Culture Lesbian gamers say Twitch is failing them - They’re tired of the many ways they’re harassed and undervalued on the streaming platform.

Input Magazine (Archive) - October 6, 2021
by, Jessica Lucas

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Back in May, when the streaming platform Twitch announced the release of more than 350 new “identity tags” that could be used to sort streams into distinctive categories, Jess Bolden was excited.

The 25-year-old FACEIT Games Esports analyst, who lives between France and Italy with her female partner, streams the game Rainbow Six Siege, a largely male-dominated pursuit. Bolden was once Samsung team head coach for the game, which she streams under the name JessGOAT.

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She figured she could use the new “lesbian” tag to show other lesbian gamers that her stream was a safe space for them. But, Bolden says, she felt conflicted. “I would look at the tag for that extra second, to question myself, and I’m usually confident in everything that I do,” Bolden says. “So there’s obviously a problem.”

Bolden’s hesitancy was justifiable. Twitch has been widely criticized for an ongoing scandal involving “hate raids'' aimed mostly at its BIPOC and LGBTQIA+ users. These attacks are carried out by bots programmed to spam streamers’ chats with offensive messages. The conditions became so bad that Twitch users started a campaign — #TwitchDoBetter — to push for change, and at one point arranged a digital “protest” where streamers boycotted the platform in solidarity with hate raid victims.

In response, Twitch last month filed a lawsuit against two users allegedly behind many hate raids and, more recently, introduced chat verification.

While hate against streamers is common, lesbians feel they are the subject of both sexism and a specific kind of sexualization. “We get multiple DMs, like ‘I could turn you straight’ or ‘You haven’t found the right guy,’” says Baeu, an 18-year-old lesbian streamer from Florida who broadcasts to followers under the name Spoink. Baeu is a member of Lilac Lesbians, a Minecraft Championship team hoping to increase lesbian representation in gaming. (Input is withholding the last names of most of the streamers in this piece out of concern for their safety.)

Many lesbian users have repeatedly been messaged by men determined to “change” or “fix” them.

“Even when I was underage, they’d still message me inappropriate stuff,” Baeu adds. “Twitch’s solution was pretty much: ‘Oh, well you have your messages open.’” She adds that multiple reports she’s submitted to the company about harassment have not resulted in any action against offending users.

The “lesbian” tag has only increased harassment, according to Bolden. “‘I hate gays’ is probably the most common [comment],” she says. “Or people complaining that I’m a lesbian.” All of the streamers interviewed agreed that they had seen abuse aimed specifically at lesbians, ranging from statements like “of course you’re a lesbian — you’re fat” to assertions that the lesbian streamers were “going to hell” because of their sexuality.

One user even had her chat spammed by bot accounts named after her recently deceased dog. On top of all this, many lesbian users, including Baeu, have repeatedly been messaged by men determined to “change” or “fix” them.

While Twitch didn’t directly answer many of the questions Input presented the company with, a spokesperson did offer this: “Harassment and hateful conduct of any kind are unacceptable and strictly prohibited in our Community Guidelines. We take steps to enforce against this type of behavior in all verified cases where it is reported to us.”

“I want Twitch to IP ban these accounts,” says Ash, a 36-year-old lesbian vtuber who uses an avatar to communicate with her followers. Like Baeu, Ash — who streams under the name FitnessToCosplay — feels abandoned by Twitch and angered by its inaction against bigoted trolls. IP bans — which allow someone’s whole device, rather than just their online accounts, to be banned through their unique IP address — would be far more effective in her eyes.

Twitch has rejected the efficacy of IP bans in its Combatting Targeted Attacks guide, claiming that the effectiveness of such bans is “limited” due to “bad actors” who are able to circumnavigate them.

Twitch will always tip-toe the line so it’s seen that they’re doing enough.”

“If they only ban one account, they come back,” Ash says. “They see us banning all these people, yet all they’re doing is suing them. They’re gaining money from this. And I bet we won't see one cent, even though we’re the ones suffering.”

