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I completely understand the point of this thread is to mock trannies and not to vent legitimate criticism of actual transgenderism, but I do sometimes wonder whether there are Kiwis here who are legitimate ‘TERFS’ (God what a stupid word) or have a genuine hatred for transgender people in general and are actually transphobic like so much of the Tumblr community and other SJW would demonise us as? Is it true? Would anyone here genuinely admit to hating trans people and culture in general? And if so, Why and how do you defend yourself from possibly looking like a genuine bigoted asshole that many people stereotype people being as here?

Transgender people are statistically speaking, as well as in my personal experience, a danger to be around.

Being a literal transphobe is just good common sense.

Even if that wasn't the case, I find their co-opt ing of the experiences of the sex they aren't (yes, this also counts for TIFs) highly offensive.

What I don't really understand; why would you think I would care one bit of what you, a stranger on the internet, thinks about me? Maybe you should worry about what I think of you. And to be honest, judging by your post: it's nothing positive.
 
I object to your claim that most trans people are actually really reasonable and a few freaks are ruining the public's perception of them. I assume you think the same thing about furries? So Chris-chan isn't trans because he makes them look bad? (lol you called transexualism a fandom)

I find the “actually trans” distinction to be meaningless. The entire premise is that your gender is in your head and you can decide to change your body to fit your mind, but that’s a flawed premise. Men have male minds and women have female minds. If your body, brain, life experience and chemistry is one gender, you are that gender. Men cannot experience or comprehend what it is to be female, the same for TIFs trying to be male. To me there’s no real distinction between someone like Milo Stewart, who is just an idiot barely acting right to be considered trans, and someone high profile who keeps up appearances and does a very good impression of a woman. It's all pretend. I don’t feel vitriolic hatred for some tranny who “passes” well and never detransitions, which appears to be the only criteria for a “real trans”. If these basket cases just want to wear a wig to the grocery store, that's one thing. Demanding I play along with your fetish is another entirely. Trans rights has proven time and again to mean criminalizing the statement of objective reality, invading women's spaces, and targeting children. You will never find a troon anchored to reality, best you'll get is some simpering mental case looking for validation from people who object to their existence by saying they're the reasonable troon. Being unhappy with your body and life and how you are perceived is mental illness, plain and simple, and it usually is couched in lunacy and degeneracy of the highest order. Wanting to be a humiliated bimbo is objectively offensive and categorizes women as a sum of their parts that can be created wholesale with surgery and make believe. It's offensive.
 
Some tough, tough guy, very manly cope from the Eliots today

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The only people randomly misgendering men with long hair are dementia patients whose brains are 2/3 mush


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It's not as if chopping your tits off and sterilizing yourself is a big deal
Imagine the suicide rates if doctors started handing out SRSs like party favours.
 
I completely understand the point of this thread is to mock trannies and not to vent legitimate criticism of actual transgenderism, but I do sometimes wonder whether there are Kiwis here who are legitimate ‘TERFS’ (God what a stupid word) or have a genuine hatred for transgender people in general and are actually transphobic like so much of the Tumblr community and other SJW would demonise us as? Is it true? Would anyone here genuinely admit to hating trans people and culture in general? And if so, Why and how do you defend yourself from possibly looking like a genuine bigoted asshole that many people stereotype people being as here?

I guess I can be considered a "legitimate TERF," but I don't hate trans people.

I'm more frustrated by their self-centered lack of awareness and continuous appropriation of liberation rhetoric. Being uncomfortable is not the same as being oppressed and people don't owe you comfort.

I despise the trans movement because it's the same shit just with a different mask, but no. I don't hate trans people, as a group or as individuals. I always try to be civil and courteous to all, despite identity.

I just don't buy it and don't want it forced on me.
 
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I completely understand the point of this thread is to mock trannies and not to vent legitimate criticism of actual transgenderism, but I do sometimes wonder whether there are Kiwis here who are legitimate ‘TERFS’ (God what a stupid word) or have a genuine hatred for transgender people in general and are actually transphobic like so much of the Tumblr community and other SJW would demonise us as? Is it true? Would anyone here genuinely admit to hating trans people and culture in general? And if so, Why and how do you defend yourself from possibly looking like a genuine bigoted asshole that many people stereotype people being as here?
I don't hate anyone, but I am troubled by gross narcissists having the power to control governments and other organizations and have the world bend over backwards for them despite their insignificantly tiny population. I worry for my children who may grow up in a world where they're taught that if they don't lust over the opposite sex by 3rd grade or play with the right kind of toys they get pressured by their teachers into believing they're trans. I'm disgusted by a group of filthy men who couldn't hack it as 2/10's deciding they're women one day in the hopes of it increasing their chances of getting laid with women who feel more and more forced into the situation lest they be labeled bigots by friends and family.

