Yeah. But aside from that they still like the aesthetic and the things they like, they like the feminine nature of those actions because of being cute or endearing and they like the capacity of being yourself, charisma it's a general part, but there's different types of it that are attractive to others, which was the point which i tried to explain on my posts. if it was just charisma, some women wouldn't have a fixed liking to these types of men, the same for men, even more when they want jobs or interests related to that feminine nature, people in general want someone which can be a person in general, being passive on a relationship in general (the same with women) makes you a punching bag, which it's a reason a lot of men dislike the starfish type of woman (no real skills, no real interests, just a person which gives sterile sex, the only difference is that most men don't have standards and have sex with these types of women).You both are circling around it. It's not about being hot, or dressing or looking a certain way. People are drawn to charisma. A man who dresses or has "feminine" characteristics can still project masculinity. Look at 80's rockers. A man who is actually secure enough to dress however he wants without feeling like less of a man doesn't project femininity when women look at him. It's a signal that he is not easily influenced by others (i.e. a follower.)
More than anything women are disgusted by passive, weak men. It's why soy boys never get laid despite saying and doing all the "correct" things.
Soyboys are hated by everyone because they aren't people, but towels which can't give something, they are normally a facade to hide their real interests and lack of personality. That's the reason no one likes them.
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