Bolden, as a professional online gamer, is well-connected enough to have had anti-troll chatbots created for her. However, she recognizes this isn’t possible for many other streamers. “I have someone who is extraordinarily knowledgeable at coding to do the job that Twitch should’ve done to begin with,” she says. “I don’t know how [others would] stop a hate raid from happening, and I did information systems tech in the Army. I would probably just stop streaming if it was me.”

Twitch, Bolden says, needs to do more. “I think Twitch goes up to the line of what's expected, but will never cross it,” she says. “They will always tip-toe the line so it’s seen that they’re doing enough.”

Feeling ignored​

One way in which Twitch has attempted to do “enough” is through its Hateful Conduct and Harassment Policy. Introduced in December 2020, it was designed to protect BIPOC, LGBTQIA+, and women streamers — all of whom, Twitch acknowledged, receive frequent abuse on its platform. The policy came into effect in January and banned many words associated with hate on the platform.

Unfortunately for Twitch’s lesbian community, one of those words is “lesbian.” The community claims that the word is flagged as “sexual content” by automoderators on Twitch, while words like “gay” are not. Months ago, Twitch also auto-banned the word “sapphic” (a lesbian identifier) from the platform, although this has since been resolved.

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“Why is [the word ‘lesbian’] even a consideration for being banned?” asks Samantha, a 31-year-old lesbian streamer. Samantha is a member of Death 2 Divinity, an all-fat, all-queer Dungeons & Dragons live show, and streams under the name TheVerbalThing. “Somebody is using it to describe themselves and their community. Twitch needs to focus on actually listening to its members. It feels like the things being asked of them are frequently ignored.”

“We have community guidelines that set boundaries about what’s acceptable on Twitch, and that includes rules banning hateful content, language, and behaviors,” Twitch’s spokesperson tells Input. “We’re constantly working to improve upon the safeguards we have in place. We know we have more work to do, and we are deeply committed to this work.”

Creators are understandably angry. While Bolden isn’t going to stop streaming any time soon, she is frustrated about sharing her money with a company that doesn’t protect its users. “I'm mad that I give 50 percent of my freaking earnings to a company that just wants to toe the line,” she says.

Bolden is also frustrated about alleged inequality at the higher levels of Twitch streaming, which she believes has impacted her financially. Although Bolden feels that Twitch has “good intentions,” when it comes to celebrating its LGBTQIA+ and women users, she says it doesn’t seem to pay them as well.

“If I compare the amount of LGBTQIA+ and women streamers who have a 50-50 split with Twitch compared to the men, who probably have a 75-25 split with ad agreements — which I don’t have — we’re about to have a big fucking issue,” she says. “That's the double standard.”

“Once Pride is over, you don’t see [mention of] LGBTQIA+ streamers at all, let alone lesbians.”

Input was unable to verify these claims, as Twitch does not disclose information about creator financials. However, a recent leak of streamer payouts (confirmed to be authentic by Twitch) shows that Bolden, with 90,300 followers, earned $234,228.35 in 2019 from streaming 18.5 days of Rainbow Six Siege. Gotcha, a male Siege player with a far humbler 24,600 followers, earned $144,430.43 (over half of Bolden’s earnings) from streaming for 17.5 days.

Streamers like Baeu, Ash, and Samantha — none of whom make a living through Twitch — aren’t worried about money or financial agreements. They just want their community and its concerns to be acknowledged and heard outside of Pride Month.

“Once Pride is over, you don’t see [mention of] LGBTQIA+ streamers at all, let alone lesbians,” says Ash. “But we’re not seasonal! We’re lesbian all year round. It’d be nice to get some recognition.”
 
“If I compare the amount of LGBTQIA+ and women streamers who have a 50-50 split with Twitch compared to the men, who probably have a 75-25 split with ad agreements — which I don’t have — we’re about to have a big fucking issue,” she says. “That's the double standard.”
Translation: Streamers with a large audience can swing their dick around and fight for better margins because they bring tens of thousands of people to the platform to watch them. OTOH, these nobodies probably don't bring enough people to the fucking platform to even pay off the bandwidth they take up. Twitch should take 75%. Hell, they should charge them for taking up space.