Fuck these people. This thread is about mocking the disgusting internet transtrender and they deserve all the hate they get. They constantly spout that they just want to live their lives and then try to fuck with everyone else trying to do the same while playing the victim. REAL trans people are just normies and you probably would never know one if you met them because they are actually just people trying to do their own thing and I wish only the best for them, these lunatics want and NEED to be the center of the universe 24 hours a day 7 days a week and cannot stand anyone else getting attention. They're not good people, they're not even really transgender in 99% of cases, they're autistic coomer incels and I hope we peak on this shit soon because it's ridiculous.
 
I dont need to explain why pregnant people here is dumb, but I want to take the time to say to any women reading this: theres something wrong with this vaccine. I took the booster a month ago because I live around an immunocompromised relative and Ive been on my period since then. Ive gone through a shitton of pads and bled through as much clothes as a preteen experiencing her first period. Menstruation is the easiest window to a woman's fertility, so I would not be surprised if somehow this impacts women's fertility and there will be a lawsuit a few years from now. Dont give a fuck about what the news says, dont take that fucking vaccine while pregnant.
Stop being a conspiracy theorist. Just because the S protein producing Lipid Nanoparticles pool in the ovaries two days after injection is a coincidence. Why would cause it Endometriosis? Besides, only 40% of women with Endometriosis are sterile. Calm down. Don't be hysterical.

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Also, even if the vaccines induce periods, having a period while pregnant is no big deal.

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Lastly, companies that issue projects under a EUA are exempt from lawsuits. It's only fair.
 
Like I said I am neither, but I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople as that, this site tends to focus on the worst examples the movement has to offer, it’s the same with any fandom, they focus on the absolute worst people from that group that In reality only take up a minuscule proportion of the actual fandom as a whole. They aren’t representative of the community’s as a whole and In turn trick people’s opinions into thinking the whole culture is like that.

It’s a really hacky thing to do to blame a few freaks misdoings and behaviour on an entire group when it’s not the main majority that are like that. Makes them all collectively seem bad as a culture when really it’s just a couple of fringe douchebags that have taken power in abusing their sexual identity to become a deviant and make everyone know and suffer in the name of making some stupid political power statement that only has any meaning to them. I wish it would stop.
I don't hate gender non-conformity, and I have sympathy for gay people who are incorrectly convinced that transitioning is a good choice for them due to lacking support as children. Like I said, I think that the modern trans movement actually preys on effeminate gay boys and butch gay girls and convinces them to mutilate themselves as a justification for the ludicrous belief in gender identity. I am firmly convinced that "trans" children, if given support to explore non-gender conforming interests without declaring them "a girl inside", will not transition, and that the homosexual transsexualism would almost entirely disappear. I think, similarly, that addressing the insecurity young girls feel in their sexuality and relationship to boys would eliminate practically all FTM trans people. All the would be left would be the coomers.

That said, your comparison to fandom is sort of telling. In the same way furries defend the worst of their ranks with their sense of community, the same is true for trans people. Right now, fetishists like Yaniv can literally prey on little girls more or less unimpeded because the trans movement provides support and cover for these predators. I'm not about to go out on a trans killing spree, but I absolutely do hate the movement for the people it harbors and the behaviors it enables. If "real" trans people don't want to be associated with these degenerates, maybe don't defend their identities as legitimate. As it is, you go to the discussion of any trans offender anywhere on the internet, and there's guaranteed to be at least one person there super concerned about whether or not you're misgendering the rapist/serial killer.

Re: Andrea Long Chu. I like how nowhere in the article does it explain why the suicidal person/razor blade example is incorrect. It literally just says "yes, you would be violating the Hypocratic oath, but I want it, and being trans means that I get what I want". He seems to think that by just acknowledging the argument, he's countered it, but it just makes the choice to help on the doctor's part more crazy. The one logic I could accept for transitioning is that it counts as harm reduction when nothing else will work, but as Andrea showed, that argument leaves open the door to it not being the best solution in all cases. It leaves open the possibility that it is a mental illness, and that choosing to transition can cause regret. And facing that reality breaks the whole illusion apart. It's better to pretend that they can never be happy, then face the possibility that they are just a sad pervert.
 
