pretty fucking stupid as well.
 
i think Kentucky Rifles would have to be made to order since the cost might not be effective to produce. I think like a yearly promotion where they produce however many people pay for to make it viable. like if we raise 50,000 to cover the upfront cost, we can produce as many as pre orders as possible.
also, kentucky rifles dont count as firearms, so you could sell them in any state with no restrictions.
A Colonial musket or rifle made in the old way would run about $20,000. This is why companies sell kits that you finish yourself.
 
A Colonial musket or rifle made in the old way would run about $20,000. This is why companies sell kits that you finish yourself.
Not even remotely true. Williams Flintlocks immediately comes to mind. They make handcrafted, in my opinion works of art, flintlocks that are identical to surviving examples. They generally go from $2000-5000. Even then, the only reason they are so expensive is because of the painstaking attention to detail.


Trump also wanted to criminalize burning flags. As much as I like the man, he can be pretty fucking stupid as well.
Trump is a scummy adulterer with absolutely no morals that very likely spent literal decades at Epstein Island raping small children. The only benefit to him over Joe is that he surrounded himself with people that didn't fist fuck the economy to death.
 
Not even remotely true. Williams Flintlocks immediately comes to mind. They make handcrafted, in my opinion works of art, flintlocks that are identical to surviving examples. They generally go from $2000-5000. Even then, the only reason they are so expensive is because of the painstaking attention to detail.



Trump is a scummy adulterer with absolutely no morals that very likely spent literal decades at Epstein Island raping small children. The only benefit to him over Joe is that he surrounded himself with people that didn't fist fuck the economy to death.
Wallace Gusler muskets go from $5,000 to $30,000 and are probably the best modern hand made muskets in the country. They're all smithed as they would have been in the 1700s.
 
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