You're not being treated unfairly - you're just not what people are looking for. A male-dominated hobby attracts men - shocker. Meanwhile, Twitch is constantly promoting/autoplaying LGBT+ streams on the front page of their website and it's evident that even with MILLIONS of potential viewers, only a tiny tiny tiny fraction gives enough of a shit to click through and follow - the rest immediately click off to their favorite streamer. Not because you're gay, fat, or whatever - because you're FUCKING BORING.
 
Notice how almost no "serious gamers", as in actual esports pros or world record setters even use Twitch, or would even identify with the stupid label "gamer" to begin with?

The majority of people who use Twitch are either whiny infants like DSP who suck at any "game" they play and are only able to even be successful on Twitch because of bored, ADHD idiots who are willing to spend hours out of pure boredom watching someone play games they suck at. Or camgirls who either don't want to do actual porn or want a broader audience than NFSW cam sites and just use the "game" (which of course, they suck at) as a gimmick to allow them to camwhore on the site.

Nothing but a bunch of losers and freaks who don't even care about the "game" but just want to to use "gamer" a shitty loser persona for lack of any meaningful self identity. Just like some faggot who self-identifies as a "metalhead" or something to feel special, but doesn't even know anything about basic music theory which could've been learned in high school.
 
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Here's a thought: if you need to broadcast the fact that you're gay to stand out in a crowd, you're probably not that special to begin with. I'd rather watch someone who's funny or entertaining, not someone who's going to lecture me about safe spaces and pronouns.
 
The main reason we avoid pissing off women is to get laid. If they're already lesbians anyway, who cares how they feel? (Also, I noticed the alphabet people are taking even more letters and symbols. Last time I checked it was just LGBTQ+. Is the + not enough to be all-inclusive? Why don't we just save some time and call them ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+#*?)
 
The main reason we avoid pissing off women is to get laid. If they're already lesbians anyway, who cares how they feel? (Also, I noticed the alphabet people are taking even more letters and symbols. Last time I checked it was just LGBTQ+. Is the + not enough to be all-inclusive? Why don't we just save some time and call them ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+#*?)
Basically the article is just histrionically whining about people on the site "receiving spam messages", and not factoring in what the rates and realistic likelihood of receiving spam are across the entire board, but solipsistically focusing on the minority of site users who "identify" as lesbian. The "problems" they mention aren't exclusive to Twitch either, but would be the same with Youtube or any social media site with accounts that have a lot of views or subscribers. I'm betting there are features such as disabling private messages from non-friended accounts that would help prevent it.

Also, the site is known for having a lot of camgirl accounts posing as "gamers"; so obviously it's going to attract a lot of audience who are just looking to get their rocks off - if I were them I'd just find another platform that doesn't allow camwhoring under the guise of "gaming" just because it brings in profits. (The picture at the top ironically shows a woman in a low-cut cami, which implies there's an intentionally sexualized element to videos, which is bound to bring in weirdos who leave creepy comments).

Not to mention just how stupid and stereotypical it is, a bunch of people who "identity" as "fat, lesbian or queer" into some stereotypically "geek" hobby like "Dungeons and Dragons" and fashion trends (bad tattoos, geeky glasses, horrible artificial hair color; I also bet you they identify as "wiccan, atheist", or something equally banal) like they're just cookie cutter character from a bad Cartoon Network show.
 
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"of course you’re a lesbian — you’re fat”

Not really helping their case with the all-fatties group leading the charge.
 
The main reason we avoid pissing off women is to get laid. If they're already lesbians anyway, who cares how they feel? (Also, I noticed the alphabet people are taking even more letters and symbols. Last time I checked it was just LGBTQ+. Is the + not enough to be all-inclusive? Why don't we just save some time and call them ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+#*?)
they pretend like pedos are not part of their degeneracy, so they get angery at adding P there
 
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