As I said I’m not a Troon, I think most of them are batshit insane, ugly and morbidly corpulent and unfeminine as the rest of you do....
Like I said I am neither, but I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople as that, this site tends to focus on the worst examples the movement has to offer..
You have no idea what you think you moron. You can't even keep a consistent view from one 20 minutes to the next
 
I completely understand the point of this thread is to mock trannies and not to vent legitimate criticism of actual transgenderism, but I do sometimes wonder whether there are Kiwis here who are legitimate ‘TERFS’ (God what a stupid word) or have a genuine hatred for transgender people in general and are actually transphobic like so much of the Tumblr community and other SJW would demonise us as? Is it true? Would anyone here genuinely admit to hating trans people and culture in general? And if so, Why and how do you defend yourself from possibly looking like a genuine bigoted asshole that many people stereotype people being as here?
I can sympathise for people who genuinely have gender dysphoria and see HRT and SRS as last resorts, but a lot of the posts being submitted here glamourise the "experiences of becoming the opposite sex", which reeks of fetishisation and attention-whoring to me.

This might be better discussed in a thread like Feminism and the LGBT Community with Respect to Transgenderism?
 
I completely understand the point of this thread is to mock trannies and not to vent legitimate criticism of actual transgenderism, but I do sometimes wonder whether there are Kiwis here who are legitimate ‘TERFS’ (God what a stupid word) or have a genuine hatred for transgender people in general and are actually transphobic like so much of the Tumblr community and other SJW would demonise us as? Is it true? Would anyone here genuinely admit to hating trans people and culture in general? And if so, Why and how do you defend yourself from possibly looking like a genuine bigoted asshole that many people stereotype people being as here?
I will gas all trannies and tranny sympathizers.
 
I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople
I do not give one fuck about what you think is fair. As a mother with daughters I find it unfair that I need to worry about my daughters’ “sex-based” spaces being violated by pervert men in dresses.

You can kindly fuck right off
 
There really is something majorly horrifiying about how much transgenderism has exploded recently. I'm reminded of the story of the school where an entire classroom inherteted tourettes like tics for some reason and the common theory was that exposure at a certain age tricks the brain into replicating it and while some kids were clearly just making it up for shits and giggles, it can act as a catalyst for intrusive ideas like that to shape vulnerable kids.

I legit think the subconcious issues that come from trans kids in a classroom are spreading across kids like a viral disease. Call it incredibly autistic but if you implant a certain idea in kids brains you can manipulate them into believing that they came up with an idea themselves. By being unable to offer alternative viewpoints thanks to social pressure, doctors are essentially left with no other option but to encourage transitions.
 
Like I said I am neither, but I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople as that, this site tends to focus on the worst examples the movement has to offer, it’s the same with any fandom, they focus on the absolute worst people from that group that In reality only take up a minuscule proportion of the actual fandom as a whole. They aren’t representative of the community’s as a whole and In turn trick people’s opinions into thinking the whole culture is like that.

It’s a really hacky thing to do to blame a few freaks misdoings and behaviour on an entire group when it’s not the main majority that are like that. Makes them all collectively seem bad as a culture when really it’s just a couple of fringe douchebags that have taken power in abusing their sexual identity to become a deviant and make everyone know and suffer in the name of making some stupid political power statement that only has any meaning to them. I wish it would stop.

You're pretty naive to think what's posted here isn't representative of all trans people, lol. Lurk more in their communities and you'll see what's posted here is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
There really is something majorly horrifiying about how much transgenderism has exploded recently. I'm reminded of the story of the school where an entire classroom inherteted tourettes like tics for some reason and the common theory was that exposure at a certain age tricks the brain into replicating it and while some kids were clearly just making it up for shits and giggles, it can act as a catalyst for intrusive ideas like that to shape vulnerable kids.

I legit think the subconcious issues that come from trans kids in a classroom are spreading across kids like a viral disease. Call it incredibly autistic but if you implant a certain idea in kids brains you can manipulate them into believing that they came up with an idea themselves. By being unable to offer alternative viewpoints thanks to social pressure, doctors are essentially left with no other option but to encourage transitions.

When the trans lobby started telling kids that gender is based on internalizing stereotypes instead of whether they have a penis or vagina this shit was bound to happen.

I've been on the internet a long time and i never bought into trans ideology because whenever they were asked to address how they "knew" they were male/female it was always based on some stupid nonsense like "i never liked wearing dresses" or "my favorite color has always been pink" total fucking lunacy.
 
There really is something majorly horrifiying about how much transgenderism has exploded recently. I'm reminded of the story of the school where an entire classroom inherteted tourettes like tics for some reason and the common theory was that exposure at a certain age tricks the brain into replicating it and while some kids were clearly just making it up for shits and giggles, it can act as a catalyst for intrusive ideas like that to shape vulnerable kids.

