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This question just started my brain spinning:

For a woman, or man, gay or straight, if they were alone on an island, you could still observe them and determine what they are based on appearance and behavior (let's say there's porn available). For a troon, what they look like doesn't indicate their gender, what they act like doesn't indicate their gender, what their genitals are (or and other biological marker) doesn't indicate their gender. The only thing that seems to confirm their gender exists is the act of someone else acknowledging it. Without that, their own definition states that their gender identity is unknowable externally. In a sense, it doesn't exist until they get someone else to say it does.

I'm tired and I'm not sure I'm making sense, but like, none of the groups they compare themselves to relies on this acknowledgment by others to confirm its existence.
So, it’s basically Schrödinger’s gender identity?:story:
 
"The right to gender and self expression should be added to the US Constitution in either a new amendment or to the first amendment.":

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(same user) And the right to castrate yourself. Still cis tho!: 😜

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There was a recent 4chan LGBT thread where the transcels were boasting about how superior they were to the cisbiofoids. They kept repeating that women haven't contributed anything in tech. You could just as easily turn that around on them. I can't think of a single troon who contributed anything significant in tech after trooning out, lmao. It's even more remarkable when you consider troons in tech are the peak of male privilege. Even the TIM who designed the ARM architecture did it a decade before trooning out.


I mean, that just reaffirms the fact that they are men. Same with the Jeopardy troon.
 
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Let's see how the sad old troons of r/translater are doing :c

Just your typical 48 year old woman with a combover :tomgirl:
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Is using awful mugshot ID photos for the before pic a trend or something?:

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Claims to be intersex 🙄 and that men lick their lips at him, lmao:

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He's also a veteran, surprise, surprise. Ex-military troons are an epidemic:

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Let's see how the sad old troons of r/translater are doing :c

EVERYBODY BETRAY ME
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Just your typical 48 year old woman with a combover :tomgirl:
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It's German for "The Bart, The."
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No filter 👀
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Just stuck, hollow and alone hollow and alone - and the fault is my own, and the fault is my own (:_(
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no one who speaks german could be an evil tran!
 
I'm sure you'll find questionable content on the computers of those fucks who are defending the teachers

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Someone should invite Queasy-Appointment52 here

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What makes me mad, is the obvious display of homonationalism (homophobia trumps racism and its ok to be racist in order to protect queer kids).

Person in the first comment is basically saying that because Hispanic communities are conservative, the teachers have a right to groom and brainwash the kids behind the parents back. Shit like this is why I don't trust white liberals.

nightmare fuel

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The face of psychosis
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What muscles?
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Imagine being the sort of disgusting coomer who tries to take sexy selfies while changing at work?
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😬 just gross
 
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So, there was this writer I liked back in the early 90s, Luc Sante. He wrote a book called Low Life: Lures and Snares of Old New York that was a cool history of the nasty old days on the Bowery a century or more ago. I was always interested since when I saw his byline- pretty good cultural writer, I loathe NYC hipsters but I didn't then, plus he was much older. Acceptable old hipster.

Now he's trooned out at 67 years of age in a splashy Vanity Fair article, it's Lucy Sante now and I'm struck by the speed in which his past has been semi-erased. It's very like "Eliot Page is a man. Elliot Page has always been a man." that wiped that Wikipedia entry and other sites super-quick. We have always been at war with Eastasia. Even his books have been reprinted as by "Lucy Sante".

And another striking thing, he writes that he was basically hypnotized by Faceapp images of himself as a woman to do this. It's the single primary driver of what led him to disrupt his life this way. He ran every single photo of himself he had to feminize himself on the Faceapp thing, the image of himself as a woman clearly took over his whole brain to the point of obsession. He writes of feeling tranny long before in his life, but Faceapp really seemed to shove him off the ledge. Was the internet a good idea really?
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So, there was this writer I liked back in the early 90s, Luc Sante. He wrote a book called Low Life: Lures and Snares of Old New York that was a cool history of the nasty old days on the Bowery a century or more ago. I was always interested since when I saw his byline- pretty good cultural writer, I loathe NYC hipsters but I didn't then, plus he was much older. Acceptable old hipster.

Now he's trooned out at 67 years of age in a splashy Vanity Fair article, it's Lucy Sante now and I'm struck by the speed in which his past has been semi-erased. It's very like "Eliot Page is a man. Elliot Page has always been a man." that wiped that Wikipedia entry and other sites super-quick. We have always been at war with Eastasia. Even his books have been reprinted as by "Lucy Sante".

And another striking thing, he writes that he was basically hypnotized by Faceapp images of himself as a woman to do this. It's the single primary driver of what led him to disrupt his life this way. He ran every single photo of himself he had to feminize himself on the Faceapp thing, the image of himself as a woman clearly took over his whole brain to the point of obsession. He writes of feeling tranny long before in his life, but Faceapp really seemed to shove him off the ledge. Was the internet a good idea really?
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Why do these looney toons always look back on some single moment of childhood androgyny like it was some holy rite of grave import? twisting your hair around your finger makes you a girl apparently.
 
Yeah but to be fair, if you want to learn to deal with something bothering you often the first step is naming everything you hate and feel bad about it. No matter how dumb, unfair, selfish or shortsighted those thoughts are. When you put it in words, more detail the better, it stops being just this bad messy lump of feelings that nags in a background. It's now a much more concrete problem that you have much easier time finding solutions for. Often saying it all aloud points out that what you have been worrying isn't the actual problem, it sounds so shallow and stupid when it's not just in your head. It was all a cover for your actual issues that you can see now more clearly and go on solving.

Funny you say that, because the way I became a TERF was just word-vomiting everything about this trans-stuff till I looked at my boyfriend and said: 'it's all just sexism, isn't it?'.

And then he looked me dead in the eye and said: 'finally you figured it out'. :biggrin:

Hey, pssst, hey, my dude. BREAKING DOWN MUSCLE TISSUE IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED. One of the most dangerous things to happen to postmenopausal women is hip fractures. While the medical complex likes to put this on osteoporosis, losing bone mass once your body isn't bearing children anymore, is actually a pretty normal and natural process. The real solution to this is strength training; it takes care of giving support to weakened bones (+ also improves working of the osteoblasts) and prevents fractures by giving a better sense of balance. The fact that these idiots want to actively work towards a very dangerous state that actual real biological women try their best to avoid, speaks volumes. But of course, no one here will expect these fuckers to care one iota for their health anymore.

“41D”

Bra band sizes move in increments of even numbers, my dude.

Also, is that inches? Because if so, damn.

Alan Turing was a troon? I thought he was only gay and that it was the fookin 'ell innit authorities that were basically force trooning him out because of homosexuality being illegal.

Of course he wasn't. And it really is a disgrace that not only was he bullied and defamed in real life, now they're co-opting him in death. This guy is one of the major reasons the nazis bit the dust. He deserves more honor than this.
 
Why do these looney toons always look back on some single moment of childhood androgyny like it was some holy rite of grave import? twisting your hair around your finger makes you a girl apparently.

The idea of being like everybody else and just sharing in a nearly universal human experience would mean that they aren't really better, more special or deserving of more attention than anybody else. And that sort of thinking is anathema to narcissists like them.
 
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Why do these looney toons always look back on some single moment of childhood androgyny like it was some holy rite of grave import? twisting your hair around your finger makes you a girl apparently.
It's to reinforce the "I've always been" part of trans arguments. Conflation of "Awakening" and Transition is a cheap trick used. It sets it as another case for TRAs to use in support of transing kids. At first glance, it's just lunacy, but the deeper effects and intents are much more devious.
 
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