I legit think the subconcious issues that come from trans kids in a classroom are spreading across kids like a viral disease. Call it incredibly autistic but if you implant a certain idea in kids brains you can manipulate them into believing that they came up with an idea themselves. By being unable to offer alternative viewpoints thanks to social pressure, doctors are essentially left with no other option but to encourage transitions.
I actually think of it like the satanic panics in the 80's, only more damaging. It's a narrative that is propped up in the media, that is essentially driving a psychosomatic reaction in people. Culturally bound syndromes are a thing, after all, and things like anorexia nervosa are almost entirely confined to western nations or places with heavy exposure to western media. People discount the degree to which ideas can fuck people up. Suicide contagion is a known effect of publicizing information on suicides, and famously Goethe is supposed to have triggered waves of suicides in young men when he published The Sorrows of Young Werther that glamorized killing yourself for love.

So what is happening is that the very marginal experience of some gay people (where a desire to become the opposite gender was fueled by a desire to be normal and not stigmatized) in previous years has served as a narrative basis for a fantasy (that you can be born into the wrong body) that is now inducing this distress and behavior in others. And at least part of this is that coming out as trans is being greeted with proclamations of bravery and love. Just looking at the reaction people are getting should explain at least partially what the attraction to depressed people is.
 
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Wachowski is a fucking AGP and Page is a traumatized lesbian looking for a placebo cure.
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This is a religious experience. Trans rites are not human rights. The world is not your stage and people don't have to validate you.
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I love how they also bring in Jazz Jennings as an example of how surgeries are beneficial. Poor boy is depressed, overweight, and constantly anxious. How is his life story the proof they need to validate the usefulness of trooning out children?
 
Like I said I am neither, but I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople as that, this site tends to focus on the worst examples the movement has to offer, it’s the same with any fandom, they focus on the absolute worst people from that group that In reality only take up a minuscule proportion of the actual fandom as a whole. They aren’t representative of the community’s as a whole and In turn trick people’s opinions into thinking the whole culture is like that.

It’s a really hacky thing to do to blame a few freaks misdoings and behaviour on an entire group when it’s not the main majority that are like that. Makes them all collectively seem bad as a culture when really it’s just a couple of fringe douchebags that have taken power in abusing their sexual identity to become a deviant and make everyone know and suffer in the name of making some stupid political power statement that only has any meaning to them. I wish it would stop.
Please, please show me one "normal" troon who doesn't make everything about their fetish or treat women like sex objects.
 
Like I said I am neither, but I think it is unfair perhaps to label all transpeople as that, this site tends to focus on the worst examples the movement has to offer, it’s the same with any fandom, they focus on the absolute worst people from that group that In reality only take up a minuscule proportion of the actual fandom as a whole. They aren’t representative of the community’s as a whole and In turn trick people’s opinions into thinking the whole culture is like that.

It’s a really hacky thing to do to blame a few freaks misdoings and behaviour on an entire group when it’s not the main majority that are like that. Makes them all collectively seem bad as a culture when really it’s just a couple of fringe douchebags that have taken power in abusing their sexual identity to become a deviant and make everyone know and suffer in the name of making some stupid political power statement that only has any meaning to them. I wish it would stop.
There is no "true" trans or "fake" trans. They're both batshit insane. Sure, maybe some trannies will throw other trannies other the bus for clout, but that doesn't make them better.

Look at Buck Angel. She proclaimed "I go by he/she" and once GC people started calling her by "she/her", Buck flipped her shit and started blocking people and reporting them, despite how she proclaimed she was ok by people calling her she. In fact, Buck is currently in a spat with the beloved TERF, Karen Davis. Buck also deludes herself that when men have sex with her, they're gay men, not bisexual men or degenerate men that will fuck whatever for money.

They proclaim they know they're still their biological sex, but when you confront them on this, they immediately go back into their delusion of "NO I'M A MAN/WOMAN!"

And sorry, but I refuse to accept any tranny, no matter how sensible they might appear, because despite them stating the reality, they still believe in their delusional fantasy. Also to note, they refuse to misgender anyone who claims they're trans, despite them stating "I don't think they're actually trans." Because if they can claim someone isn't trans, that same argument can be put back on them.
 
One weird aide to early Internet trooning I remember the David Reimer case being brought up as an argument for internalized gender. If you actually read the book what caused him so much anguish wasn’t that he preferred baseball over Barbie it was the pure body horror of forcing a male body to become feminine. This is now that the trans lobby is openly advocating for ie jazz…..
 
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